Not true
I had many PC notebooks. The worst is toshiba, the winbook (many years ago). Have to say thinkpads have the best casing quality, better than apple.
Apple's plastic casing is good, not the best. Better than a lot of PC laptops.
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Not true
I had many PC notebooks. The worst is toshiba, the winbook (many years ago). Have to say thinkpads have the best casing quality, better than apple.
Apple's plastic casing is good, not the best. Better than a lot of PC laptops.
Oh yeah, I'm super passionate about about aluminum and plastic.
Once again, I respond to people who respond to me, what don't you understand about this? It's a forum.I love how you play this off as being entertaining, but only once I responded to you so you didn't look like a complete fool.
You didn't want to put a stop to this argument. You wanted to single myself out with your arrogant statements thinking that I wouldn't respond and thinking you would come off as being high and mighty. Once again, this is a forum. I respond to people, who respond to me. Sorry if you have a problem with that.
You say you don't care but you just spent your time trying to research it. Makes a ton of sense, right? So did you essentially just call yourself a loser by participating in this aluminum vs plastics argument? Seems like it.
Yes, you've done your duty of being hypocritical, please go on.
So the aluminum plastic debate is still going on
Someone email Steve Jobs and ask which one costs more?
Someone email Steve Jobs and ask which one costs more?
Automobile unibodies are not milled from a solid block of steel though. If they were besides the insane cost, the vehicle would be so rigid it would probably shake the fillings from teeth.
battery life on the packing...
Just a bit OT (oops it is on topic, just confused with the present discussions)
Have any body noted the battery life on the packing, it says 7 Hrs.
By cramming the same hardware (Nearly) couldnt apple increase teh life to 9 hrs...
Previous pro was 8hrs (I think) and book was 7 hrs. Can the same pattern couldn't be followed...
Maybe the packing is fake (which makes the component fake)
Else apple is Impotent to increase the life with similar components....
Just thinking still...
Just a bit OT (oops it is on topic, just confused with the present discussions)
Have any body noted the battery life on the packing, it says 7 Hrs.
By cramming the same hardware (Nearly) couldnt apple increase teh life to 9 hrs...
Previous pro was 8hrs (I think) and book was 7 hrs. Can the same pattern couldn't be followed...
Maybe the packing is fake (which makes the component fake)
Else apple is Impotent to increase the life with similar components....
Just thinking still...
Not to worry. You'll have to pay an inflated and unjustified premium price anyway.
Steve Jobs - sent from the only iPhone 4G prototype left.
Sorry, but that's a load of hose manure. Apple assembled most of their computers in the U.S. not so long ago and many of them (like the PowerMacs) were available in MORE competitive price ranges than the current Mac Pro line now. This is a red herring that is passed along for virtually ALL products that are made in China.
The TRUTH is the savings are NOT passed on to consumers when jobs are outsourced to China. They are either passed onto the shareholders or in Apple's case to prop up their cash reserves (now over $40 BILLION). The prices of products remain the same or go UP. Look at shoes, if you don't believe me. A decade ago all of New Balance shoes were Made in the USA. They were mostly priced in the $40-80 range and had to pay at least minimum wage for the factory workers over here and yet still made a profit while NIKE was charging $120-200+ for their shoes made for roughly $6 a pair in China and paying superstars millions to advertise for their sweatshop COMMUNIST shoes. Now New Balance makes most of their shoes in China. They charge roughly similar prices (a bit higher slightly for inflation). Prices have not come down. U.S. workers lost their jobs and the local economies lost taxes. I'm sure New Balance pocketed the extra profits and like Apple is laughing all the way to the bank at the STUPID AMERICANS that think trading with COMMUNIST countries that constantly ignore human rights, safety and won't pay living wages is a great idea. It propagates despicable Communism, hurts U.S. lives, jobs and tax bases and slowly destroys this country from the inside out while some MYTH about prices doubling or tripling are propagated by ignorant people that will believe any Communist propaganda thrown their way.
The last time I looked many Dell desktop computers were still assembled in the USA (Texas plant appears slated to close in 2011, but the Miami one continues to operate) and they offer far better value for the dollar than Apple desktops. You can argue the parts inside aren't made in the USA, but that applies to nearly all electronic goods and is yet another sad story of U.S. companies selling their souls to the devil for a buck. If we had FAIR trade practices instead of "free" ones (that only benefit the poorer country and those top tier rich that profit from moving their production out of country) our country probably wouldn't be in the sad state of economic affairs that it's in right now with record unemployment. Even low-paying jobs like cashiers are disappearing due to "self checkouts". Soon there will be no jobs left in this country for the masses that need them and the mighty U.S. will become a 3rd world country doomed to obsolesecence while the countries we helped to build economies for (like Communist China that doesn't respect human rights) take over the planet and spread their doctrine unimpeded. Welcome to the future. And it's all the fault of those that think it's just "business" and that Wal-Mart is the greatest thing since sliced bread. You'll be lucky to get bread, alright.
As we will see presently, my ability to decipher what you write is easily outstripped by your inability to write in sensible English.
The original sentence was this: "Reality check: You are not God."
Why'd you change it?
You're not going slowly at all, you're just trying to pull a fast one. I asked you what you meant; you start making up a new paragraph. Can't own up to your own words?I was addressing only how childish your language was, demanding "proofs" and what not. 0% of my post was participating your stupid plastic vs aluminum war. "Factual evidence" is not what I have been taking about. Do you know what we call people who suddenly respond with no connection to what is being responded to?
You have been mentioning "14 pages" since several pages back. We are only now on Page 14. I never read the whole thread, nor did I claim to. You accused me of it repeatedly, but you're acting like a crazy person, imagining I know what I haven't read.
I, not you, wrote "Ask around." Remember, you were playing madlibs with my post. What, did you forget? End of story. No asking around, except to ask an objective observer. This thread is not about asking around. It's about a MacBook product leak rumor.
You are really dishing out the gibberish today.
I'm asking why you mimicked my post, and you start making random gibberish up! What does it mean, "accessing something of yourself"? Can you man up and explain what you meant, or will you evade the question again? Access something of yourself that gives you the power to answer sensibly.I will find... the act of accessing of myself... responding.... Dude, this is gibberish.
You haven't caught on yet: before I posted on page 10, I had read none of the comments except those on Page 10. Only you have wasted your time reading this whole thing. I asked you to explain yourself as you posted on page 10. You impudently called me a "little baby" but bizarrely acquiesced, saying you'd go through it slowly, but instead you went through and replaced most of it with gibberish. I have no idea what you hoped to accomplish by this.
I just explained the context to you above, hopefully you understand it now.
No. I shan't understand it until you explain it, rather than babble in gibberish. You don't seem to know what "context" means, because we're talking about the context of your post in page 10, and you are talking about your sentiments since the post. I am ONLY interested in how you meant that post to make sense, in English. There is no ambiguity due to context, so we don't need a special context, other than "in English." Go word by word and explain this:
My question is and always was "What the devil does that mean?" Was it an attempt at meaning? If so, what did you intend? If it's a failed attempt like I called it, will you own up to it? I'd have more respect for you if you did, rather than start talking again about "subjectively accessing something of yourself."
Did you really just do that in real life? I mean, get hysterical, aloud, deluding yourself? You're not "rephrasing" anything; you're just throwing a hissy fit.
98% of people? Go back through 14 pages and you'll see that there were more than just 3 people arguing, there were 3 people on a certain side but it takes people from the other side to argue as well does it not? Or have you simply ignored math in favor of your simple notecard regime?
Notecard regime?
So now you're telling me to go back and read the 14 pages I never read but you keep accusing me of having read.
Figures. Yeah, you need to take my advice from 4 pages ago: Chillax, bro, you're really not making any sense.When I'm hysterical and in denial, I find looking at this doctor-prescribed list of random English words helps calm me down:
ecdysis psoas reductio ad absurdum tertiary
asphyxiation apropos blue mobile
sine qua non coprophagic protozoan Taco Bell
jejune appraisal peristalsis chihuahua
meliorate assess antediluvian acrimony
fecund access Australia aluminum
jocund abscess Austria plastic
erudite apples inconspicuous you've been had
Aiqw, in all honesty, I find your gibberish entertaining.
Your first sentence above is a new gem. "But only once I responded to you so you didn't look like a complete fool." I certainly did single you out and I haven't been disappointed. As someone pointed out earlier, you were rude, and as soon as someone criticizes you, you start with the gibberish.Remember?
And when you're ridiculous, it gets hard to distinguish between people "running away" and people keeping their distance. This is where I come in. I am batsh*t insane. I like to jump right in and see what happens when ridiculous and insane collide.
I think he has an above-average IQ, but you're probably right about not further criticizing what he writes. I found it entertaining, and I hope you found a little entertainment in one or both of us. Or not. Anyway, I'm too crazy to keep pointing out all the craziness.
Because you know, people in this forum have to complain with Apple for something, and they already complained about Core2duo in the MBP 13" thread One month ago
More like your inability to comprehend sentences correctly, this is really starting to be a complete joke and you are about to see why.
It's called figure of speech, do me a favor and look up what it means.The original sentence was this: "Reality check: You are not God."
Why'd you change it?
I was demanding "proof" for these people making claims. They were the ones that started making claims such as aluminum costing more for Apple to use than polycarbonate plastic, not the other way around, so get your facts straight before you single me out.
0% of your post was participating in the plastic vs aluminum 'war'?
I see you're not very good at math.
Here's a couple of that 0% you're talking about:
"Live notes from Apple's Q408 Conference Call:
Quote:
Oppenheimer: Aluminum unibody enclosures for MacBook family will initially have higher costs; volume will bring down the cost to Apple over time."
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/we...omments/18839/
Now, this is a digest version. I found a (presumed accurate) transcript:
Quote:
Oppenheimer:
"...The level of quality these products deliver to customers is mind-blowing for their price points. The unibody precision aluminum enclosures would normally cost hundreds of dollars by themselves."
Source: http://seekingalpha.com/article/1009...nscript?page=4
Hundreds of dollars? Oppenheimer is probably using the term "normally" to mean "if it weren't for all sorts of technological advances that makes this dirt, or rather, plastic cheap, it could cost a lot more."
And on page 5:
Quote:
Richard Gardner - Citigroup
Okay, thank you. And if I could follow-up, Peter, and maybe ask if you could give us a sense of how much of the gross margin outlook for the fourth quarter is related to the higher costs associated with the aluminum uni-body enclosures, and maybe some sense of how much more expensive that is then the way you were doing things previously?
Peter Oppenheimer
Well, the guidance that I provided, Rich, the sequential decline really is driven from the introductions of the notebooks and iPods, which we couldn’t be more excited about. And there’s many, many new technologies, new features in those besides the uni-body but that contributed.
As I said on the last call, we were going to introduce these products. They were initially going to have higher costs and through volume manufacturing and cost engineering, we’re going to work down, work to get down the cost curve over time. But we’ve made a big investment in these products and these are some of the best we’ve ever shipped.
Richard Gardner - Citigroup
Okay. Peter, could I ask one more -- and that is we have seen a 35% decline in aluminum pricing so far -- well, since you gave the guidance for fiscal ’09 gross margin, aluminum is down 35%. How quickly can we expect that to start flowing through the P&L? Thank you.
Peter Oppenheimer
We would certainly sell our new MacBooks cheaper if we just delivered them with a block of aluminum but we have to machine that aluminum and it’s a fairly precision operation, so the cost of the aluminum matters some but is not a dominant cost.
Richard Gardner - Citigroup
Okay. All right, thank you.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1009...nscript?page=5
So, there you have it. At least when they adopted the technology, as most of us would intuitively think, the fancy aluminum uni-body process cost more than the extant plastic process. Of course, that was what Apple thought in 2008. "
I love watching people backpeddle.
It's called different posts per page in your settings, might want to look it up. If you haven't read everything then you are wasting my time by responding. You responded to a couple of single line posts I made with a bunch of therapeutic ******** trying to make yourself look 'intelligent'.
What did I forget? I forgot nothing. You want to talk about the topic of the post then talk about instead of calling everyone a loser who participated in a certain conversation. You're the biggest child here. All you have done is called people names until you actually contributed a post that pertained to what was being talked about at the time.
I meant to say assessing, excuse me for missing something when typing fast.You are really dishing out the gibberish today.
See above.I will find... the act of accessing of myself... responding.... Dude, this is gibberish.
So you read a couple of posts on a single page(which is complete ******** because your last post was talking about miles and myself) and you decide the following:
I'm going to be as big of a dick as possible because I don't like what this guy is saying, therefore I will try to belittle him and post a negative response while effectively calling everyone else in the thread an idiot.
It's called a typo, maybe you should find something better to do than repeat the same line over and over again hoping that you've come up with a clever response for a typo.
Did I really just do what in real life? Respond to someone who has nothing better to do than try to sound like he's above everyone else on a forum? You went from trying to be a saint with your 'speech' you posted and it backfired on you.
So, you've never read them yet you knew SPECIFICALLY that there were three people arguing on one side? HAHAHAHAHA!Notecard regime?
So now you're telling me to go back and read the 14 pages I never read but you keep accusing me of having read.
When I'm hysterical and in denial, I find looking at this doctor-prescribed list of random English words helps calm me down:
ecdysis psoas reductio ad absurdum tertiary
asphyxiation apropos blue mobile
sine qua non coprophagic protozoan Taco Bell
jejune appraisal peristalsis chihuahua
meliorate assess antediluvian acrimony
fecund access Australia aluminum
jocund abscess Austria plastic
erudite apples inconspicuous you've been had
Please do yourself a favor and cover up your fallacy's better.
Aiqw, in all honesty, I find your gibberish entertaining.
Remember?
Hilarious, you want rude, it's someone calling everyone in a thread an idiot. Once again you harp on a typo that was made. Bravo to you.
I need one last laugh.
Keyword: WAS
Again, if you're not owning up to page 10 at this point, you're just a coward. You know yourself for what you are.
OK, that actually doesn't quite work because it's still in rather awkward English, but then we write on different levels. It's a step in the right direction. It still sounded hilarious, so it entertained me.
Was this also a typo?
My money is on you not admitting that was utter nonsense.
You have a highly selective memory. Lizardo said that, if I remember right. Anyway, it was someone else. I just took it at face value. It doesn't even matter how many people were arguing about it. Yes, I never bothered to read most of it. I think it's stupid. I singled you out because you were on Page 10, when I tuned in.
You spelled "fallacies" wrong. The irony is blinding me.
Typo?
Keyword: WAS
Again, if you're not owning up to page 10 at this point, you're just a coward. You know yourself for what you are.
I meant to say assessing, excuse me for missing something when typing fast.
OK, that actually doesn't quite work because it's still in rather awkward English, but then we write on different levels. It's a step in the right direction. It still sounded hilarious, so it entertained me.
Was this also a typo?
My money is on you not admitting that was utter nonsense.
You have a highly selective memory. Lizardo said that, if I remember right. Anyway, it was someone else. I just took it at face value. It doesn't even matter how many people were arguing about it. Yes, I never bothered to read most of it. I think it's stupid. I singled you out because you were on Page 10, when I tuned in.
You spelled "fallacies" wrong. The irony is blinding me.
Typo?
'aiqw9182'
Maybe you should go and write a book if you're willing to spend your time writing all these absurdly long comments, and all for what purpose? To satisfy yourself against 'people' from across the net?
Maybe you should go and write a book if you're willing to spend your time writing all these absurdly long comments, and all for what purpose? To satisfy yourself against 'people' from across the net?
I need one last laugh.
I'm a coward because I pointed out that you did start to talk about aluminum and plastics? You are sad, pompous fool.
Entertain this, entertain that. Step in the right direction? It was always in the right direction, you just can't get over a TYPO and now you ignore it. If you hadn't noticed I replaced the word you originally used with the definition of the word.OK, that actually doesn't quite work because it's still in rather awkward English, but then we write on different levels. It's a step in the right direction. It still sounded hilarious, so it entertained me.
Was this also a typo?
I've already explained it to you, you just couldn't get past a typo and had to make sure you mentioned it about five times.
You never bothered to read most of it so you went to a single page and just made assumptions on a couple of posts you read. It's all coming out now, you have no basis for your original argument.
Dealing with a pompous idiot on an internet forum rubs off on you.
So you never did own up for it. You say you have, but we know better, clearly, from your attempt to replace it with a new one full of more gibberish. (The one with the typo.) This one is not a typo. It's untenable, and I've had my fun with you. You stand by the above 100%. I'll let that speak for itself.As for typos, I don't think I've made one. You got that "skill" from your quality education, not me.
As for typos, I don't think I've made one. You got that "skill" from your quality education, not me.
I simply replaced the word appraisal with the definition and it all came clear, your mind apparently couldn't handle that.
"Last edited by (L) : Today at 03:07 PM."
I simply replaced the word appraisal with the definition and it all came clear, your mind apparently couldn't handle that.
"Last edited by (L) : Today at 03:07 PM."
Don't delude yourself; I edited only to add the note about typos. You make typos everywhere and you certainly look like a fool. As you can see, I'm not the only one who thinks this. You can grin, but you can't hide from the fact that you never owned up to explaining your original post. Here, you explain your typo again. My mind handles that fine. Yours is having trouble with focusing on this:
Arse Holes
worst un-boxing video ever. wreck-less fools. I don't think they realise how expensive the equipment they've got is. and why is he tapping it the whole time.
yeah, load of *****
worst un-boxing video ever. wreck-less fools. I don't think they realise how expensive the equipment they've got is. and why is he tapping it the whole time.
yeah, load of *****