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A front facing camera on the iPhone but not the iPad? That's why i don't believe it's the next iPhone.

Makes total sense to have a camera on this phone and not on the iPad. Remember, they have to make the iPhone more compelling to buy. I'm betting that the new iPhone DOES have a front camera.
 
gimme a break. Found on the floor of a bar? Apple covers prototypes with black sheets *in the lab* and you think they're going to let one off the cupertino campus to get lost on the floor of a bar? c'mon. Why are we even discussing this?
 
gimme a break. Found on the floor of a bar? Apple covers prototypes with black sheets *in the lab* and you think they're going to let one off the cupertino campus to get lost on the floor of a bar? c'mon. Why are we even discussing this?
I think because Engadget seems so convinced it's the real deal. I don't know whether or not they'd risk getting egg on their face just for some short-term hits to their blog. Meh, we'll see in a couple of months, I guess.
 
I don't think so the pictures were first reveal the night before the iPad and were proven true.

It's always possible apple is leaking images... I mean if no one is talking about you then your not famous right? So it might be apples way to get press.

Hmmm, how about these pictures?

01-27-10apptabside2.jpg


These are from the same source as the picture where the iPhone 4G can be seen, and they were released at the same time, the night before the iPad was unveiled. After seeing the actual iPad and the Maps application, you still doubt that these pictures were real?
 
I for one think this is complete Engadget publicity prank to drive people to their site and to get exposure. They are rumor mongering morons whose advertisers are salivating at the numbers of hits this kind of thing generates.

I think Macrumors is following in this flight of fancy by promoting this by even giving them the time of day in something that is so clearly nonsense.

FFS, it's not a prank. The iPad photo is legit. The found item was working until Apple wiped it. You can better believe Engadget (or someone else) is working like hell to get more info and Apple is working like hell to track that thing down.

Funny how you can go off on Engadget (a site that produces original content) but not on a news aggregator (like this site) that exists purely to generate ad revenue (and make it convenient to find Mac-related news).
 
Won't be a C&D-no basis for it. No one is violating Apple's copyrights or trademarks.

The basis would be publishing trade secrets, and possible missapropriation of these--don't really buy the bar story. But regardless of how they obtained them, they can't publish them.*

Doubt Apple will send a C&D but i those are indeed real they'd have every right to.*
 
A simple way to end this, what chip is it using?

Take that sucker apart, if you don't see a Apple a4 processor then I believe it might be a fake. I strongly believe there is very little chance that Apple would release another portable device that wasn't using that new amazing chip that uses so little power.

If it doesn't have the a4 chip there is another possibility, that possibility is this is the iPhone that never was and will never be. This might be a iPhone prototype that didn't make release. That is a bummer because it has some nicer stuff that the current released phone doesn't

I think the lack of dissection pictures might suggest this entire thing is bogus. If I had that phone it would be taken apart and on the web.

I agree on the style of this rumored phone, not very sleek. :apple:
 
The basis would be publishing trade secrets, and possible missapropriation of these--don't really buy the bar story. But regardless of how they obtained them, they can't publish them.*

Doubt Apple will send a C&D but i those are indeed real they'd have every right to.*

Um, no - you're as wrong as wrong can be. And cmaier knows what the f**k he's talking about. Making a phone isn't a trade secret.

Apple can claim it is their property, but it was hardly stolen. Any legal liability lies with the employee who screwed up.

Take that sucker apart, if you don't see a Apple a4 processor then I believe it might be a fake.

I would not be shocked if Engadget is on the phone with attorneys to see what the repercussions would be to tearing it apart. It isn't stolen, but it's hard to say that they "didn't know" it was Apple property.
 
so if the new iphone takes microsim cards, will you be able to switch back and forth between it and your ipad 3g for data?
 
The basis would be publishing trade secrets, and possible missapropriation of these--don't really buy the bar story. But regardless of how they obtained them, they can't publish them.*

Doubt Apple will send a C&D but i those are indeed real they'd have every right to.*

Can't be a trade secret if they didn't take reasonable steps to protect it. Giving it to folks to flash in a bar doesn't seem like a reasonable manner of protecting a trade secret to me. Further, it's not misappropriated. Supreme Court in Kewanee Oil Co. v. Bicron Corp., 416 U.S. 470 (1974): "discovery by fair and honest means, such as by independent invention, accidental disclosure, or by so-called reverse engineering" is not misappropriation.
 
I would have that found phone all sorts of apart first thing...

Um, no - you're as wrong as wrong can be. And cmaier knows what the f**k he's talking about. Making a phone isn't a trade secret.

Apple can claim it is their property, but it was hardly stolen. Any legal liability lies with the employee who screwed up.



I would not be shocked if Engadget is on the phone with attorneys to see what the repercussions would be to tearing it apart. It isn't stolen, but it's hard to say that they "didn't know" it was Apple property.

Like I said earlier, I would have taken that phone apart ASAP to find the CPU unit to see if it a Apple chip, the phone is not booting up... take it apart already! .. the whole thing is a bit fishy.
 
Can't be a trade secret if they didn't take reasonable steps to protect it. Giving it to folks to flash in a bar doesn't seem like a reasonable manner of protecting a trade secret to me.

I believe the prototype in the photo is indeed real and that some people outside of Apple have it in their possession, but the more I think about it, the more I think that this whole "found in a bar" part of the story is simply not true and was invented to cover how the device was really obtained (probably stolen and resold to those who have it now).
 
I would not be shocked if Engadget is on the phone with attorneys to see what the repercussions would be to tearing it apart. It isn't stolen, but it's hard to say that they "didn't know" it was Apple property.
How would they even get their hands on it? I thought the person who found it was charging anyone who wanted to just see it?
 
I have to say I do indeed like the design I think it would end up having. That's because Apple would never have seems like that in a final product, and I could never see Apple putting hideous volume buttons on the next iPhone. This does look better though, and I'd be happy with a polished version of this, no doubt.
 
I believe the prototype in the photo is indeed real and that some people outside of Apple have it in their possession, but the more I think about it, the more I think that this whole "found in a bar" part of the story is simply not true and was invented to cover how the device was really obtained (probably stolen and resold to those who have it now).

Then we could expect a C&D. However, I really believe it was found in a bar. Not sure how the person who lost it got it, but Apple engineers would definitely be found in San Jose bars, and drunk people really do lose things.
 
How would they even get their hands on it? I thought the person who found it was charging anyone who wanted to just see it?

So you're saying they shouldn't even try? I didn't say they will, I said you can bet they are trying.

Anyways.... cmaier deserves one of these for these two threads:
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It may be a real prototype, but I can't see it being the finished production version. I just can't see Apple releasing something that square and bulky, removable battery, and those fugly seams and buttons.
 
gimme a break. Found on the floor of a bar? Apple covers prototypes with black sheets *in the lab* and you think they're going to let one off the cupertino campus to get lost on the floor of a bar? c'mon. Why are we even discussing this?

just like when a guy lost a prototype iphone and committed suicide cause of it?

people have them outside of apple. tho it seems this guy had a bad night got drunk and lost it.
 
Hmmm, how about these pictures?

01-27-10apptabside2.jpg


These are from the same source as the picture where the iPhone 4G can be seen, and they were released at the same time, the night before the iPad was unveiled. After seeing the actual iPad and the Maps application, you still doubt that these pictures were real?

wow i just realized its a 3g ipad! (the left one)
 
just like when a guy lost a prototype iphone and committed suicide cause of it?

people have them outside of apple. tho it seems this guy had a bad night got drunk and lost it.

And I'm sure he'll be unemployed shortly, if he was an Apple employee. I guess he could work for some software developer - I hear some key developers get early prototypes, and I suspect they aren't held to the same secrecy restraints (locked windowless rooms, etc) that applied for iPad.
 
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