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New Apple TV Rumored to Launch in 2022 With These Four Features
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They discounted it for a long time. And it was a heavy discount. Very unusual for Apple and a fairly recently released ATV. They may just have had way too much inventory due to pandemic demand falling off a cliff.
I would guess they bring that price back for Black Friday though.
Not sure if a new one is coming or not. SEems odd they would already have a new version of the new remote. I could see a boost in specs which is what they should have done with the 2021 release. But they probably figured the new remote would be enough for now.
A reason I didn't get the new one though was because the device itself seemed to not be any more powerful than the one I had and the one I had worked quite good. Too much money for me to jump to a new one for no real gain except a new remote but I was fine with the old remote.
But as the rumors also say maybe they are going to release a cheaper version. Maybe the new one will be $180 and then they will make a stick with the old specs....who knows. But as much as I like the ATV, it is a bit pricey at $180 when the competition does a good job at $50.
I got a Roku tv in the basement and didn't bother to put an ATV on it because the roku was good enough. My other tvs had ATVs on them. ...I mean the ATV was almost as much as the RokuTV.
.No one probably.
With Apple Music don't care much about my home library any more.
IT has a podcast app, apple music app, photos app and various movie/tv apps. ...so not really sure how it isn't the same thing except they don't care about your home music library any more.
Not really sure what you're saying other than that. Not sure why it would integrate with consoles or what use that would be.
slow? never thought it was slow. it always felt (like) the fastest tvos out there. And the multi-tasking is great.
love my ATV more after I got Homepods because of the wireless tv sound that works really good now and because of some "hey Siri" functionality.
apple arcade...I think they should give up. I have that as part of the Apple One Bundle but never use it. I don't really like game subscriptions (personally) because I don't really play games like that. I will get a game when I really feel like I want to play it. But otherwise I may not play games at all. And I often stick with a game for awhile. ...but i don't play many games these days any way so maybe i'm the wrong person to chime in in some ways. Kind of been there, done that with most games nowadays.
But making a console...well first isn't the ATV a console in some form or fashion? You can play Apple Arcade on it and buy games for it...if you want. I don't see the appeal if they make the ATV bigger and more powerful like an Xbox or PS. IF one wants that one has a few choices already.
IT's way too late to make the ATV a cable box. CAble is dying a slow death. People are moving to streaming and it seems like the old linear cable package gets closer and closer to being disappeared. More sports than ever on streaming. Just have to wait for ESPN to go streaming and then...it's pretty much over as far as cable locking down unique content.
I don't use Siri a ton but it works ok for music via Homepods. And for muting commercials. And for skipping ahead although maybe instead I actually said "skip 2 minutes" into the remote when watching Amazon Prime NFL Thursdays. One thing that bugs a bit is I can mute by saying "Hey Siri mute "but if I say "mute" into the voice remote it doesn't work. And vice versa in other cases. IT should be more universally uniform. But otherwise sure it still needs improvement. There's a lot of basic stuff that could be done better still.
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It already does this. If the HDMI is connected to the ARC/eARC HDMI port on your TV, all audio passes through to any AirPlay 2 speakers you have. This works (for example) with my Blu-Ray player, and the Apple TV isn’t even turned on.
The reason for this is because Apple doesn't subsidize the cost by collecting and selling massive amounts of data about you.
Would be nice for them to also update the UI to better view our movie collections.
Wow. There is a shocking amount of wrong in your post.
— For starters, the Apple TV remote has been redesigned a total of four times*
(I’m counting the remote that came with Macs as the first-gen)
— There are two reasons Apple doesn’t sell a cheaper, less-featured version of the Apple TV box. The first is because, unlike ALL the competitors, Apple doesn’t subsidize the cost by collecting and selling massive amounts of data gathered by the device, nor does it inject extra ads into your programs to subsidize the cost of the TV as every brand of TV does.
The second reason is that Apple offers the core features in the TV app on nearly every brand of TV sold. How could a cheap Apple TV box compete against FREE?
— Apple Arcade is doing great, and new games still come out monthly. Arcade is part of Apple’s Services division, which is growing double digits every quarter and is Apple’s most profitable arm. Apple doesn’t reveal breakdowns, but Apple Arcade is clearly a part of that success. I cannot see any reason why Apple wants to lose money on a console when they are presently the number one gaming platform on Earth.
— I’m with you on the router, I wish Apple would make one again, but you appear to unaware that various Apple devices can be a home hub: see this article on Apple’s site about this:
Set up your HomePod, HomePod mini, Apple TV, or iPad as a home hub - Apple Support
Set up a home hub to control your smart home accessories while you're away from home, share control of your accessories with others, and automate your accessories to do what you want, when you want.
The big stumbling block so far to controlling almost anything that is part of your smart home has been the lack of a unified industry standard, meaning that when you bought something you had to make sure it was HomeKit compatible if you wanted it to work with your other HomeKit devices. The new standard Matter is gaining wide adoption, and is in fact mostly HomeKit. This means that in the next few years, nearly every smart home device will have Matter support, and thus be controllable with the Home app or whatever alternative method you like.
— What Jobs “cracked” was quoted directly by Tim Cook: “the future of TV is apps.”
Jobs was exactly right, and that future is already here. “Smart” TVs are just limited computers with apps and an OS and related technologies. “TV” is now mostly delivered via the internet. “TV” has escaped the confines of a “television set” and is available on computers, phones, tablets, and other devices. All “TV” is now available on demand.
Thus the Apple TV might actually be one of the most Jobsian devices Apple currently produces (though I think he would also really love the current iMac). Outside of general-purpose computers, he really liked simple devices that did their job so well they were almost invisible to the user, just part of the fabric of their reality.
1. Apple is most certainly collecting data about your viewing habits. They just don't sell it to 3rd parties.
2. Have you ever watched a Apple TV+ program? They insert an ad at the beginning of every episode.
If the new remote has "Find My" support and works with older Apple TVs, I very well may buy one. But I'm not at all interested in upgrading the AppleTV itself.
I'm sure there is plenty of room for improvement for Apple TV (there are some great suggestions in this thread!), but the only one I really care about right now is this: Let me use the storage space I paid for on my box the way I want! Let me upload files/videos/photos to the Apple TV and LEAVE THEM THERE! Let apps store/read/play for me. It drives me up a wall that I have all this space on my Apple TV, but I can't leave my kids' favorite videos on there -- I have to stream them from the internet or over the local network.
If they just make the new remote more reliable with fewer incidents of losing the connection to it's matched AppleTV, I would be more than happy. Finally the three remotes in the house seem to have settled down and are working without issue. (Knock on wood.)
Wow. There is a shocking amount of wrong in your post.
— For starters, the Apple TV remote has been redesigned a total of four times*
(I’m counting the remote that came with Macs as the first-gen)
— There are two reasons Apple doesn’t sell a cheaper, less-featured version of the Apple TV box. The first is because, unlike ALL the competitors, Apple doesn’t subsidize the cost by collecting and selling massive amounts of data gathered by the device, nor does it inject extra ads into your programs to subsidize the cost of the TV as every brand of TV does.
The second reason is that Apple offers the core features in the TV app on nearly every brand of TV sold. How could a cheap Apple TV box compete against FREE?
— Apple Arcade is doing great, and new games still come out monthly. Arcade is part of Apple’s Services division, which is growing double digits every quarter and is Apple’s most profitable arm. Apple doesn’t reveal breakdowns, but Apple Arcade is clearly a part of that success. I cannot see any reason why Apple wants to lose money on a console when they are presently the number one gaming platform on Earth.
— I’m with you on the router, I wish Apple would make one again, but you appear to unaware that various Apple devices can be a home hub: see this article on Apple’s site about this:
Set up your HomePod, HomePod mini, Apple TV, or iPad as a home hub - Apple Support
Set up a home hub to control your smart home accessories while you're away from home, share control of your accessories with others, and automate your accessories to do what you want, when you want.support.apple.com
The big stumbling block so far to controlling almost anything that is part of your smart home has been the lack of a unified industry standard, meaning that when you bought something you had to make sure it was HomeKit compatible if you wanted it to work with your other HomeKit devices. The new standard Matter is gaining wide adoption, and is in fact mostly HomeKit. This means that in the next few years, nearly every smart home device will have Matter support, and thus be controllable with the Home app or whatever alternative method you like.
— What Jobs “cracked” was quoted directly by Tim Cook: “the future of TV is apps.”
Jobs was exactly right, and that future is already here. “Smart” TVs are just limited computers with apps and an OS and related technologies. “TV” is now mostly delivered via the internet. “TV” has escaped the confines of a “television set” and is available on computers, phones, tablets, and other devices. All “TV” is now available on demand.
Thus the Apple TV might actually be one of the most Jobsian devices Apple currently produces (though I think he would also really love the current iMac). Outside of general-purpose computers, he really liked simple devices that did their job so well they were almost invisible to the user, just part of the fabric of their reality.
Smart TVs and streaming boxes had apps long before Jobs said he cracked it. FYI.
Unless they’re going to dramatically update Apple Arcade what’s the point of a big spec upgrade?
Not like the current one is slow at a ui level is it ?
Not like the current one is slow at a ui level is it ?
We've done some traveling of late and indeed throw the apple tv in the suitcase. Connecting to the hotel wifi is so easy when using the iphone to login.