New Dummy Video Gives Yet Another Look at Prospective iPhone 8 Design

[jasonklee]

Once again, what do people want? It's a rectangle with a screen. You want a foldable triangle or what? This is as far as it's going to go with phones.

I'm not sure where this prototype is from, but it seems like a really innovative design. I think iPhone design is super duper mega BORING. It needs fun and excitement. Not crap like Music Memos, Stocks, Podcasts, Health, live photos, 3D Touch, which offer no real value. Split screen mode would be AWESOME. Imagine watching a movie while taking notes in class. Super cool. The human mind was created to do multiple things at once.

But all these task-based interfaces and apps are just boring.

Question: Do you actually use even half of first-party apps by Apple? Yeah, didn't think so.

 

[jarman92]

Am I the only on who isn't impressed with the design? It lacks a wow factor. The Galaxy S8 has a significant wow factor and it's starting to look like iPhone won't be the best looking phone on the market soon...

What is/was “wow” about it? They made the screen ever so slightly taller, and sacrificed the home button in favor of a god-awful one on the back. The new iPhone has even less bezel and will (hopefully) be the first major phone with an integrated fingerprint scanner–that’s not “wow” for you, but a barely bigger screen is?
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Great - same shape as the last 3 years. Really going outside the box here, Apple.

Same shape?! I guess some people actually do want a folding triangle...
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Good God that camera hump is flipping awful!! Looks tacky and stuck on...

I hate to say it, but design wise in this shiny form, the Galaxy S8 looks better!!

Yeah it’s pretty bad. But I can’t imagine Apple would change to molding the camera bump from the housing in 2016 then change again to a separate piece in 2017. Guess we’ll just have to wait and see what happens...

 

[Vanilla35]

Actually it's 100% necessary. It's in fact impossible to go horizontal with what they are placing inside the phone and the width of the phone. The face of the device now has a speaker hole, 2 cameras, 2 3D image sensors, ambient and proximity sensors, and an infrared light. The rear camera module can only physically go vertical.
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The iPhone is symmetrical. You will never see the cutout except in certain light when the phone display is turned off.

The top and bottom of the iPhone will be black display. They will be 90% turned off pixels at all times when the display is turned on. To the user it will look 100% symmetrical at all times, always.

They could arrange those sensors on the front differently then, or they could place it below the top corner, which other companies have done before. Maybe drop it 1 inch from the top, and place it in the middle. Either way I agree it'll probably be uglier than what they have set up right now.

The iPhone is symmetrical. You will never see the cutout except in certain light when the phone display is turned off.

The top and bottom of the iPhone will be black display. They will be 90% turned off pixels at all times when the display is turned on. To the user it will look 100% symmetrical at all times, always.

Don't get your hopes up about that buddy

 

[Crzyrio]

I'm not sure where this prototype is from, but it seems like a really innovative design. I think iPhone design is super duper mega BORING. It needs fun and excitement. Not crap like Music Memos, Stocks, Podcasts, Health, live photos, 3D Touch, which offer no real value. Split screen mode would be AWESOME. Imagine watching a movie while taking notes in class. Super cool. The human mind was created to do multiple things at once.

But all these task-based interfaces and apps are just boring.

Question: Do you actually use even half of first-party apps by Apple? Yeah, didn't think so.

I use all the apps you mentioned and more

 

[9594864]

Great - same shape as the last 3 years. Really going outside the box here, Apple.

I suggest you get used to the design because it will be essentially the same forevermore.

 

[jarman92]

This is a truly lovely impression of what the next iPhone may look like. The making of it for me is the beautiful drop portion on the front for the various cameras, the Black steel surround, and of course, the Touch ID under the screen. The only possible aspect that would greatly disappoint me is the continuing presence of lightning charging according to earlier speculation today. What a shame that would be, in my opinion.

It will absolutely have a Lightning port. Apple created Lightning specifically for their phones just 5 years ago, no way will they switch to USB-C so soon and on such a massive release.

 

[AbSoluTc]

Good God that camera hump is flipping awful!! Looks tacky and stuck on...

I hate to say it, but design wise in this shiny form, the Galaxy S8 looks better!!

Camera bump or thicker phone. People while whine about either one. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Doesn't bother me any.

 

[jarman92]

That’s a better design overall, especially with the symmetrical front.

Except for the atrocious placement of the fingerprint scanner...

 

[Vanilla35]

The human mind was created to do multiple things at once.

But all these task-based interfaces and apps are just boring.

Pretty sure that theory has been debunked several times over. Doing multiple things at once ends up being less effective, and also burdensome to the mind

 

[JPLC]

That's 3 minutes and 58 seconds I will never get back.

+ 1 minute for posting a comment and reading my reply.

 

[marconiusrex]

We've seen countless renderings, dummy models, and design leaks that give us a decent idea of what we can expect the "iPhone 8" to look like, but OnLeaks and Tiger Mobiles have teamed up on a new video that perhaps gives us the clearest look yet at the iPhone 8's design based on current rumors.

The video features an iPhone 8 dummy model with an edge-to-edge display, a top bar that will accommodate the front-facing camera and sensors, a vertical dual-lens rear camera, and a glossy black chassis made from glass with a matching and indistinguishable steel band around the edges.

This new dummy model is similar to previous dummy models that we've seen, and it is in line with rumors and design drawings that have suggested the iPhone 8 will feature a slim, almost bezel-free design with a Touch ID fingerprint sensor built into the display of the device.

It measures in at 71mm wide, 144mm long, and 7.5mm thick, which matches up with previous size estimates we've seen leaked. For comparison's sake, the iPhone 7 measures in at 67.1mm wide, 138.3mm long, and 7.1mm thick. The new device, if the dummy models and other rumors are correct, will be similar in size to the iPhone 7, but will have a display that is similar in size to the iPhone 7 Plus display.

Dummy models are often constructed by case makers and other accessory manufacturers based on rumors and leaks coming out of the supply chain. Case makers use dummy models to create cases ahead of an iPhone's launch to be first on the market with accessories. In past years, these dummy models have been largely accurate, but there are, on occasion, design discrepancies.

When it comes to the iPhone 8, Apple was originally said to be working with up to 10 prototypes, including one with a rear Touch ID button, making it hard to pinpoint a design. Much of the recent leaked information has centered on a design similar to the device in the video, and it's looking more and more like that's the design we'll see in the finished device when it launches this fall.

Rumors, blueprints, and dummy devices can often be confirmed with myriad part leaks, but we're seeing relatively few part leaks this year, so there's still some uncertainty. So far, we've only seen alleged front and rear panels, featuring no visible Home button, an edge-to-edge display design, and a vertical dual-lens rear camera.

Beyond what's visible, we've heard a whole slew of rumors about the iPhone 8, with details ranging from wireless charging to impressive 3D sensing and facial recognition capabilities for the front-facing camera. For a complete picture of what to expect, make sure to check out our roundup.

Article Link: New Dummy Video Gives Yet Another Look at Prospective iPhone 8 Design

Oh I hope that's not it....complete snooze fest I'm tired of the iPhone 6/7 body design.

 

[9594864]

What is/was “wow” about it? They made the screen ever so slightly taller, and sacrificed the home button in favor of a god-awful one on the back. The new iPhone has even less bezel and will (hopefully) be the first major phone with an integrated fingerprint scanner–that’s not “wow” for you, but a barely bigger screen is?
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Same shape?! I guess some people actually do want a folding triangle...
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Yeah it’s pretty bad. But I can’t imagine Apple would change to molding the camera bump from the housing in 2016 then change again to a separate piece in 2017. Guess we’ll just have to wait and see what happens...

Two things:

I agree on your assessment of the Galaxy S8, and I'll add that the S8 in a way, lost face real estate despite the overall net gain. People don't notice this apparently, but the physical home button sat lower on the face of the S7, than does the virtual home button sit on the S8, therein the S7 technically had a superior lower face (except when the S8 uses the full display for video). The S8 also curves the edges and corners of the display which are both detrimental to the design. If they didn't do this, and placed the fingerprint sensor in the display then I would say the S8 is unequivocally amazing, but that's not the case.

Secondly, concerning Apple making the camera protrusion uni-body on this device, I agree, it would be superior from an aesthetic perspective, however, this device has a glass back which may have tested poorly as a glass protrusion, and therefore they needed to make the protrusion itself stainless steel, separating it from the glass back. Unfortunately, and undeniably, a singular piece looks far superior, but it comes down to a compromise as always. When you look at the iPhone 6 and 6s, the camera protrusion being a separate piece was, in my opinion, a necessity due to the antenna bands rather than a design which they made better. I believe they would have made it a unibody design like the 7 series, but couldn't due to the antenna band. So looking at the 2017 iPhones, I believe if they turn out not to be part of the glass, it's due to the brittleness of the protrusion rather than what is immediately perceived as idiotic design.
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They could arrange those sensors on the front differently then, or they could place it below the top corner, which other companies have done before. Maybe drop it 1 inch from the top, and place it in the middle. Either way I agree it'll probably be uglier than what they have set up right now.



Don't get your hopes up about that buddy

They can't arrange the sensors on the front differently, they're specifically designed to be as central as the possibly can be so the display can swoop beside them on both sides. The camera module cannot be moved lower because one may cover the lens with they hand more easily and the logic board goes there, where it couldn't be split and placed where the camera module currently is.


The picture you posted is a mockup. It is not accurate. In fact that leaker agreed with my view on what the device will be on twitter.

 

[SteveW928]

Gosh, if that's accurate, that camera bump is UGLY! iPhones are too thin anyway, so why not just make it thick enough not to have an ugly bump? I'm sure the vast majority of users would love the extended battery life. Someone needs to put Ive into some kind of tech-anorexia recovery program.

 

[jasonklee]

You know something is terribly wrong at Apple when MacRumors members know industrial design better than Richard Howarth's pathetic Industrial Design group. Not sure why such an elite team of designers insist on having that ugly camera bump. Just don't have on there. Simple. And make the camera a single lens. Also pondering why they can't just put the FaceTime camera and earpiece behind the screen. It seems so easy.

 

[Vanilla35]

Two things:

I agree on your assessment of the Galaxy S8, and I'll add that the S8 in a way, lost face real estate despite the overall net gain. People don't notice this apparently, but the physical home button sat lower on the face of the S7, than does the virtual home button sit on the S8, therein the S7 technically had a superior lower face (except when the S8 uses the full display for video). The S8 also curves the edges and corners of the display which are both detrimental to the design. If they didn't do this, and placed the fingerprint sensor in the display then I would say the S8 is unequivocally amazing, but that's not the case.

Secondly, concerning Apple making the camera protrusion uni-body on this device, I agree, it would be superior from an aesthetic perspective, however, this device has a glass back which may have tested poorly as a glass protrusion, and therefore they needed to make the protrusion itself stainless steel, separating it from the glass back. Unfortunately, and undeniably, a singular piece looks far superior, but it comes down to a compromise as always. When you look at the iPhone 6 and 6s, the camera protrusion being a separate piece was, in my opinion, a necessity due to the antenna bands rather than a design which they made better. I believe they would have made it a unibody design like the 7 series, but couldn't due to the antenna band. So looking at the 2017 iPhones, I believe if they turn out not to be part of the glass, it's due to the brittleness of the protrusion rather than what is immediately perceived as idiotic design.
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They can't arrange the sensors on the front differently, they're specifically designed to be as central as the possibly can be so the display can swoop beside them on both sides. The camera module cannot be moved lower because one may cover the lens with they hand more easily and the logic board goes there, where it couldn't be split and placed where the camera module currently is.


The picture you posted is a mockup. It is not accurate. In fact that leaker agreed with my view on what the device will be on twitter.

Seem like excuses to me. Also, the point of the pictures are to show that it won't necessarily blend to the point where it will be impossible to tell there's a bezel whatsoever. Symmetry will be contrived.

 

[adnbek]

I love watching armchair designers with delusions of grandeur giving out advice no one asked for. Where's the popcorn?

 

[griz]

They can hide touch ID behind the screen but they can't do something about that fugly vertical camera bulge on the back?

 

[adnbek]

Also pondering why they can't just put the FaceTime camera and earpiece behind the screen. It seems so easy.

Show us how it's done.

 

[BPresh]

honestly im not even excited anymore
its turning into an android spec race phone, with iOS installed.

say what you want about iphones circa 2008-2011 'lagging' in specs, features etc relative to their android counterparts... those phones had sex appeal to them.

this just looks and feels like a nerd's toy. 'edge to edge display'. big deal.

this is why ipad pros suck. 'keyboard cover'...stylus...big deal. it sucks.
sure, theyre technical marvels....but who actually wants one?

I'll need a new phone this fall. I'll get whatever iOS phone is $600.

Your overly negative comment doesn't make sense using your own established logic.

You say you prioritize "sexiness" of a device (over features and performance, I guess?), saying the 2008-2011 "sex appeal" iPhones are better than this concept/leaked phone. In other words, you literally just said the comparatively fat, also rounded iPhone 3G and 3GS with PLASTIC backs are the anti-"nerd's toy" compared to an all-black iPhone 8 made entirely of glass and presumably DLC-coated stainless steel. Further, even as you apparently laud form over function, you completely dismiss an edge-to-edge screen (something that represents both form and function, for the record) in favor of two phone models that featured huge, albeit symmetrical, bezels.

Don't get me wrong. I don't at all think the phones you referenced ware ugly and I enjoy their aesthetic, too, but your complaints here don't really make any sense. You're either a parody poster or you have no idea what you want. You also say iPads suck but are completely incapable of giving a reason as to why. "Sure, they have all this great stuff, but big deal! They suck!"

Color me confused.

 

[adnbek]

I'm not sure where this prototype is from, but it seems like a really innovative design.

I think you're confusing "innovative" with "different". Sorry but that ain't any more innovative than this.

In other words... not.

 

[BPresh]

Am I the only on who isn't impressed with the design? It lacks a wow factor. The Galaxy S8 has a significant wow factor and it's starting to look like iPhone won't be the best looking phone on the market soon...

I don't get it. What possibly is the wow factor (looks-wise) that the S8 has that the iPhone doesn't? More bezel?

 

[9594864]

Seem like excuses to me. Also, the point of the pictures are to show that it won't necessarily blend to the point where it will be impossible to tell there's a bezel whatsoever. Symmetry will be contrived.

Those mock ups are not even remotely like the real physical device in terms of differentiation between the cutout and the display. Moreover, I would predict that Apple is specifically going to attempt to match the level of blackness of the bezel with the display. In other words, they'll attempt to make the amount of reflected light from the physical bezel, close to that of the display, so they are extremely similar no matter what light or angle they are viewed from.

The OLED display of course produces pure blacks due to simply shutting the pixels off and then the blackness is dictated by how much light is reflected off the display. It of course absorbs most light just like the black bezel does. The trick is to try to get the black bezel to match the level of reflectance. Presently on the Apple Watch for example, if you're in the right light, you can see the display pretty distinctly, and that is because the black bezel material absorbs more light, so the question is, can Apple make the black bezel absorb a more similar level, therein making the cutout invisible in any light.

 

[Vanilla35]

Those mock ups are not even remotely like the real physical device in terms of differentiation between the cutout and the display. Moreover, I would predict that Apple is specifically going to attempt to match the level of blackness of the bezel with the display. In other words, they'll attempt to make the amount of reflected light from the physical bezel, close to that of the display, so they are extremely similar no matter what light or angle they are viewed from.

The OLED display of course produces pure blacks due to simply shutting the pixels off and then the blackness is dictated by how much light is reflected off the display. It of course absorbs most light just like the black bezel does. The trick is to try to get the black bezel to match the level of reflectance. Presently on the Apple Watch for example, if you're in the right light, you can see the display pretty distinctly, and that is because the black bezel material absorbs more light, so the question is, can Apple make the black bezel absorb a more similar level, therein making the cutout invisible in any light.

You do realize how ridiculous that sounds, right? I get that they will try to match it (obviously they're not going to put glossy bezel in there), but they can't change the way the display reflects light vs. plastic. They're different materials, and will reflect differently in different environments. If they attempt to tailor it to match perfectly for indoor use, then it will not match perfectly for direct sunlight in outdoor environments, and vice versa. You're just completely making crap up.

 

[zemaker]

The iPhone is symmetrical. You will never see the cutout except in certain light when the phone display is turned off.

The top and bottom of the iPhone will be black display. They will be 90% turned off pixels at all times when the display is turned on. To the user it will look 100% symmetrical at all times, always.

Simply not true, see here:

 

[Vanilla35]

Simply not true, see here:

Late to the game bro, see post #80:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-iphone-8-design.2053982/page-4#post-24749689

I posted the same exact thing