Not as simple. It's 14% slower at single-core. It is, however, 44% faster at multi-core.
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Not as simple. It's 14% slower at single-core. It is, however, 44% faster at multi-core.
not sure how to respond except to say I am transparent in comparing the base 2020 MBP which has the same internals as 2019 and since we don't have the 2020 in hand and benchmarked using the same spec 2019 as reference, to the most popular 2020 Air configuration which is the i5 quad core.
i5 quad core 10th gen lower voltage Air against i5 quad core 8th gen higher voltage Pro. Near price parity too, if not a little cheaper on the air (i5 upgrade is +$100 from the base i3/8/256 making it $1099, or you could get the same i5 with 8/512 in a preconfigured for $1299) vs. $1299 for the base 2020 Pro.
If you don't like it, fine. But there has been no deception: I am comparing similar cores, i5, and prices.
i7 Air vs i7 Pro, at completely different price points, when its been repeatedly stated the i7 Air is mostly a waste of money and subject to throttling, is moving away from the main point that the 2020 Pro base models aren't that great.
As Zdigital2015 pointed out, when the 13-inch did have NVidia graphics, they even used shared memory, so there were never truly discrete graphics on a 13-inch MBP.
Hit the nail on the head. If I were buying a Mac laptop today, I would get that $1,799 13" MBP model.
The $1800 spec is pretty much perfect for my needs, 16GB RAM and a 512GB SSD. But rather disapointed all the same:
1. No 802.11ax (even although these Ice Lake chips have built in support for it).
2. No screen size bump to 14".
3. 720p Facetime camera in 2020 is shameful for the cost of these machines, especially when everyone and their dog is using Zoom/Teams/Facetime.
I assume the lack of 802.11ax is so they don't show up the inferior CPU's on the 16" model which are effectively a generation behind these ones.
1. No 802.11ax (even although these Ice Lake chips have built in support for it).
2. No screen size bump to 14".
3. 720p Facetime camera in 2020 is shameful for the cost of these machines, especially when everyone and their dog is using Zoom/Teams/Facetime.
I assume the lack of 802.11ax is so they don't show up the inferior CPU's on the 16" model which are effectively a generation behind these ones.
Just thinking the same, that $1799 model is the sweet spot for me. Really unimpressed by the base 13" models. I almost feel they shouldn't exist and instead leave the Air to take up that space.
Oh geez it's sad how many people try to defend this.
Whatever they are technically called they were far superior than Intel integrated graphics. Let me repeat that.
They were far superior than Intel integrated graphics.
Did you get the part about them being far superior to Intel integrated graphics? If not I can repeat it.
Mega massive failure by Apple. Has Tim Cook ever used a laptop before?
Does an equivalent GPU exist today? No, it couldn't, because Intel no longer lets you separately get a third-party chipset.
Therefore, this entire discussion is moot.
Put it at the bottom like Dell did!! People will love it...just ask Dell customers!
heh.
I think they'll need to implement pop out cameras that are raised from the bezel. The top lids are just too thin to accommodate anything decent. Not a Mac specific issue either.
Either that or some serious image processing voodoo. Or both.
I foresee a LOT of Core i7/16GB/1TB configurations.
$250CAN to go from 512GB on the $2349CAN (top selection) to 1TB .. yet it's $500CAN to go from 16:32GB RAM eek.
that speed is insane!
Anyone that points to the Dell XPS 13 9300(2020 model) ... keep that junk. I eyeballed it yet seeing the crap quality of that screen ... I'll stick with Apple.
It's not really one. it's a stopgap before actual new features are added. The keyboard is fixed so that's good, but this model should not have been necessary.Wow, you’re right. Not even Wi-Fi 6. What kind of a refresh is this?
You suspect incorrectly. Apple is not switching it’s entire lineup to ARM. Read - NOT HAPPENING. An ARM-based MacBook is what you’re getting next year. Not a MacBook Pro, not an iMac, not a Mac Mini... a small laptop with an ARM processor - maybe. After that - who knows?
Does the XPS 13 have a crap quality screen? Thought people said it looks like OLED its that nice. and insanely bright if you use your laptop outdoors a lot or in a bright light setting
It's possible this is the last notebook update before an ARM Mac is launch, but you're right, I can't see the pro models going to ARM before we get new notebook features on the MBP line.
How much better is the graphics speed on the quad-core MBA vs the lower end MBP now? Or is it better?