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The new iPod Touch is a deception IMHO :

- 16 GB base model
- 1 GB of RAM
- Still a 4-inch screen
- Low-clock processor
- No Touch ID
- Still no GPS

You missed they also don't have an anti-gravity module for it to feather-fall to the floor when your drop it. They still don't have user adjustable case color and you have to order a color at time of purchase. Worst, no free standing holographic display to really get the full features of the Disney Star Wars app.

Also, your pony don't show up for your birthday again.
 
Because Apple's entire philosophy is to sell you an obsolete and crippled product. That's how they get you to upgrade in a year and buy another one that has a feature that should have been part of the original product.

The Touch ID component is quite expensive even in the millions and single sourced. GPS chips are nearly in the same league with their power needs and antenna requirements. For $199, all of these features are a damn good buy. The iPod Touch is not to match the price and feature level of the iPhone. Even the first generation iPod Touch was missing features of the original iPhone.
 
There's no competition in the market, so iPod progress occurs whenever the parts run out for the last generation.

This also is a good sign that the ATV4 will be A8-based as well.

Actually there is, if you have the money, lots of money:

http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/walkman-digital-music-players/t/walkman?type=premium-sound

http://www.aloaudio.com/astell-kern/ak240

But yeah, I would rather have an iPod Touch, would be interesting to see what a $1000 or $2500 MP3 player sounds like though?
 
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Yeah, HTC is notorious for giving their customers the finger. HTC One is more than capable of being relevant today and they never bothered to give users the ability to update past 4.1. None of its owners were pleased at all, but CM11 and CM12 have alleviated that (though rooting the phone is a major PITA).



this is one main reason iOS prevails when selecting a device/OS to handle everyday business operations.


LOL, that is so hilarious, think about this,

customer buys 100 Android devices, you update your program to be even better (optimized, more user friendly, cutting down steps) and it doesn't work because those android devices doesn't support the new OS.


but then again, Apple supports A5 devices to iOS 9, they should of cut it off a LONG time ago. so its a give or take.


I've had customers buy couple apple devices since they were A5 devices and they still sold them,
Actually there is, if you have the money, lots of money:

http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/walkman-digital-music-players/t/walkman?type=premium-sound

http://www.aloaudio.com/astell-kern/ak240

But yeah, I would rather have an iPod Touch, would be interesting to see what a $1000 or $2500 MP3 player sounds like though?



lol you can't compare an MP3 player to an iPod touch,

you can compare a Nano to those, but not a Touch, they're two totally different products
 
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lol you can't compare an MP3 player to an iPod touch,

you can compare a Nano to those, but not a Touch, they're two totally different products

With the Sony you can, it runs Android and has a 4" touchscreen. Obviously you'd expect it to sound a damn site better than a Touch for $1100! It even has gold in it's chassis?

I will be looking forward to getting the new Touch though. Silver or gold? Hmm..
 
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With the Sony you can, it runs Android and has a 4" touchscreen. Obviously you'd expect it to sound a damn site better than a Touch for $1100! It even has gold in it's chassis?

A long time ago, iPods were notorious for having the WORST sound quality of any mp3 player on the market. Sony and Cowon scored highest on blind tests. I doubt Apple has done much about that considering they still ship those god awful headphones nobody bothers to throw out and replace with some decent.

Having said that, Sony still reigns king in the MP3 player department, regardless of sales numbers. At least with the android based mp3 players you're not screwed with iTunes dictating how and with what device you can transfer music to and from; ridiculous.
 
That's exactly what it still is. The camera is better than any camera on ANY touch/iPhone comparison. (5/5S camera) The low clocking on the processor keeps the battery running longer and it also pushes a lot LESS pixels than the iPhone. It comes in 128 GB for 399. ALL iPhones have had 1Gb of RAM for 3 years. As does the current lineup. Not sure how this some horrible upgrade that doesn't compare to iPhones. It's the closest and iPod has EVER been to an iPhone.

Not true. The iPod Touch 3rd gen went hand and hand with the iPhone 3G(S) minus the lack of a camera.
 
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With the Sony you can, it runs Android and has a 4" touchscreen. Obviously you'd expect it to sound a damn site better than a Touch for $1100! It even has gold in it's chassis?

I will be looking forward to getting the new Touch though. Silver or gold? Hmm..



no you can't iPod Touch as a full functional OS (iOS) and a development program (Xcode)

its a full functioning mobile computer, the other is not.


I can develop apps and have our customers use them at their stores, warehouses, office, for the iPod touch.

Cant with a sony mp3 player.
 
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no you can't iPod Touch as a full functional OS (iOS) and a development program (Xcode)

its a full functioning mobile computer, the other is not.


I can develop apps and have our customers use them at their stores, warehouses, office, for the iPod touch.

Cant with a sony mp3 player.

So an Android running MP3 player is different how? And the iPod Touch plays MP3's? Not sure what the difference is bar price and sound quality and OS.
 
A long time ago, iPods were notorious for having the WORST sound quality of any mp3 player on the market. Sony and Cowon scored highest on blind tests. I doubt Apple has done much about that considering they still ship those god awful headphones nobody bothers to throw out and replace with some decent.

Having said that, Sony still reigns king in the MP3 player department, regardless of sales numbers. At least with the android based mp3 players you're not screwed with iTunes dictating how and with what device you can transfer music to and from; ridiculous.

If a Sony player costing $1100 didn't sound better then a $200 iPod Touch then their would be something very wrong, it's also pointless claiming Sony's MP3 players sound better, they better do for a $900 premium!
It is also personal choice if you think you are 'screwed' with iTunes, and I'm sorry to tell you but my experience with iPod's is that of great sound quality.
Interesting you base your opinion on Apple's sound quality due to the crappy headphones they put in the box too.
 
Does the iPod even have any competitors left? Still alternative MP3 players on the market? Never hear about them anymore with the iPhone overshadowing everything.

You've got to be joking. The iPod as a portable music player is a joke compared to the competition.

Astell&Kern, FiiO, HiFiMan and even Sony all make better portable players. They support FLAC, hi-res, DSD, and offer way more storage (up to 256GB).

The iPod is supposed to be a portable music player first. Instead, it's a jack-of-all-trades master of none.

Tim Cook has no interest in making the best products.
 
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I, for one, am not disappointed in this update. Just ordered the blue 128 with the free engraving and apple care. After the exorbitant California state sales tax....almost 500 bucks. Ouch but no monthly fees! The improved camera really sealed it for me...if they kept the 5mp I would not have been a buyer...
 
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I really don't want one of the bigger iPhones but I need a new phone. I was hoping to bide my time and get a new iPod if they made one, then snag a smaller iphone when that's made.

It's here, and although I'm not bothered by it retaining the same design and being at a lower clock speed, there's really no Touch ID or 2GB of ram? I'm truly disappointed. The pricing is great, but why would I ever consider this- even if I wasn't temporarily replacing my phone.
 
This is a really nice update, at 199 it's cheaper than a smart remote on those Amazon prime deals today and does so much more.
 
You've got to be joking. The iPod as a portable music player is a joke compared to the competition.

Astell&Kern, FiiO, HiFiMan and even Sony all make better portable players. They support FLAC, hi-res, DSD, and offer way more storage (up to 256GB).

The iPod is supposed to be a portable music player first. Instead, it's a jack-of-all-trades master of none.

Tim Cook has no interest in making the best products.

So is that the $2500 Astell & Kern player you are thinking off then? An MP3 player that costs a much as an iMac sounds better then an iPod Touch. Not much of a revelation there is it. And what's the price of these other players, Sony's Hi Res player is $1200: http://store.sony.com/128-gb-walkma.../cat-27-catid-All-MP3-Players?_t=pfm=category

Or are you talking about Sony's $65 player? http://store.sony.com/4gb-walkman-m...-Players?vva_ColorCode=000000&_t=pfm=category
 
So an Android running MP3 player is different how? And the iPod Touch plays MP3's? Not sure what the difference is bar price and sound quality and OS.




That MP3 Player is powered by Android OS, but does it offer the full OS? i highly doubt it, that would be definitely an over kill and it would just be too complex for any user to use as an MP3 player.
(iOS and Nano ring a bell? it doesn't have the full OS)


anyways, iPod Touch isn't an MP3 player, its a mobile computer that has the ability to play music.


Stop having that tunnel vision type thinking, just because of the name "iPod" doesn't mean its specifically for Music.


Actually the most potential of this product isn't being an MP3 player or a cheaper iOS product to consumers, its the gate way (along with the iPad) for mobile devices in ANY type of business.

This and the iPad is going to be pushing the B2B store. Companies aren't going to pay $500 bucks more for a new iPhone, in which most cases wouldn't need cellular network anyways.
 
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So is that the $2500 Astell & Kern player you are thinking off then? An MP3 player that costs a much as an iMac sounds better then an iPod Touch. Not much of a revelation there is it. And what's the price of these other players, Sony's Hi Res player is $1200: http://store.sony.com/128-gb-walkman-hi-res-digital-music-player-zid27-NWZX2BLK/cat-27-catid-All-MP3-Players?_t=pfm=category

Or are you talking about Sony's $65 player? http://store.sony.com/4gb-walkman-mp3-player-zid27-NWZE383//cat-27-catid-All-MP3-Players?vva_ColorCode=000000&_t=pfm=category

Sad attempt to try and mislead and deceive other readers.

No, they also have a $500 player, but you deceptively ignored that one.

http://www.amazon.com/Astell-Kern-AK-Hi-Res-Player/dp/B00XNME0GC

Also, you failed to acknowledge that FiiO and HiFiMan, also referenced, all offer similarly priced, yet superior portable music players.

And what's wrong with a high priced portable player? Some companies actually care about trying to produce the best product they can. Tim Cook has zero interest in making the best products. He cares about profit margins.
 
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40 hours is 'good' but its never actually 40 hours.
Honestly, it depends on how you're listening to your music. I can't imagine that battery life would be the same for streaming as it would be for listening to music locally. It has to keep cellular data/WiFi up at all times to accommodate it.
 
Seriously? Get over it. Show me a 3 year old android phone that runs as good as ANY 3 year old iOS device. Same goes for computers average Mac is kept about 5 years compared to Windows machines that are like sloths after 5 years. People are still rocking iPhone 4S and 5, iPad 2,3,4 and 2010 Macbook.

Gut check pal, get your facts straight.

I'm still rocking my Late 2008 Aluminum Macbook for Ruby on Rails development!
 
And why these people wanting a refrsh iPod touch to be more powerful than iPhone 6? or iPhone 6s rumors? You should be disappointed.. no force touch..

And wtf these people comparing specs to Android.
 
That MP3 Player is powered by Android OS, but does it offer the full OS? i highly doubt it, that would be definitely an over kill and it would just be too complex for any user to use as an MP3 player.
(iOS and Nano ring a bell? it doesn't have the full OS)


anyways, iPod Touch isn't an MP3 player, its a mobile computer that has the ability to play music.


Stop having that tunnel vision type thinking, just because of the name "iPod" doesn't mean its specifically for Music.


Actually the most potential of this product isn't being an MP3 player or a cheaper iOS product to consumers, its the gate way (along with the iPad) for mobile devices in ANY type of business.

This and the iPad is going to be pushing the B2B store. Companies aren't going to pay $500 bucks more for a new iPhone, in which most cases wouldn't need cellular network anyways.

Android is android, there is no real cut down version. I also never stated that the Touch was specifically for music, where did I state that? You seemed to be implying you can't do the same, or that an android powered music player is less of a device, it's not, it's the same as an android phone and an iPhone.
The Sony player has full android and the google play store and runs apps and widgets, the same as the phone.

Sad attempt to try and mislead and deceive other readers.

No, they also have a $500 player, but you deceptively ignored that one.

http://www.amazon.com/Astell-Kern-AK-Hi-Res-Player/dp/B00XNME0GC

Also, you failed to acknowledge that FiiO and HiFiMan, also referenced, all offer similarly priced, yet superior portable music players.

And what's wrong with a high priced portable player? Some companies actually care about trying to produce the best product they can. Tim Cook has zero interest in making the best products. He cares about profit margins.

Actually you failed to post any players, just names, and if their range starts from $500 that's still $300 MORE than the Touch, so again you have proved nothing other than a more expensive device offers better quality, guess what a BMW is better quality than a Ford. Nothing wrong with VERY high priced portable players, but don't come on here attempting to slate the Touch because a player costing as much as an iMac has better sound quality, it's an utterly pointless comparison.
 
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