New 13-Inch MacBook Pro Announced With Magic Keyboard, 10th-Gen Processors, Up to 32GB RAM and 4TB SSD, and More

[flowderf]

I feel so sorry for guys who jumped on the 2016 thinking they were going to be future proof with their all USB-C laptops, they ended up with the bad keyboards models and USB-A is still the standard and USB-C is the niche. Thats what you get when you drink the Apple Kool-Aid I guess.

I have a 2016 13"MBP. Works great, never a problem. Just a counterpoint.

 

[citysnaps]

Yes. As Cook is settling in as the newly-minted CEO of App…

…wait, it's been nine years??

Even longer, considering Jobs was extremely ill for the last two years of his life and Cook was filling in.

 

[UltimaKilo]

Technically, this machine is a beast at the high end. So why not remove the bezels and offer an dGPU option?

 

[russell_314]

I’m still using my 2012 15 inch Retina MBP with scissor switch keyboard, quad core, 512 GB SSD, and 16 GB of RAM, a lot of ports, MagSafe, and no touchbar (preferred).

Amazing to see how far Apple has come in 8 years... /sarcasm

I don’t miss all the ports but I do miss MagSafe
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Technically, this machine is a beast at the high end. So why not remove the bezels and offer an dGPU option?

This is my dream. Maybe one day. The 16 inch MacBook Pro looks nice but I always liked the smaller one

 

[Ulfric]

Spec sheet raving is nice ... but when it comes to daily use and multiple use cases AMD is not quite there yet. Not everyone just wants to game or game 60% of their daily use on their laptop.

Furthermore the heat use of your 13"MBP would also be affected using a similarly spec'd AMD quad-core cpu. 14" not much better unless side vents like the 16" would be implemented.

So many things wrong in this statement, you better update yourself.

 

[cpnotebook80]

Macbook Pro 16” refresh coming with new 10th gen CPU and maybe wifi 6 coming this week, this is what is being reported on twitter

I figured they might since how can they let their big pro machine still sit with last gen cpu. Can't wait.

 

[mannyvel]

Nice to see the Mac line getting some love.

 

[bluespark]

This is just dissapointing.

- No wifi 6.
- No 14".
- No upgrade in the graphics department (still uses iris plus), is that a pro device for creators?
- Base model still uses intel 8th generation.
- Same bezzels
- 4 cores cpu

Worth the update? definetely not,
Who is going to buy this machine? People who were planning to buy the previous 2019 but wanted a bigger ssd and better keyboard.

This isn't a "worth the update"-type offering, though. This is for those holding out for the keyboard, and it represents a price drop for certain configurations. If you assume, as I do, that a new 14" MBP is coming out later this year or early next year, this seems like a good stop-gap measure for those who need it.

 

[Zdigital2015]

True, but Comet Lake-H only offers a minor bump over what you have. It'll be a while (this winter, if we're lucky, but probably longer) until new Intel CPUs in that thermal class become interesting again.

Wouldn't it be nice if Intel could some up with a 10nm+ CPU with all the niceties that we're wanting, that keeps reasonable temperatures, has a Xe iGPU...one can dream, I guess.

 

[macnmac]

Wouldn't it be nice if Intel could some up with a 10nm+ CPU with all the niceties that we're wanting, that keeps reasonable temperatures, has a Xe iGPU...one can dream, I guess.

lol intel...

 

[badlydrawnboy]

Can someone tell me what the likely benefits of an ARM processor would be? Would it enable specs/features that aren't possible with an Intel processor? I'm trying to determine whether to wait for the ARM model or go ahead and buy this and say goodbye to the Butterfly keyboard (good riddance!).

 

[llllllllll]

So why does Apple make a big deal about the iPhone and iPad having WiFi 6 then?

This has been explained five times in this thread alone.

 

[BeatCrazy]

It'd be cool if they did it the same way they did the first Intel Macs - do the whole presentation on a supposedly normal Macbook, then at the end, reveal it actually had an ARM processor, and no one noticed any difference.

I'm feeling it's inevitable at this point. At 2018 WWDC, they announced Project Marzipan, and in 2019 took it further with Project Catalyst. The basically have to announce macOS on ARM this time around

 

[Steve121178]

Why not? AMD has viable options. Just because Intel doesn't ....

I do wonder: Is Apple not going with AMD because AMD is ahead of where Apple will be when they introduce ARM? It is easy to make Intel look bad, but AMD ...?

Apple are releasing things in 2020 they designed and had in their roadmaps 2 years ago.

That’s how the industry works.

We might see mass market machines designed for AMD 4000 series and beyond in 12-24 months whe everyone’s got their act together.

For the foreseeable it’s Intel.

 

[Spectrum]

Amazing! For those that previously were paying the $200 upgrade costs for each of 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD, this is a massive price drop! PLUS you get a newer processor and a better keyboard!
Even the i7 upgrade is $100 cheaper than before.

 

[Zdigital2015]

That seems fairly nitpicky. You're technically right that the 9400M and 320M doubled as a chipset.

"NVIDIA ditched chipsets" is also… kind of a one-sided view of what happened. Intel refused to offer SKUs without their own chipset, really.

Both those chipsets also used part of the system DRAM (256MB for both) for video and did not have their own dedicated graphics memory.

 

[Kabeyun]

The silicon and ram is identical to the 2019. Where else are these benchmarks going to come from? No reason to obfuscate the obvious, just because it's Apple.

I'm not a 'benchmark junkie' either, fwiw, but its some indicator which is better than none.

Not obfuscating anything. Precisely the opposite, actually. Bad data is worse than no data. You didn’t even compare like processors. The 2020 MBA has available the same 10G quad core i7 CPU as the new MBP, yet you posted benchmarks for the i5 MBA. Useless comparison.

 

[thadoggfather]

Not obfuscating anything. Bad data is worse than no data. You didn’t even compare like processors. The 2020 MBA has available the same 10G quad core i7 CPU as the new MBP, yet you posted benchmarks for the i5 MBA. Useless comparison.

you're referring to the $1799+ models. that are 10th generation.

I am referring to the sub-$1799 models. that are 8th generation.

I'm not pulling any smoke and mirrors here.

 

[Razeus]

Wow. $1800 just to start with the 10th gen CPU? Ouch.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Technically, this machine is a beast at the high end. So why not remove the bezels and offer an dGPU option?

It would need a bigger battery, so the whole unit would need to be thicker to retain the same battery life. It would also need a place on the motherboard for the GPU and the VRAM along with heat pipes to cool it. as long as everyone is okay with that (including Apple), then sure.

 

[chucker23n1]

Wouldn't it be nice if Intel could some up with a 10nm+ CPU with all the niceties that we're wanting, that keeps reasonable temperatures, has a Xe iGPU...one can dream, I guess.

Ice Lake is a good, if overdue, start. (How is it that they announced it August 1st, and the top-of-the-line SKU still doesn't exist?)

We'll see if Tiger Lake actually ships in volume this year. If so, the next round of MacBooks Air and Pro could get quite exciting.

(Yes, I'm ignoring AMD and ARM here.)

Both those chipsets also used part of the system DRAM (256MB for both) for video and did not have their own dedicated graphics memory.

Yeah, good point.

(It's really confusing, because the 330M was quite different in that regard.)

 

[thadoggfather]

Pretty lame how all these media heads are spinning and covering for Apple

"Sooner than expected, Apple has announced a new 13-inch MacBook Pro with a Magic Keyboard. It features optional Intel 10th Gen processors and starts at $1,299"

Apple announces new 13-inch MacBook Pro with Magic Keyboard

All of Apple’s laptops now use better keyboards with scissor-switch mechanisms.

www.theverge.com

If they weren't in Apple's back pocket, they would be making the clear distinction we all are.

 

[Mr. Heckles]

You sound sad, please send your outdated laptop to the following address: (DM to follow) /s
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More like some POS used BMW diesel wagon on its last legs.

I paid less for a used Toyota that lasted 10 years.

 

[incoherent_1]

This is great for me. I did revolutionary last time when I bought the 13” MBP right after the new design, including terrible keyboard. I wanted exciting and cutting edge...

Now? I want boring. I want something that has a functional keyboard and spec bumps across the board for a fair price. I just want to get my work done. That’s what this is.

Someone else can wait and be a guinea pig for ARM or ultra-slim bezels or whatever they are cooking up next — I won’t be buying “cutting edge” from Apple when my livelihood depends on it.

 

[AustinIllini]

Catalina isnt what i would call a real OS

That's fair. It's a preview to Mac users what the most stable version of Windows 10 is like