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Cue the Back to the Future Song...

The MacBook from 2.5 years ago had a 2.4 GHz Core2Duo in it. Talk about standing still.

You fail to mention that 2.5 years ago that CPU was the top of the line model and now it's the entry level model.
 
Reality check: there's only one complete fool to an objective observer. There's an easy way to settle this. Show some posts you've written, with or without the relevant responses, and hide your name if necessary. Then ask, neutrally, "What impression do you get of the poster by reading these posts?" Ask around. You will find that your subjective appraisal of yourself is not shared by people who know "childish" when they see it.
Reality check: You are not God. There's an easy way to settle this. Show some posts with factual evidence in this thread. Then ask, neutrally, "Why is there no source of information for these claims" Ask around. You will find that your subjective appraisal of yourself is not shared by people who know "factual information" when they see it.

Plastic or aluminum, the materials are fairly cheap. Aluminum does cost a bit more than plastic, typically. But they're both pretty cheap, and Apple makes computers out of both. It is conceivable that they move one way or another in the future. Let's talk this way - what is the "cash value" of this "argument" you are having? It's basically nil. There is absolutely no cash value to your argument. None. Not in real cash value, and certainly not in intellectual value. All sides, but especially you, have said nothing of any tangible or intangible consequence.
Where is the cash value in this argument? It's called passing time until 9PM, maybe you should do a little research on it.

Go out to a local pub, ring some glasses to get everyone's attention, and then announce, "I just spent hours writing umpteen posts on an online forum who was just passing time until 9PM debating the relative manufacturing costs of aluminum and polycarbonate laptop shells!" And naturally, some guy at the bar will shout in response, "Loser!" And God would thus smile upon you being carried out of the tavern, and the men would eat, drink, and be merry again! Cheers!
Go out to a local pub, ring some glasses to get everyone's attention, and then announce, "I just spent my time criticizing and reading through 14 pages of someones posts on an online forum debating the relative manufacturing costs of aluminum and polycarbonate laptop shells!" And naturally, some guy at the bar will shout in response, "Loser!" And God would thus smile upon you being carried out of the tavern, and the men would eat, drink, and be merry again! Cheers!
 
Bring back the Black

Apple should bring back the black Macbook on the new unibody plastic casing.
 
I think apples military can take Vietnam, apple has so many nukes from all the outdated products. Once people recycle there old computer after getting a new one they become nukes. Also the iPods become gernades and the broken headphones either become assassination wire or are used in the nukes. The old airports serve as long range transmiters so apple can sit in there headquarters and just press a button and they have full control of the nuke from long range.and the gps from all the recycled first gen iPhones guides the nukes. So let's move on we talked about the iNuke, iNade, and the iWire. So next is the WTF ********* OMG IM BEING ATTAC............End Transmission:apple:

Funniest thing I have read all day! Thank you! :D
 
From the clock on the side of the MacBook box above it appears the white MacBook will still have a 7-hour battery. The difference in $200 comes from the battery, RAM, Firewire 800 port and SD Card slot.

And the backlit keyboard, and the glass in front of the screen.
 
I'd just like to add that I would trust a Chinese manufactured notebook more than an American manufactured one.

I am finding it dificult to think of one quality item from an American company (food stuffs not included) that is manufactured in the USA.
 
It is interesting to see all of these releases of information. If the products were made in the USA and someone was on an NDA, then Apple would have significantly more actionable consequences against said individuals. Since the manufacturing takes place in countries that do not have the same laws for intellectual property as the USA, then Apple must deal with this.

Food for thought???

So here's my food for thought. These are probably (best guess) made in China. This is a country who cannot stop people from the rampant butchering of young school children, let alone prevent a stray iPhone, MacBook or other product from getting out and into the hands of treasonous disclosers. Stopping this is simple: immediately cease manufacturing from the company who let this happen. And better, move the production of these products to a massive new Apple production center in the US. Keep the prices stable by training the assembly personnel themselves, offering lower-than-normal US wages. This will decrease unemployment rates, and allow Apple to institute an ultra-secure manufacturing environment. Oh...and wherever this plant is located, tell the local government that you want a law passed that mandates a 25 year prison sentence for anyone caught leaking confidential Apple information. Do I seem too extreme? You decide!
 
Great, now outside of the aluminum body, hardly a hair separates the 13" MB from the 13" MBP.

Come on, Apple, give your customers a 1440x900 antiglare option for the 13" MBP!
 
i'm guessing Apple is responsible for all the leaks, see it as a way of free advertising, they know very well that websites like "macrumors" etc exist and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that news like this will hit front page and have hundreds if not thousands of views, especially after the so called iphone "leak" drama. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple would start kicking up dust about this leak also, that way they might get some extra puplicity like on the david letterman show doing his usual lame jokes :rolleyes:

Annother thing is that Apples secrecy about upcoming release dates and specs is backfiring...the more you make people curious and the longer you let people wait on some "official" statements, the more people will go trough an effort to try and find out what all this secrecy is about. If Apple is not behind the leaking of its products than maybe all this should be a wake up call for Apple to maybe pay a bit more attention to the customers instead of letting them in the dark.

I can't help but feel that Apple is no longer this "wow" company....computer specs are kind of outdated, there's lots of complaints about the quality of the newer products and the prices in comp. to the specs are also ridiculous, a good example is the current mac pro system that is still prised the exact same as when it was released more that 1 year ago...it has a 60$ graphics card:D yet its called a "Pro" machine....same goes for mbp...the only thing pro about it is the fact that they named it pro...specs are pretty basic for a 2010 computer if you ask me.
 
Smells like . . . victory.



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As stated earlier by someone not so wise,

"i can see Apple invading Vietnam after all these leaks"

seems like a typical American response, however Apple should be aware that their gonna get their ass kicked like the American army did in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s.:cool:


Not to go off topic, but the US defeat in Vietnam was a political one (one of many ways to lose a war) not a military one. Just going by military objectives they were pretty successful.

Reading lots of posts of people against brining manufacturing to the US. I can only assume (and hope) they are made by non-Americans. As they would have nothing to gain but possible slightly higher prices, but if you're an American how can you possibly be against something that brings jobs here? More people making money increases the living standards of everyone around.

Too many people just want everything cheap and only get concerned when it's their job that has been outsourced.
 
You fail to mention that 2.5 years ago that CPU was the top of the line model and now it's the entry level model.

That might be the case, but I remember buying a white MacBook in 2006 with C2D - mid-range one with 2 GHz. Almost four years ago, for around the same price what Apple charges for the current version. By the way, the UK site still has the 2.26GHz MB for £814. Hasn't technology moved on? 10% hike, same processor, almost 4 years?! I just cannot believe it.

I agree that Apple got incredibly lazy with their updates. I have two unibodies now, a 15" and a 13", both with C2D. I am so embarrassed to have paid so much for them - they are just computers. Some people take home less after a month work, I imagine. That is just immoral. Computers should be cheaper and it's not a recession-talk.
 
Fake.

I believe this is just the old Macbook with a sticker on the box quoting new specs.

Lets see it fired up with the new info in "About this Mac"

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If you produce in countries, where the workers get $30 a month, they do not have much lose, I suppose...!
 
Not to go off topic, but the US defeat in Vietnam was a political one (one of many ways to lose a war) not a military one. Just going by military objectives they were pretty successful.

Reading lots of posts of people against brining manufacturing to the US. I can only assume (and hope) they are made by non-Americans. As they would have nothing to gain but possible slightly higher prices, but if you're an American how can you possibly be against something that brings jobs here? More people making money increases the living standards of everyone around.

Too many people just want everything cheap and only get concerned when it's their job that has been outsourced.

Clearly this guy doesn't understand basic business fundamentals. The best scenario is to have skilled labor in the US (design, engineering, R&D, executives, administrative, etc), and then outsource the unskilled (like manufacturing) outside the US. This keeps costs down but allows the company to increase in profit. Do you want to work for $5 a day or do you want your AAPL stock to be worth something? You can't have it all. The old morons who say "bring the jobs back to the US" won't work for minimum wage, they'd expect a union workforce and then the $1500 macbook becomes $3500... would they pay it? No. The reason manufacturing has gone to China is because there people are lined up to work for $5 a day. American's expect to have life handed to them (just subscribe to Obama's Facebook page and read the posts from the southern US)... This country will continue to need to outsource manufacturing because the lazy portion of our population has forced us to do so. Bummer....
 
I'd just like to add that I would trust a Chinese manufactured notebook more than an American manufactured one.

I am finding it dificult to think of one quality item from an American company (food stuffs not included) that is manufactured in the USA.

Spot on. And I LOVE your "The phrase is 'couldn't care less FFS!!!' comment. Americans love to imitate rather than think for themselves and it's nice to see someone else who is driven insane by people misusing expressions because they copy others rather than actually thinking about what they're saying prior to opening their piehole.
 
I kind of like the white ones better. My MBP is boring... The aluminum it gets old fast! Thats why I have bought like 15 plastic cases for it. If it does get updated then I probably will buy this.
 
Not to go off topic, but the US defeat in Vietnam was a political one (one of many ways to lose a war) not a military one. Just going by military objectives they were pretty successful.

Reading lots of posts of people against brining manufacturing to the US. I can only assume (and hope) they are made by non-Americans. As they would have nothing to gain but possible slightly higher prices, but if you're an American how can you possibly be against something that brings jobs here? More people making money increases the living standards of everyone around.

Too many people just want everything cheap and only get concerned when it's their job that has been outsourced.

1. A bunch of crippled soldiers beg to disagree about your point on military victory.

2. Manufacturing in the US would not necessarily mean higher prices. There is such a high profit margin on the current Apple range that they could make the 'Made in USA' thing happen, if that really meant a lot to Apple Inc. It seems, it doesn't.

Actually, the US can manufacture very cheaply. Many civil libertarians argued against prison conditions in the US and prisoners being used as cheap labourers, making the US fairly competitive in international arms trade, for example. Add good old protectionism to that from tyres to electronics; unfair domestic subsidies from cotton to rice; and you have no real issues with manufacturing $1000+ computers in the US. In fact, I'm sure that we are not far away from some companies assembling their gadgets/equipment in the US after leaving China for good.

3. But it wouldn't increase the living standards for everybody. Not for Steve Jobs and Apple shareholders, whose interest lies in having low manufacturing cost. Some put it rather arrogantly that a MacBook manufactured in the US would cost multiple times its current price. That is not just speculation, but a rather absurd assumption. My late-2008 15" MBP was around £1800. I'm fairly confident that this cost would be able to accommodate your average Joe's labour cost for a couple of hours. We are not talking about hand-making the processor. I wouldn't have paid more for that computer, even if Margaret Thatcher was sweating blood making it, while breast-feeding Steve Jobs himself.
 
I agree that Apple got incredibly lazy with their updates. I have two unibodies now, a 15" and a 13", both with C2D. I am so embarrassed to have paid so much for them - they are just computers. Some people take home less after a month work, I imagine. That is just immoral. Computers should be cheaper and it's not a recession-talk.

Quite the contrary. Apple got screwed by Intel on these updates. The reason for the C2D instead of the Core i3 is that Intel doesn't allow nVidia to make a chipset for the new processors. As such Apple had a choice, Core i3 with Intel graphics or C2D with a new nVidia GPU.

The second option (the one they chose) offered better graphics performance in the end.

This was the subject of many thousand post threads where it was all explained. Do we have to go through all that again ?
 
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