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I think there's 2 camps. Those who grip a mouse like they are rock climbing (ie: PC gaming mouses), and those who hold it between their thumb and ring finger. I'm in the second camp. While the edges probably don't need to be a sharp angle, I think ergonomic wise it's fine, especially considering the touch part.

Maybe that is my problem. Coming from PC gaming, I grip it like you would expect.
 
The reason they're sticking with a 5400 RPM mechanical HDD is because they're bounded by both cost and minimum capacity. A 1TB HDD at retail costs about $50. A 1TB SSD at retail is in the neighborhood of $350. If they replaced the 1TB HDD for a 1TB SSD, prices would go up quite a bit ("LOL APPLE SO OVERPRICED"). If they replace the 1TB HDD with something more comparable in price, like a 256GB SSD they'll likewise be criticized heavily ("WTF APPLE WHY YOU TAKE AWAY MY GIGS IT'S 2015 WE NEED 1TB AT LEAST").

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

The significant comparison would be 5400 vs 7200. A 7200 spinner is a tolerable device for most people.

http://www.amazon.com/HGST-Travelst...F8&qid=1444776116&sr=8-14&keywords=2.5"+drive

http://www.amazon.com/HGST-Travelst...F8&qid=1444776116&sr=8-15&keywords=2.5"+drive

Same manufacturer, same capacity. About $22 price difference in everyday consumer retail price. Apple's paying less, of course, which also means the differential would be less.
 
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Is nobody aware that the larger a hard drive is, the less important the RPM's are? Oh wait, I forgot where I am...lots of people who know less than they think they do.

I've been aware for years that people say that, but I've never seen any of the posters who claim that actually provide any links to actual tests. Do you have any? I'll read the tests with interest.
 
24 GB for the OS and apps sounds about right, but it kind of defeats the purpose of having a fusion drive.
 
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I am still happy with my late 2013 non retina iMac in my signature. I hope in the next few years they expand on the HDD capacity and Video Memory and change the design. At the moment I see no point changing my machine, apart for the retina display.
 
I have a 2014 Retina iMac. I can't believe that I'm now tempted to buy a Windows machine. But I am. This is ridiculous. Are there actually engineers working at Apple these days, or just bean counters? Oh, yeah, Tim Cook. Forgot. Rock Apple Watch, yeah!
 
The port on the bottom of the mouse isn't much of an issue. If your battery dies (your computer gives you ample warning - it's not like the battery will go from 20% to 0% instantaneously), turn your mouse over, and charge it for a minute or two while you take a break - stand up, use the restroom, go to lunch, get a drink, catch up with a colleague, use your imagination. Then, when you leave for the day (or go to bed), plug it in an charge overnight. It takes less time than turning your mouse over to replace the dead batteries if you have to hunt for batteries and doesn't take much longer than changing them if you have replacements ready.

I'd get a craft beer. No problem waiting ;)
 
Is nobody aware that the larger a hard drive is, the less important the RPM's are? Oh wait, I forgot where I am...lots of people who know less than they think they do.

For serial reads, maybe, but track to track and especially random access is going to kill a 5400 rpm drive. This goes doubly true for a an operating system that is more and more based on the presumption that random access is as fast as serial due to the fact that ssd and pcie storage dominate its lineup.
 
This forum is full of conjecture regarding what Steve Jobs would or would not do if he were still here.

I'll say this though.. I don't think Macs would be using HDD if he were here. Steve made sure that Apple was the early adopter of computer companies; to the point many people complained about it. All the Mickey Mouse penny pinching moves weren't his style.

Steve Jobs would say if it's too expensive for you, buy something else.


"This forum is full of conjecture regarding what Steve Jobs would or would not do if he were still here."

And then you finish up by saying..... "Steve Jobs would say if it's too expensive for you, buy something else"
Recognize what you did there?
 
The iMac Then and Now Page is interesting in that they are comparing hardware specs from then and now, which has never been Apple's main focus. They're not the ones responsible for making better display panels, processors, etc. If anything they were more involved in Mac processor development with the original iMac in that Apple was part of the original team that developed PowerPC processors.

What Apple has brought to the table is software. You can see the bondi iMac is running OS 9 and the new one is running El Capitan. Interesting they didn't highlight those changes more. I guess they're harder to quantify, but software is what has sustained Apple.
 
The iMac Then and Now Page is interesting in that they are comparing hardware specs from then and now, which has never been Apple's main focus. They're not the ones responsible for making better display panels, processors, etc. If anything they were more involved in Mac processor development with the original iMac in that Apple was part of the original team that developed PowerPC processors.

What Apple has brought to the table is software. You can see the bondi iMac is running OS 9 and the new one is running El Capitan. Interesting they didn't highlight those changes more. I guess they're harder to quantify, but software is what has sustained Apple.

That's a good point. I wonder how many other computer companies have had a computer model that lasted 26 years? I can't think of any.
 
Anyone consider that the 5400RPM hard drive is probably a 2.5" one that you would find in a laptop? I wonder if 72000 RPM drives are louder and vibrate more and caused the already pencil thin display to vibrate. Also it could be a heat issue. I think ifixit will probably figure it out pretty quick.

I wouldn't ever go for that model regardless. SSD all the way baby!
 
Tim is now into vacumning up every dollar he can. Wallstreet and a certain billionaire were making his life miserable and it is apparent he likes to be loved.

Remember, before he made that Faustian deal with Wallstreet he was into Improving the consumer experience like Disney before all the ticket price increases. He needs to let the pendulum swing back half the other way. He can always increase the dividend if he wants more Wallstreet love. He must make Apple products cutting edge again ( at the premium price of course!) People need to feel that if they walk into an Apple store they are getting the state of the art computer or phone without researching. Things like low ram in phones and computers, slow spinning harddrives instead of SSD's , Intel chips a generation behind are only burning up goodwill which takes years to earn back.

Tim throw the dog a bone.
 
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I would consider the keyboard if it was backlit.

But it's not. And as a bonus, still forces (useless) Lightning cables while they already could do USB-C.
 
My neighbor worked in the same IBM building with Tim many years ago on the east coast. Tim should have but didn't spend 2 years in the IBM Service division. In fact it was the Service division that has saved IBM during their recent lean years. Here you learn about customer relationships, keeping the customer happy and returning to buy more, goodwill and give a little to get a little or you scratch my back ...

A customer should not feel like you are turning them upside down and shaking every last dollar out of their pockets. They are to be valued so you don't lose them. A happy cutomer is one who returns again and again. It is the gap in his IBM education.

Once you have a customer you should have them for their entire life.
 
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Times have changed.

and the older Mac was easy on the eyes too...

Now we have Retina, and more pixels on-screen than ever, u *need* to take a break, vs "i can compute on this all day long 24/7" or fit for accessories to assist.

Not anymore my level headed friend..

On the up shot we do have sharper graphics/text, but if nothing ever changed over 17 years i'd be shocked too
 
Wow, so much whining over a 5400rpm drive. And I thought Apple users understood that it's not always about specs.

Here's a YouTube video that should explain why 7200 drives aren't always faster and how 5400 drives aren't without its benefits...
 
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Once you have a customer you should have them for their entire life.

the average apple customer in 2015 will buy just about literally anything that comes out of cupertino that has a fruit logo on it. while i agree with your sentiment, the fact is the buying public couldnt care less. they can get onto instagram and look cool and that's about all that matters. that is apple's primary demographic now.

why is anyone surprised by this at all? This is the company that bought Beats, quite possibly the most overhyped company in the history of marketing. this is par for the course for them. you can expect this trend to continue probably forever, or until somebody one-ups them and they're no longer cool anymore.
 
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