New 13-Inch MacBook Pro Announced With Magic Keyboard, 10th-Gen Processors, Up to 32GB RAM and 4TB SSD, and More

[Spectrum]

I need to replace my ancient 2010 MBP (yes, still runs... barely). My budget is $1500-1800. I do some light video/music editing and simple gaming. Mainly, I want this thing to last 6-7 years minimum. Which should I get?

MB Air 1.1 GHz Quad i5 (10th gen) - 16 GB Mem - 512 GB SSD ($1499)
MB Air 1.2 GHz Quad i7 (10th gen) - 16 GB Mem - 512 GB SSD ($1649)
13" MBP 1.4 GHz Quad Core i5 (8th gen) - 16 GB Mem - 512 GB SSD ($1599)
13" MBP 2.0 Ghz Quad Core i5 (10th gen) - 16 GB Mem - 512 GB SSD ($1799)

Overall, I'm sad this upgrade for the MBP didn't include an upgraded camera (720p... really?) and up it to 14". I'll have to buy something soon. So these 4 are what I'm looking at.

I know it is the most expensive option, but if you want this to last you ~10 years again, I'd strongly suggest:

13" MBP 2.0 Ghz Quad Core i5 (10th gen) - 16 GB Mem - 512 GB SSD ($1799).
My only concern is that you'll be stuck with the 512 SSD, whereas the SSD was upgradeable on the 2010 model you are replacing.

 

[russell_314]

Its more then that.. much improved CPU, iGPU, RAM, configs now come with double the storage and RAM as previous versions, Magic Keyboard, and the weight is 3.1 lbs so might indicate a change to the thermals like they did with the 16"

Improved storage options aren't an upgrade. Integrated graphics aren't even in the same realm as a dedicated GPU so an upgrade is meaningless to anyone who needs GPU performance

 

[IPPlanMan]

Apple’s solutions are customer designed and not simply Intel’s reference board crap. No one here seems to have a real love for Intel’s cellular modems, so the love for their Wi-fi chips is somewhat mystifying.

“May be” is the operative word here. Wi-Fi 6 may be ubiquitous or it may not. 802.11AC is so much better than 802.11G or 802.11N that I get the sense most people are happy enough with AC to not make it an issue outside of the tech obsessed crowd.

WiFi 6 is on the iPhone and iPad.... even the new iPhone SE at $399.

It makes absolutely no sense why Apple didn't include it in on the MacBook Pro.
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Still no wifi 6.... not in the market for a new laptop but this has me worried for the next imac.

Just lower your expectations and you won't be disappointed.

 

[Spungoflex]

The computer would be the same size with a 14” display. Smaller bezel. Where have you been?

The 16” is noticeably bigger than the 15”.

 

[Stella]

I don't care about wifi 6 because unless you have fiber it's irrelevant. What I was hoping for was a GPU and screen upgrade.

WIFI6: You'd still performance improvements on your internal network and therefore internet ( depending on your current speed ). At the moment, I get around 250 - 300 mbps using Wifi, but while on ethernet, around 900mbps up / down. So I'd welcome a machine with WIFI 6 + WIFI 6 Router for improved network speeds - both internal and external.

This is Apple, you shouldn't expect much regarding GPUs, especially in 13" machines.

 

[macduke]

So both the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro 13" have quad core CPUs? I was hoping to see at least six-core for the high-end config. Also where is the 14" display? Those two things would have pushed me to buy now.

The MacBook Pro looks outdated with those chunky bezels. They need to maximize the footprint and put a larger display in this thing along with a better camera because 720p isn't cutting it for a brand new computer that costs thousands of dollars in 2020. The only good things here are the increase in RAM, the old keyboard coming back, and the base storage going from an appalling 128GB to a sad 256GB. 512GB should be standard in 2020, some might even argue 1TB since SSDs are so inexpensive now. Personally I wouldn't order anything with less than 2TB.

 

[acolumb]

For after effects it´s not good enough, and the 16 inch has temperature problems...

Honestly, were you expecting to use After Effects on anything but a desktop? My custom i5-8gb ram GTX 750Ti system back in 2014 screamed at anything Adobe video related.

 

[oilers780]

Been waiting for this one. Does this mean the 2019s aren't on Apple's website anymore and have been discontinued or shifted to the refurb side?

 

[AnakinMac]

Still using 720p camera? So ridiculous. Especially in this day and age, when so many people rely on video conferencing... they go with way outdated tech.

I miss when Apple used to advertise how they had all the best tech in the box.

It's just not doable to put a 1080p camera with the space available at this point.

 

[smulji]

Disappointing, but expected. I had fully expected this 13" to be released in Jan/Feb and then a follow up with a all new 14" version October/Nov. Apple has a history of doing that. Was kinda hoping they moved up the 14" since nothing happened then, but with this getting pushed to May I'd bet the 14" will be pushed next year now.

Not necessarily. Last year, Apple spec-bumped the 15” MBP around the same time (May 2019) and in the Fall of the same year released the new 16” MBP replacement. The same could happen this year. So there’s still the possibility we will see a new 14” MBP this Fall with Tiger Lake CPU & mini-LED screen.

 

[Zdigital2015]

It's an upgrade but to me the "Pro" should at least have dedicated graphics. I remember when Apple decided to cut that out of the smaller MacBooks and I didn't like it then and don't like it now. If I was going to buy a 13" it would be the Air. If I wanted something with more power the 16" is the only option

The 13” MacBook Pro has NEVER had a dGPU. They have always done their best to equip them with the latest and greatest Iris GPUs, even as Intel has been so what lackluster in updating them. The GEN11 iGPU is fat and away much faster than the previous Gen.

 

[russell_314]

The 13” MacBook Pro has NEVER had a dGPU. They have always done their best to equip them with the latest and greatest Iris GPUs, even as Intel has been so what lackluster in updating them. The GEN11 iGPU is fat and away much faster than the previous Gen.

Umm you're wrong. Again saying an igpu is faster is like saying you put a weedeater engine on your bicycle while a GPU is a motorcycle

 

[thadoggfather]

one welcome change is the bump to 16gb of ram is only $100 now instead of $200

 

[ikir]

Don't be fooled.
The two entry-level models are still on 8th gen CPUs at the same prices; meaning you have to pay more now to get the 10th gen.

The base model with 2 Thunderbolt ports has been always different with less powerful CPU. Anyway they updated them anyway and they are quite good machines. All the four ports models has been updated with 10th gen.

 

[jmgregory1]

Lots of people posting as if Wi-Fi 5 routers all over the world are going to stop working or disappear and suddenly be replaced with Wi-Fi 6 ones. What is the obsession here?

It’s even crazier when you think about how many people are living with routers from 5-10 years ago and not thinking twice about what the new MBP DOESN’T have. Even for those running newish routers, if they don’t have a super high throughput connection to the web (or need fast wireless peer to peer sharing of ginormous files in an office or home), there is little reason to complain about the MBP not having a wifi6 modem.

People are stupid that way.

 

[Chompineer]

Now maybe it is not relevant. But if you pay 2k dollars you might want something more futureproof.
Rich people might be changing laptops every 2 years, but most of us who purchase a laptop for 5-7 years of use want
to be sure that their laptop will still be relevant in 5 years from now.

Wireless n devices are still relevant now.

Not sure why you think AX is that important. I have an AX router (Asus AX88U running Merlin). There is no tangible difference in performance vs AC.

Sure, in a benchmark it’s faster. But in real world use no.

You’re still heavily limited by the throughput of your other devices and your connection itself. I only have 600mbps service, and my NAS can only do 110mb/s anyways thanks to SATA limitations. Everything else I own is wired for lower latency and to keep things simple.

People find the goofiest stuff to whine about, seriously.

 

[russell_314]

I’m not saying this is a terrible computer. It’s just not up to what Apple could make it. If they made a real 13 inch MacBook Pro I would buy it in a heartbeat. If anything the one major upgrade is the keyboard is fixed

 

[Niklas_nick]

Feels like last year's 15-inch update which was end of may. Minor update making it a bit more desirable and improving price/value, but not much more, probably to clear out inventory before the 16"/14" bump ~end of the year.

I was hoping they would release a 14" this spring/summer, but that seems out of question now.

 

[magbarn]

The lack of discrete graphics on the 13 always has made it a nonstarter for me.

Check out the almost 50 page thread in the MacBook Pro forum about how well the discrete AMD GPU handles multi monitor (which includes when trying to use one 4K screen while built in screen is on) usage....

 

[DeepIn2U]

- 3733MHz LPDDR4X memory = sweet Jesus from a twisted sister THANK YOU APPLE Engineers!
- 10TH Gen Quad-Core i7 cpu's ...
- 256GB base (FINALLY)

For now I can wait until August if not much sooner.

 

[BeatCrazy]

Like with the Air before, these are probably special Ice Lake NG (rather than G) parts that haven't been announced yet.

The 2.3 GHz BTO option could be the 1068G7 (both the base and the turbo match), but none of the others fit an existing SKU. And the 1068G7 still isn't shipping, as far as we know. My guess is none of these are announced SKUs; rather, Apple got (just like with the Air) special-TDP parts that are somewhere in between the existing 15W and 28W ones. (edit) Except for those that are still 8th-gen CPUs, of course.

Bit of a shame that none of these are six cores (unlike Comet Lake-U), but OTOH, we get much better graphics. We'll see in the benchmarks what this actually means compared to the previous Coffee Lake-U parts — the memory controller is way up from LPDDR3-2133 to LPDDR4-3733, so despite the lower clock speeds, we could see some nice boosts there.

It's a bit strange how little the $300 premium over the Air buys you. Benchmarks could tell a different story there, but it seems to be slightly nicer display and speakers, a faster CPU and GPU, and the Touch Bar?

I am thinking the base model $1799 w/10-gen CPU is a (unannounced) Core i5-1066NG7. It can't have a 3 as the third digit, because it's a 28w (or 25w?) TDP, so it will use a 6 like today's 1068G7. But the 4th digit can't be a "5" (that is for <2.0 GHz base clocks) and it can't be a "7", because that's gonna be the 2.3GHz higher base BTO option.

 

[brinary001]

Whew! I was worried that buying my 16" last month may have been a mistake as the "new" 13-inch rumors really started picking up, and they were sounding really good... Things like super thin bezels and a 14" screen, 64gb RAM, six- and eight-core processors, etc. But nope lol

I would love the power of my 16" in a 13 or 14" form factor, but at the same time I hope they don't come out with that anytime soon because I'll want it too much haha

 

[Val-kyrie]

You were expecting 6 or 8 cores from a 13" MacBook Pro?

Why not? AMD has viable options. Just because Intel doesn't ....

I do wonder: Is Apple not going with AMD because AMD is ahead of where Apple will be when they introduce ARM? It is easy to make Intel look bad, but AMD ...?

 

[Zdigital2015]

Umm you're wrong. Again saying an igpu is faster is like saying you put a weedeater engine on your bicycle while a GPU is a motorcycle

Then tell me which Intel-based 13” MacBook Pro has ever had a discrete GPU? Go to the Mac Tracker app, it makes things easier. The NVIDIA 9400M and 320M weren’t dGPU solutions and after NVIDIA ditched chipsets, Apple was SOL. Sorry, you are in possession of incorrect information.

 

[Spectrum]

one welcome change is the bump to 16gb of ram is only $100 now instead of $200

Yes. Yet it is still $200 to go from 8GB to 16GB on the MBAir.