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New 13-Inch MacBook Pro Announced With Magic Keyboard, 10th-Gen Processors, Up to 32GB RAM and 4TB SSD, and More

I was seriously considering buying this MacBook Pro, especially when rumors were swirling that it would have a new 14-inch screen.

However, I am glad I bought the 16-inch version because of the bigger and better screen along with the great microphones and speakers.

It looks like they did the bare minimum with the new 13-inch refresh, this time around.
 
A little disappointed that they didn’t give us the 14” by shaving down some of the bezels, but at least they finally fixed the keyboard! I can finally upgrade my 2011 13” MacBook Pro!
 
Wow, super disappointed in this. Was excited to upgrade from my 2013 rMBP (ridiculous it has 8gb ram, 256 SSD + memory card reader, magsafe, same "new/updated" keyboard, and HDMI out from 7 yrs ago) if 14" etc. but guess I'll limp along until the next update as I have no real need to upgrade.
 
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Placed order for $1799 10th gen model and customized to i7 CPU and 1TB SSD. It was only later I realized there is a $1999 model that comes with a 1TB SSD. When that model is customized with the i7 CPU price is the same and otherwise they appear identical. Any reason to believe there is any difference between the $1799 and $1999 10th gen models other than base SSD size? Thanks.
 
Steve121178 said:
Apple are releasing things in 2020 they designed and had in their roadmaps 2 years ago.

That’s how the industry works.

We might see mass market machines designed for AMD 4000 series and beyond in 12-24 months whe everyone’s got their act together.

For the foreseeable it’s Intel.
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That’s nonsense. AMD runs cooler than Intel so thermal constraints are a non-issue.

Also, both Intel and AMD have roadmaps that they can present to all OEMs, including Apple. It is more likely that Apple is simply focused on its ARM transition—and has been since WWDC 2018. Moreover, AMD has insisted on working with OEMs to design their systems with Renoir—something Apple would likely be loathe to accommodate.
 
Davewithak said:
I just realized you have to spend $1,800 to get the 10th generation processor. Interesting choice considering the base MBA is a 10th gen i3, or for $100 more, a 10th gen i5.
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it’s $250CAN For an i5, so that’s more than $100 US by conversion.

That said:
Completely different CPUs in use thus different performance. 6MB L3 cache for the Air, 8MB on the 2020 Pro 13”. Also better thermals presumably for the Pro. 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports (Air) vs 4 on the mid/top Pro 13”.

if the Air suits you then go for it.
 

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Icaras said:
Wow, you’re right. Not even Wi-Fi 6. What kind of a refresh is this? o_O
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It's the small little things that Tim Cook refused to get it right.

I really wish Steve Jobs will be resurrected in 2021 for saving humanity from buying ancient technology through Apple.
 
DelayedGratificationGene said:
It’s so funny how the Apple bashing trolls are always the first comments in any article. They truly are trolling constantly and once anything comes up they do their thing and bash it immediately. Then gradually as you scroll down the trolls are replaced with the intelligent educated and super informed posts which everyone appreciates. So funny.
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Some might be trolls but others have legitimate disappointment in what Apple released. I love Apple products and my collection is only limited by my budget. You might even call me an Apple sheep sometimes but if I don't like something then I don't like it. This 13" MacBook Pro is a good computer. It's just not as good as it could be. This is a minor spec bump update so maybe next year will be the real update.
 
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cardsdoc said:
Placed order for $1799 10th gen model and customized to i7 CPU and 1TB SSD. It was only later I realized there is a $1999 model that comes with a 1TB SSD. When that model customized with the i7 CPU price is the same and otherwise they appear identical. Any reason to believe there is any difference between the $1799 and $1999 10th gen models other than base SSD size? Thanks.
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It's the same model, just with different configurations. You can pick either one and end up at the same place.
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russell_314 said:
Some might be trolls but others have legitimate disappointment in what Apple released. I love Apple products and my collection is only limited by my budget. You might even call me an Apple sheep sometimes but if I don't like something then I don't like it. This 13" MacBook Pro is a good computer. It's just not as good as it could be. This is a minor spec bump update so maybe next year will be the real update.
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Exactly what is the REAL update supposed to be?
 
cardsdoc said:
Placed order for $1799 10th gen model and customized to i7 CPU and 1TB SSD. It was only later I realized there is a $1999 model that comes with a 1TB SSD. When that model is customized with the i7 CPU price is the same and otherwise they appear identical. Any reason to believe there is any difference between the $1799 and $1999 10th gen models other than base SSD size? Thanks.
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No, it’s just that they offer that configuration as a “standard” model that presumably will be available in store once they re-open.
 
Ronlap said:
You put your palms on the screen? That's where the bezel is.
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The screen size dictates the overall footprint of the laptop. The aspect ratio apple uses (16:10 vs the more common 16:9) dictates the overall screen size. You shrink the bezels, you change the dimensions of the machine and will gain or lose palm space. The 16" gained it as the overall size increased, the 13" would likely loose it to maintain it's more compact form factor.

Or would you like a laptop who's screen hangs 1" past the keyboard when closed?
 
Any thoughts on 10th gen i5 vs i7 performance? My most intensive use would be a few CPU-hungry VST instruments (U-he) but in general would prefer cooler operation and longer battery life if the difference isn't that stark. i5??
 
Dontdothat317 said:
It depends on how badly you need an upgrade.

The situation you find yourself in is exactly why I do not buy entry or mid level configurations. Your 2017 configuration with 128gb of storage and 8gb RAM is severely limited compared even to my 6 year old 2013 13" retina MBP with 16GB of RAM and 512GB of storage running a 2.4ghz dual core i7. And that wasn't even the maximum storage space at the time. You have purchased two 1500$ laptops in the time I purchased a single 2300$ laptop with the added labor of having to migrate everything over. It depends on how you see value.

If the 14" form factor, Wifi 6 and full HD Facetime camera aren't important to you, today's upgrade with the 10th gen, 16 or 32GB of higher speed RAM and 4 TB ports is likely to prove reasonably future proof. I personally don't care about ARM processors, but if that's important to you then hold off.
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I absolutely agree: this was my first time doing so and have regretted it since. I'm running into memory/space problems of course, so my use has been a little more conservative than i'd like, but even still I think it's not worth this upgrade. We'll see what happens this fall (and hey, there may be some price cuts on today's release by then too).
 
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Damn - I was ready for this but wanted a 14" design like the 16". Now I wonder if it's worth this over the MacBook air. I want 16gb of ram...touchbar looks more annoying than useful to me. How much better would an entry level MacBook pro be over the Macbook air with the same ram?
 
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I’m really surprised at the pricing on these, I have absolutely no idea as to the point of the base 8th gen models, feels like the top end air covers this segment well enough. The base 10th gen model is about £200 too expensive and too close to the base 16” model in my opinion too. If they’d made it e rumoured 14” then it’d make more sense at those pricing levels but this feels like a weird stop gap to me.
 
Val-kyrie said:
That’s nonsense. AMD runs cooler than Intel so thermal constraints are a non-issue.

Also, both Intel and AMD have roadmaps that they can present to all OEMs, including Apple. It is more likely that Apple is simply focused on its ARM transition—and has been since WWDC 2018. Moreover, AMD has insisted on working with OEMs to design their systems with Renoir—something Apple would likely be loathe to accommodate.
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No. These machines were spec'd and tested 12-18 months prior. Intel deliberately dragged its feet with the Thunderbolt 3 royalty free of IP issues by two years. They announced May of 2017, but didn't officially make it available until May 2019. The only products Apple was able to get TB 3 and AMD on were the custom ASIC Vegas for the 2019 Mac Pro, as part of those on the GPGPUs. No other GPU in the market has Thunderbolt on it.

Intel is no longer king of the hill, nor will they be again. The roadmap on ZEN goes beyond ZEN 5 internally. Each generation keeps leap-frogging the prior generation. The X3D packaging designs for Zen 4 that AMD has patented to the hilt is something again Intel cannot match. Something ARM cannot come close to matching either.

Either Fall 2020 or Spring 2021 Apple reveals AMD based solutions, not ARM. iPadOS based ARM 2-in-1 is Apple's answer to people wishing for a Microsoft Surface solution. We got a taste with the new keyboard. They'll just keep driving that angle and extend the interoperability of side-car with macOS, not ARM for Macbook Pro.

Zen 4 will be 2022 for Apple, at the earliest with PCI-E 5.0. The rest of the Industry will see Zen 4 arrive late 2021.

Zen 3 and RDNA 2.0 arrives this September leaving no more doubt that Intel is whipped on the CPU and Nvidia is in a dead heat with GPUs once again.
 
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