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New Apple TV Rumored to Launch in 2022 With These Four Features
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I didn’t know hdr10+ had been added and I can tell you I’ve had my share of issues with Dolby vision
I don't really understand why they wouldn't put together another pre-recorded event and send it "as live" across streaming platforms. It's just a massive commercial beamed to the world where Apple gets to control the entire message without relying on compliant tech journalists.
You really think Apple cares enough about Apple TV to include it in an event beyond a footnote?
The event would be focused on iPads and Macs duh. But Gurman is saying no event in October for any of this stuff.
I was going to say the same thing. These are not new features they are upgrades.
The Apple TV started out as the “home entertainment hub” and controller… the remote, the front row, the integration with all the apps that could have any relation to a home theater… not many people remember this;… and then Apple TV changed direction for the worse IMHO, way worse; Apple then did away with front row and iTunes, iDVD Player, iPhoto, etc… all of it that was integrated into Apple TV/Front Row… even the remote went to crap… That was the point I was trying to make. Apple TV had a bright future by following the original design/purpose… its since been down hill. To your doubt about why it should integrate with game consoles, because Apple doesn’t do that.. its not in their wheel house to make them nor the games that run on them, but why not let the Apple TV control them to some extent and also have a presence in their menu’s… Powering them on and off, and changing the TV input settings for the consoles would be all thats really needed… for the more simple Mac based games they could still integrate with Apple Arcade…No one probably.
With Apple Music don't care much about my home library any more.
IT has a podcast app, apple music app, photos app and various movie/tv apps. ...so not really sure how it isn't the same thing except they don't care about your home music library any more.
Not really sure what you're saying other than that. Not sure why it would integrate with consoles or what use that would be.
Finally, just because you don’t happen to care about your own personal digital libraries doesn’t mean there isn’t a significant amount of people who do… and frankly, Apple themselves encouraged people to create and manage digital libraries on the Mac…. Music, Video, & Photographic, etc… and then they removed or drastically changed the tools for you to do so. Such as iTunes, or iDVD Player, even iPhoto was changed to something significantly less capable.
Apple TV could have been something - the center of the home theater/entertainment and smart home (homekit) - but they (Apple) decided to change things after Steve Jobs passed away - and its been for the worse and down hill ever since. It will remain on the decline until they return to what Steve Jobs had envisioned and the people wanted and enjoyed having… BTW: Apple Music sucks IMHO.
They really need to change the name of the hardware. It’s too similar to the app and their own streaming service. I really don’t understand why they have this naming scheme at all. Call it the Apple Hub or Apple Home hub or something. Home hub sounds too similar to the Apple Home app, though.
I would also like to use the storage however I want. Why can’t I download my TV & film purchases, music and photos? I’d rather store them offline, so then I have them somewhere and don’t have to rely on the internet. I’ve started purchasing the films and shows I like because I’m not a fan of having so many streaming services. Especially now they’re going to be including adverts.
I think I have the Apple TV 4K 32gb version, but I hardly use the storage because I don’t play Apple Arcade on it.
I would also like to use the storage however I want. Why can’t I download my TV & film purchases, music and photos? I’d rather store them offline, so then I have them somewhere and don’t have to rely on the internet. I’ve started purchasing the films and shows I like because I’m not a fan of having so many streaming services. Especially now they’re going to be including adverts.
I think I have the Apple TV 4K 32gb version, but I hardly use the storage because I don’t play Apple Arcade on it.
Note the Apple TV 4K 2nd gen already has Bluetooth 5.0. If you were looking to upgrade that spec, would suggest 5.3.
Also re HDMI 2.1a - Apple hasn't even implemented the full functionality of the existing HDMI 2.1. Would suggest they update that first!
Intentionally incremental updates to keep the cash flowing. I'll wait for a real update.
you said that already.
It doesn't make any sense that the ATV should integrate with consoles. Where is the gain? Already I just pick up a gaming controller and hit a button and the tv switches inputs and the console menu comes up. No benefit for any sort of ATV integration.and it's not that I don't care about personal music, it's that the reality is ...the streaming music services have largely eliminated the idea of the personal music collection. I had a few hundred cds. Probably more than average. I have no need for them nor their digital versions. It's all on streaming.
ATV is the center of home theater/entertainment more that than ever overall. IT gives a person access to more music, tv, movies, photos, & games than ever before. So not really sure what you're talking about.
...except you want ATV to play your digital files is what it comes down to it seems. And that's fine to wish for that again...but I don't think that's the way forward. IT's a niche now. Apple not really the company to go serve niches.
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As far as spec bumps go, this is pretty small potatoes. How about making it a viable gaming platform by giving it an M2 and an SD card slot or some other way to give it mass storage. I have 2tb on my Series X. 2tb! Meanwhile the Apple TV has 64gb. It's not exactly impressive. Also, and this is stating the obvious, stick an airtag chip in the damn remote and a backlight.
Also I don't get why Apple support HDMI 2.1 but there's no ALLM or 120hz. I'm not bothered about HDR10+ though, it's effectively a dead format. Also it's about time Apple added support for Dolby True HD to iTunes and Apple TV+, and if the current box can't output those formats then add it to the new one.
On the software front the gapping hole is Netflix in the TV app. Do whatever it takes Apple, give them a boat load of money, but make it happen. Siri search can't even search Netflix anymore, and that's something which used to work and has since been disabled. It's pretty poor.
Also I don't get why Apple support HDMI 2.1 but there's no ALLM or 120hz. I'm not bothered about HDR10+ though, it's effectively a dead format. Also it's about time Apple added support for Dolby True HD to iTunes and Apple TV+, and if the current box can't output those formats then add it to the new one.
On the software front the gapping hole is Netflix in the TV app. Do whatever it takes Apple, give them a boat load of money, but make it happen. Siri search can't even search Netflix anymore, and that's something which used to work and has since been disabled. It's pretty poor.
The gain is i don’t have to hit another button, the gain is i could be in another room than the game console, but have a TV in this room and want to play a game while someone in the room with the game console watches a DVD movie out of “my own personal library”, while someone else can utilize another Apple TV unit to send music into the garage while i work on my 60’s muscle car…. Oh. And just so I am clear… listening to music i paid for a long time ago and is in “my own personal library”… thats what a home entertainment controller and media center is…you said that already.
and it's not that I don't care about personal music, it's that the reality is ...the streaming music services have largely eliminated the idea of the personal music collection. I had a few hundred cds. Probably more than average. I have no need for them nor their digital versions. It's all on streaming.
ATV is the center of home theater/entertainment more that than ever overall. IT gives a person access to more music, tv, movies, photos, & games than ever before. So not really sure what you're talking about.
...except you want ATV to play your digital files is what it comes down to it seems. And that's fine to wish for that again...but I don't think that's the way forward. IT's a niche now. Apple not really the company to go serve niches.
And i will also reiterate… like you, i have 100’s if not thousands of CD’s digitized… both music and DVD video’s… old and current alike…. And guess what, if i don’t have it i could stream it/rent it from Apple TV… there is one problem… Apple TV lacks the tools it once had integrated with to manage those digital assets… it used to have them, and they were actually integrated with one and other and Apple TV… heck Apple TV used to use Front Row software to navigate the libraries, select what people wanted to do, etc…
Its not a niche… its Apple not wanting people to own their own digital assets or have control of them… and that is a perception many have besides me. They are now doing it with their hardware… soldering what typically used to be user replaceable parts to the logic boards now… including the internal storage… You may find it acceptable and think it is a niche, but its not… it actually is the way it started out and Apple pushed people to move and go in tha t direction, which also allowed the artists to gain financially and keep people from pirating their intellectual property… who wouldn’t pay $.99 for a guaranteed quality recording of a song?… So why the change of course for Apple? Thats not what Steve Jobs envisioned, but it make Apple a boatload of money and basically controls peoples digital assets… thats why so many people have migrated to the Plex multimedia server, runing it on a plethora of different hardware, such as NAS devices, Windows based PC’s, and Linux based boxes, and yes, even older Mac’s are being utilized to run a Plex server for serving up multimedia… Apple TV could, and i emphasize “could” be so much more and a much more elegant way of doing it that integrates smart home controls and monitoring, such as access to surveillance camera’s and other security devices… but its not.
And while you are correct, that Apple TV currently gives people access to music, tv, movies, photos, & games, it is primarily through Apples subscription services… all the while rebuffing and providing easy access to what they encouraged people to do not so long ago… (when Steve Jobs was still alive).
To each their own I say… with their opinions, feelings, likes and dislikes, and perceptions of things… and in this case for me, its Apple has once again given the middle finger to its consumers and core supporters… just like they are doing with their hardware… At the end of the day, I and others will find a way to do what we always wanted to do, we just won’t use Apple products to do it… such as Plex
My TV (LG) has Apple TV app and can mirror my iPhone/Mac. I think they will lean on other features like gaming etc.
No one is going to buy a $400-$500 Apple TV for streaming Netflix and YouTube.
No my TV is from 2016. It was a high end UHD 4K Samsung 65” and although it’s smart, does not have ATV and I haven’t check on Disney+ if that is available as an app. There are all the other apps though: Netflix, HBOMax, Hulu, Vudu, etc.
Is Apple strong enough - and Netflix vulnerable enough - these days for the former to require the latter to integrate into tvOS and the TV app? I actually dropped Netflix, and that lack of compatibility was a factor, for real. I chose, and I chose Apple over an expensive subscription that didn't show up conveniently in my OS.
Also maybe they could program something that could prevent so much unnecessary use of "damn" and "crap" in these threads and keep things classy and polite.
Also maybe they could program something that could prevent so much unnecessary use of "damn" and "crap" in these threads and keep things classy and polite.
It’s because 120 divides evenly to all formats. Thus frame rate switching/frame skipping becomes moot. 24, 30, 60, 120.
Eww, no thanks to streaming content @120Hz. As someone who paid well over $3k for a proper OLED, I don't want or need SoE ruining my viewing experience.
For the menus though, yes, that'd be great.