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New 13-inch MacBook to be Bumped to 2.4GHz, NVIDIA 320M
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my intentions are not to install fear or terrorize. But you have been on my ignore list ever since you were banned last time you came around with your rude and insulting tone. I will give you some credit now though, I truly do not believe you are this hard headed or unintelligent, you seem to argue just for the sake of arguing. It should be obvious to anyone that since aluminum is intrensicly stronger than plastic, it will therefore be more valuable, which means regardless of the machining time versus molding, aluminum is the more expensive material.
And from your very poor attitude, I am surprised anyone would read your posts. Chill out, debate, at the same time try to be considerate of others.
I'm not going to troll back through the thread, but are you seriously arguing about this?
My logic says that you're making a faulty correlation between strength of a material and its value/cost, but my common sense says that anyone arguing about laptop construction material value needs to step away from the computer.
1. The US fundamentally is still a low-tax, liberal economy. When you mention other countries, you might forget about Europe. Although, I currently live in the UK, where - despite all the moaning - taxes are still lower than EU average, I remember the high costs of doing business on the continent. In some countries, you pay as much as 170 unit from which the employee gets 100, before tax and 55 after. Welcome to the strange world of European business and red tape... But having said that, there are products, where the premium is worth it. I'd rather buy cars made in Europe than anywhere else in the world. The same applies to luxury goods. Chinese and Americans don't always understand customers over here.
2. I suppose, no company currently gets any tax break for hiring "illegals", right?
3. You can do all magic tricks, the US had been one of the largest borrowers in the last several decades and it will remain that way. In order to pay off all US public debt in the foreseeable future, you would have to wreck the nation for generations. There is worse than debt - not having money at all.
My my my. The traditional, "you think you're better than me, you must think you're god!" approach, followed by an inept attempt at matching my wit by substituting words, and failing hard.
See, in my post, "subjective appraisal" and "childish" were juxtaposed to provide contrast. You, overestimating how capable of cleverness you are, substituted "factual information" for "childish." Think about what that means. It means people know me as "factual information," and this is a brunt to my self-esteem. Also, this does not prove I am not god. All you've done is prove you don't know your wit from twit.
You fail to grasp the concept of cash value. Passing time doesn't qualify. Care to try again? Hint: You're argument is still of no consequence. You want something like, "I am being held at gunpoint and I have to make a fool out of myself on this site or else he'll pull the trigger." Then, you would look less like a fool, and it would explain your over-enthusiasm.
Assuming you're not doing this out of necessity.... Chillax, little guy, you can back down every now and then. This ain't the debate team no mo'. You obviously don't know the rules to "proof by bar jeer" either. It doesn't work if you make yourself sound high-strung and self-smitten while throwing out words you don't understand. We're laughing at you, not with you.
Yes, or stay on so I can make fun of them!
Who knew this is what would get people excited? It's not politics, or who's sexier, but which material is cheaper in laptop shell construction. Who knew! Soon, Generation Z will be gathered around a "PC World" one of them got a hold of instead of "Playboy." What is the world coming to?
Apple is not making aluminum malleable They are CNC-ing the stuff, ie. cutting it! The apple website makes you think it's something special but this is done in many metal parts manufacturing processes.
And you probably wonder why most of the world has a negative opinion of the US. Actually, you prob don't even know that.
Have you ever even left the US?
Apple brings this upon itself
Then suffer Apple, suffer. They won't bring production back to the US or to local areas in other parts of the world even if the carbon reduction would help save the Earth.
Then suffer Apple, suffer. They won't bring production back to the US or to local areas in other parts of the world even if the carbon reduction would help save the Earth.
Failing hard because it's a reply that was negatively directed towards you, right?
Sounds like you went from trying to be a saint to getting pissed off because I responded to you. Substituting words doesn't mean the context stays the same, maybe you should've gone to English class to learn about context instead of just writing juxtapose on a notecard and think you are of higher class after you finally remembered what it meant. You want childish? Someone reading 14 pages on a forum then inadvertently calling someone a loser for arguing when you've just locked yourself into the same thing.See, in my post, "subjective appraisal" and "childish" were juxtaposed to provide contrast. You, overestimating how capable of cleverness you are, substituted "factual information" for "childish." Think about what that means. It means people know me as "factual information," and this is a brunt to my self-esteem. Also, this does not prove I am not god. All you've done is prove you don't know your wit from twit.
Passing time doesn't qualify? So because I want to pass some time it doesn't qualify for wanting to continue to refute responses?
And this is all coming from the guy that spends his time reading 14 pages on an internet forum just to criticize a single person in an argument. You're the most condescending person to post in this thread, which is saying a lot.
No. The memory controller being moved to the CPU package was the difference. The chipset interface is a secondary issue that mainly muddles these discussions. Going to be extremely difficult to have a IGP implementation when the memory controller is off in another chip die and package. Even more so because Intel's new Core i3 mobile external bus design is not aimed at supporting that. Being able to license it will not solve that problem.
Correct, which is primarily a question of tradeoffs between IGP implementations not bus licensing.
A much more significant reason that contributes to why Apple's laptops are high is that the iPad has had a pricing segment carved out for it. The overall laptop market has delivered on incrementally lower price points year over year. It is primarily only Apple that asserts the notion that computer prices stay constant for 3-7 year periods of time.
Sure, Apple drops increased value-add (relative to "last year" ) component in the incremental updates (e.g, more Hz, disk, memory, etc.). However, sometimes these don't even keep up with Moore's law. (e.g., every 18 months you'd expect a doubling in base memory. )
The MacBook's price is high in part because Apple doesn't want to separate from the $1,000 price point. That puts a floor that also stops the MacBookPros from moving down also. However, in order to justify price differential from mainstream "basic" laptop pricing also have to pull more features from MBP line to justify the higher than average price.
glad I went with the MBP
I really like the feel of the white Macbooks but seeing the memory remain at 2GB is disappointing.
glad I went with the 13" MBP.
as far as these leaks, maybe they will force Apple not to be so mysterious with upcoming product. But I'd prefer that Apple raise their quality control so problems such as those with the current gen iMacs do not continue. I'll accept secrecy for a better produced product any day.
I really like the feel of the white Macbooks but seeing the memory remain at 2GB is disappointing.
glad I went with the 13" MBP.
as far as these leaks, maybe they will force Apple not to be so mysterious with upcoming product. But I'd prefer that Apple raise their quality control so problems such as those with the current gen iMacs do not continue. I'll accept secrecy for a better produced product any day.
Never say never. We don't know, when customers start appreciating or even expecting; or God forbid, demanding US manufacturing.
Costs are increasing in China, companies are moving to other countries in the region and even into different continents. There is no question about the US having lost its competitive advantage in manufacturing. Is that to say that it doesn't make financial sense to manufacture ANYTHING in the US? I don't think so.
Assembling a car takes so much longer than a computer. One costs in the region of 25k, the other costs 2.5k. I can imagine a scenario where Apple manufactures its premium products in the US.
It can take governments one Act of Parliament/Bill to provide incentive for corporations to move country. It can take one vote for boards to do that. Consider costs, revenue and things can happen pretty quick.
Come Apple! Get over 5400 RPM HDD's, I mean really
Omg .... People here simply HAVE TO complain, whatever Apple is doing
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Omg .... People here simply HAVE TO complain, whatever Apple is doing
Criticism and some complaint are OK, but HDDs and RAM are actually two areas where upgrading is incredibly easy. Even Apple is providing information on how to upgrade the memory and the HDD.
The existing MacBook (Late 2009) has been demonstrated to support 8 GB, Apple just doesn't sell it with an option for 8 GB or admit that it supports the upgrade. Apple might admit the higher limit for the new model.
e.g. MacTracker lists the MacBook (Late 2009) with "Maximum RAM: 8.0 GB (Actual) 4.0 GB Apple", and OWC will sell you 8 GB specifically for that model.
Apple products are usually made in China, right?
I wonder where they got it from? Stolen from the factory, off the back of the truck or if they are already heading into shops because the release is very soon?
Nevertheless, if Apple could, they'd crack down really hard. These products are stolen.
I wonder where they got it from? Stolen from the factory, off the back of the truck or if they are already heading into shops because the release is very soon?
Nevertheless, if Apple could, they'd crack down really hard. These products are stolen.