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Totally agree with this. Apple has an absolute obsession of crippling its products to lower the bottom line.
As an AAPL shareholder, I appreciate their efforts in reducing costs where they deem prudent.

The MacBook is the entry-level notebook. The average user isn't really going to benefit from a 7200rpm drive (which runs hotter and uses more battery). If you really want a 7200rpm drive, go buy one and stick it in the computer.
 
I think I prefer not knowing... The only thing I want to know is WHEN, not the details.
Exactly, I mostly want to be surprised, but I also know that when there are leaks, we get twice the pissing and moaning and bitching. It's bad enough when there are no leaks the complaining starts the minute Steve keynotes about it, but now we get their lovely commentary BEFORE and AFTER the product ships! It's always about price and how the bump wasn't good enough. So sick of these complainers.

I just bought the new 15" Macbook Pro (2.66 GHz Intel Core i7) and yes, I paid a premium compared to other notebooks that have the same chip, but the Build quality and the OS that it runs make it worth it to me. They are both 2nd to none -- by a mile!

The complainers wouldn't complain so much if they would just figure out a way to make the laptop generate income for them. Then spending the extra money wouldn't be such a burden. Personally, I do design. My laptop was paid for with the job I built the website on it.

I have never personally seen an actual Mac user complain about the price of their hardware. They see it as an investment in their work and entertainment. I am of the opinion that people who do a lot of crowing around here are PC trolls just trying to stir the pot.
 
From the clock on the side of the MacBook box above it appears the white MacBook will still have a 7-hour battery. The difference in $200 comes from the battery, RAM, Firewire 800 port and SD Card slot.

And it's pretty clear there will be updates to the MBP line as well.
 
Is Apple planning to up the HD for the 13" MB Pro? I noticed that the "Tech Specs" for the MB Pros does not mention a 250GB drive, although that's the current drive on the low-end 13" MB Pro. Tech Specs only mention 320 or 500 GB drives with options for upgrades. Oversight?? Did the Tech Specs omit mention of the 250GB drive previously?

I'm looking at the 13-inch specs right now. It still says 250GB on it.
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs-13inch.html
 
Totally agree with this. Apple has an absolute obsession of crippling its products to lower the bottom line. Even when another $5-$10 would get you a 7200RPM drive.

Heh, that's pretty sad. Newer gen of processors, to be sure, but it's still C2D.

Echo that sentiment. The plastic seems a lot nicer to hold than the aluminum, and less sharp edges. Seems "softer", almost.

I agree across the board. It's time Apple stopped putting the 5400 rpm drives in their laptops, period. I would also like to see Apple put in the CURRENT top of the line HDD instead of the leftovers they have sitting in factories.

We are up to what . . . 750GB 2.5" 5.4k 9.5mm now? At least 640, so why the 500GB.

I will save my rants about C2D, but this is a Macbook none the less. Albeit a $999 entry level machine.

The sharpness of the new models is making it hard for me to upgrade. I have to use a 17" MBP at least 3 times a day and my wrists beg for a BT keyboard and mouse. The edges are ridiculously sharp.
 
There is no argument. You're just completely wrong.

The cost of heating and pressure moulding polycarbonate pellets in a precision mould is a lot cheaper than machining solid lumps of aluminium. Period. Get over it and move on.

Yay, someone else who posts something without any factual evidence that the 13-inch MBP costs more to make than the MacBook.
 
And does no one realize that aluminum is RECYCLABLE??? Isn't that the main point of Apple using aluminum, GLASS, mercury and arsenic free materials, LED LCD's, etc. is that there is less e-waste than using all plastic systems? Plus aluminum keeps the system cooler than plastic. I'm surprised that the recent choice in eco-conscious materials is lost on many in the tech world.

Apple uses plenty of glass in most of their products.

Plastic is also very recyclable.
 
Firewire

I still didn't see a Firewire port included. Did I miss something?

Apple couldn't be that dumb to repeat the same mistake, could they?
 
All these leaks are not good, they are starting to mess with the Apple brand. As a shareholder, little rumors and leaks are good buzz but outright theft is going to take all the steam out of the Stevenotes (and the usual 5% run up in stock price that accompanies them!). Plus I like getting all giddy like a kid in a candy store when Willy Wonka makes a new kind of candy...

Ok I'll be honest I'll take the giddiness over 5% in my share price. I'm that much of a fanboy.
 
I still didn't see a Firewire port included. Did I miss something?

Apple couldn't be that dumb to repeat the same mistake, could they?

It's not a mistake, it's market segmentation. They want pro features like FW to be on a kinda-Pro model :)
 
Heh, that's pretty sad. Newer gen of processors, to be sure, but it's still C2D.
I might be pushing back a new notebook until 2011. The recent repairs to my Macbook have made some major improvements with the new logic board and upper case. It's a quieter and cooler system now compared to the original 2007 board.

This year might just be a U2410 and a new video card.


Echo that sentiment. The plastic seems a lot nicer to hold than the aluminum, and less sharp edges. Seems "softer", almost.
I do enjoy the feel. In addition I keep running into aluminium models with vibration issues or they feel like a chalk board.

The complainers wouldn't complain so much if they would just figure out a way to make the laptop generate income for them.
*magic happens here*
 
I still didn't see a Firewire port included. Did I miss something?

Apple couldn't be that dumb to repeat the same mistake, could they?
The current shipping MacBook doesn't have a FireWire port. If you want FireWire, you need to buy a MacBook Pro. Apple considers FireWire to be a "pro" feature these days.

Remember, this is the company that removed FireWire compatibility from its consumer products a while ago, notably the iPods. FireWire simply isn't a consumer interface anymore.

Five years ago, there were video cameras that transferred data over FireWire, but over the past couple of years, everything has gone to USB. USB 2.0 is inferior technology to FireWire 400, but that's the way the consumer marketplace has evolved (or devolved, if you prefer to see it that way). Superior technology doesn't always win.
 
where the hell does this guy get all these stuff from lol?! :D:D

and what's apple gonna do now? steve jobs writing another letter to tell this dude to return those unreleased products? or ask that vietnamese site to remove the content (like apple "requested" mac rumours to remove the new serial number designations)..... . . . ?
 
There is no argument. You're just completely wrong.

The cost of heating and pressure moulding polycarbonate pellets in a precision mould is a lot cheaper than machining solid lumps of aluminium. Period. Get over it and move on.

It costs a lot more to buy plastic pipe than it does copper. I bet the raw material+manufacture of copper etc is a load higher than with ABS etc. I think the guy's point was that it's easy to assume a lot of things that seem logical enough, doesn't mean you're correct.
 
Maybe it's just me but I wish the guy would treat the stuff with a bit of respect, just tossing it about like he does gives me the urge to punch him out. I could just be having a bad day.
 
If it is so easy, why haven't any other maker copied it except Dell on the expensive Adamo?

PC makers didn't have any problems copying other things from Apple.

Low end PC costs $400 these days. If Dell or HP makes a unibody laptop and sell it for $500, it would be a huge hit.

exactly what I was thinking!! If it is not expensive to produce unibody laptops, why don't we see Dell/HP 500$ unibodies ? Are there Apple patents we don't know about?
 
Apple uses plenty of glass in most of their products.

Plastic is also very recyclable.

Glass is great, but recycling plastic uses much more energy and creates a large amount of pollution in the process. Also, not all plastics are alike and recyclable.
 
If you would have read the thread you would have known that the polycarbonite unibody is not just a piece of plastic that was melted then shipped off. The bottom piece is aluminum with a rubber coat which adds an extra process in production.

Either way, it's been talked about already on why it ISN'T more expensive for Apple to make the 13" aluminum MBP but believe what you want. I'm not going to repeat the same things that have been said in this thread five times over because you are too lazy to read through it.

You haven't given any any proof yourself all you've done is tried to piss people off. I've never seen someone just respond to every ***** person that they could find something to disagree about. Get off the computer, stop acting like you know everything. There has even been enough evidence brought against your ridiculous claims that I don't even feel the need to point out how wrong you are. just stop because you already lost.
 
It is interesting to see all of these releases of information. If the products were made in the USA and someone was on an NDA, then Apple would have significantly more actionable consequences against said individuals. Since the manufacturing takes place in countries that do not have the same laws for intellectual property as the USA, then Apple must deal with this.

Food for thought???
Apple probably has good leverage if they want: pull manufacturing from the company from which the MacBook was stolen; they may have a $$$ penalty in their manufacturing contracts where they know NDAs don't work. The manufacturer may pay a penalty to Apple for such leaks.
 
On the picture that I saw, they blacked out the serial number and part number, but the bar codes are still fully visible. Surely, those can be read, no?

So, Apple can find out exactly where this machine came from and from which batch.

There is probably some dishonest employee/crook working at one of those Asian factories assembling these machines who is leaking/selling this stuff for monetary gain. They should find out who that employee is and deliver their head on a platter and fed-ex it over to Cupertino. Apple seems to have a problem with security and leaks lately, it's time for some heads to roll.
 
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