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New Claim of iOS 4.2 Launch on November 24th as Revised iPad Build Surfaces
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I suppose eCommerce is more complex than you are giving it credit for.
If you can build a platform that provides comprehensive frameworks and tools for things like extreme scalability, transaction handling, fulfillment, personalization, caching, web services, repositories, etc....and make it with only tens of thousands of LOC, then you should seriously do it.
While your application may actually be that complex, most e-Commerce applications on 99.9% of all websites are not (because 99.9% of all ecommerce websites easily excludes the 1,000 heaviest hitters)
Seems to me QC worked fine -- they caught whatever the problem was, fixed it, and I looks like they will still release on-time.
It's not an application. It's a platform on which to build applications. Just out of curiosity, which other eCommerce platforms are you familiar with and how many lines of code do they include? Since IBM WebSphere and BEA (now Oracle) Weblogic comprise the market share of eCommerce web applications, including many of the "heavy hitters", maybe you know their LOC count?
8C134 --> 8C134b
LOL. I'm a software developer and here when a particular release is slated to be the final build but something goes wrong at the last minute we add a letter to the build number, just like this. (It's some internal political thing -- once development has promised that X37 will be the final build we don't want fail to deliver... so we can claim that X37b is still X37 even though it's really X38.)
It's funny to see Apple doing the same thing. I wonder if it's for the same reason
Nope. B stands for booyah, fixed bitches. Haha
Yep. It did. The previous build, the GM build, shipped as Snow Leopard. The later build, I'm sure there was some or another reason for it, but it wasn't what shipped on discs and Macs to customers.
It need not have been in there more than few days or however long since the previous RC. It could have been introduced by another fix or tweak in the previous RC. That happens all the time. They touched something, didn't think it would touch anything else so called the next RC the GM. Turns out what they touched wasn't limited to what they thought they were touching.
In which case, they not only caught it but caught it almost immediately after releasing the GM build.
Once again, riding your high horse
Most websites do not run those products, unless the only ecommerce you consider to be ecommerce is companies with hundreds of millions in revenue.
Tens of thousands of ecommerce sites exist that do a few thousand a year up to a few million, and do NOT have backends powered by these products.
And look up the definition of application, I was not refering to your silly little applications sitting on your computer or your iPad. "What your application is" happens to be the statement version of the question "What is your application?"
8C134 --> 8C134b
LOL. I'm a software developer and here when a particular release is slated to be the final build but something goes wrong at the last minute we add a letter to the build number, just like this. (It's some internal political thing -- once development has promised that X37 will be the final build we don't want fail to deliver... so we can claim that X37b is still X37 even though it's really X38.)
It's funny to see Apple doing the same thing. I wonder if it's for the same reason
I once worked in QA as a tech writer for a VERY large developer of industry standard architectures, and pro and consumer software across a wide range of applications. We distributed GM1, GM2, GM3, GM4. All the time. ;-)
There are different versions of WiFi (802.11 a/b/g/n) as well as different encryption methods (WEP, WPA, WPA2, etc.) so it could be a connection method that you aren't using that is causing a problem.
Uh, sure. Anyway, are you still somehow trying to prove that an eCommerce platform can't contain millions of LOCs or are you just taking issue with anything I write? Just curious what your point is here.
My iPad has always had that issue on my friend's wifi network. It would say it was connected, but nothing would work. Only resetting the router would fix it, and only for a while. No other wifi devices had this problem, including my iPhone. I wonder if this will also be fixed now?
I don't see why anyone would be upset that they changed the GM seed. I'd much rather see them fix this before the final release, instead of coming out with 4.2.1 a week later. Sure non-devs have to wait longer, but realistically anyone can have 4.2 right now if they really want it, and know where to look.
I don't see why anyone would be upset that they changed the GM seed. I'd much rather see them fix this before the final release, instead of coming out with 4.2.1 a week later. Sure non-devs have to wait longer, but realistically anyone can have 4.2 right now if they really want it, and know where to look.
Really, you think thats the whole f*n point to this? To argue with you?
Show me an amazon.com and I can show you hundreds of small ecommerce stores that are... shocker... yes, considered ecommerce ..... and have no where close to the scope you are claiming
There are tens of thousands of sites that use small, open source e-commerce platforms or in-house platforms. I've worked on projects with both.
I am arguing with your assertion that ecommerce is in-fact complicated, it is not. Your last post came across as saying these tens or hundreds of thousands of sites aren't ecommerce because they don't have your level of sophistication.
Definitions of Application
noun
1. the act of putting to a special use or purpose: the application of common sense to a problem.
2. the special use or purpose to which something is put: a technology having numerous applications never thought of by its inventors.
3. the quality of being usable for a particular purpose or in a special way; relevance: This has no application to the case.
4. the act of requesting.
5. a written or spoken request or appeal for employment, admission, help, funds, etc.: to file an application for admission to a university.
6. a form to be filled out by an applicant, as for a job or a driver's license.
7. close attention; persistent effort: Application to one's studies is necessary.
8. an act or instance of spreading on, rubbing in, or bringing into contact: the application of a compress to a wound; a second application of varnish.
9. a salve, ointment, or the like, applied as a soothing or healing agent.
10. Computers .
a. a type of job or problem that lends itself to processing or solution by computer: Inventory control is a common business application.
b. application program.
Only 10b is an application program. Referring to the application of your code does not instantly mean I think you have an executable sitting around waiting to be double-clicked.
Nope, my assertion was only to suggest that if you think eCommerce platforms can't contain millions of LOCs then you're not aware of how complex they can be. I probably should have included the term "enterprise" somewhere. Honestly I couldn't care less.
Both of you cut it out. Just agree to disagree and move on.
FWIW, I don't have the WiFi issue on iOS 4.2 GM. I just spent a good half hour reconfiguring my network to test out all the possibilities, 802.11G single band with WEP, TKIP, AES, and TKIP+AES encryptions. And then 802.11N single band with those four encryption methods. And then dual band with both G and N and with those four encryption methods. Tedious to be sure but WiFi works just fine. I don't have A or B WiFi on my dual band Netgear router so I can't test those. Maybe the issue isn't simply a connection issue but over time the connection would degrade or simply cut out?
Oh, I forgot to list no encryption as one of the possbillities I tested. Not sure why anyone on this forum would do that because most of us know that no encryption on our WiFi networks is very risky and highly not recommended.
I did this on a clean iOS 4.2 GM restore. I didn't sync anything, just a clean OS with the default apps and didn't touch any of the settings except to type in WiFi passwords and toggle WiFi.
If you really want to speed up the process, mess around with your network settings if you are in a position to do so and find out what is causing the WiFi bug. Is it your encryption method, ISP, password typo, etc. Stop arguing about LOC and eCommerce systems. And if you are at work or some other place that is sensitive to you messing around with network settings, please DON'T do it. Only do this if you are at home and have about half an hour of extra time.
FWIW, I don't have the WiFi issue on iOS 4.2 GM. I just spent a good half hour reconfiguring my network to test out all the possibilities, 802.11G single band with WEP, TKIP, AES, and TKIP+AES encryptions. And then 802.11N single band with those four encryption methods. And then dual band with both G and N and with those four encryption methods. Tedious to be sure but WiFi works just fine. I don't have A or B WiFi on my dual band Netgear router so I can't test those. Maybe the issue isn't simply a connection issue but over time the connection would degrade or simply cut out?
Oh, I forgot to list no encryption as one of the possbillities I tested. Not sure why anyone on this forum would do that because most of us know that no encryption on our WiFi networks is very risky and highly not recommended.
I did this on a clean iOS 4.2 GM restore. I didn't sync anything, just a clean OS with the default apps and didn't touch any of the settings except to type in WiFi passwords and toggle WiFi.
If you really want to speed up the process, mess around with your network settings if you are in a position to do so and find out what is causing the WiFi bug. Is it your encryption method, ISP, password typo, etc. Stop arguing about LOC and eCommerce systems. And if you are at work or some other place that is sensitive to you messing around with network settings, please DON'T do it. Only do this if you are at home and have about half an hour of extra time.
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Not to be rude, but I'm really sick of sifting through post after post of 2-3 people just going back and forth with each other. I believe in everyone having an opinion but maybe keep it in private messages instead. The block feature also works fantastic.
Not to be rude, but I'm really sick of sifting through post after post of 2-3 people just going back and forth with each other. I believe in everyone having an opinion but maybe keep it in private messages instead.
The block feature also works fantastic.