New iPad Pro Models May Be Prone to Bending

[Nuvi]

It’s bending way too easy. Comparing it with old iPad bending videos (

), the new iPad Pro is bending like a dry cracker.

I really really wanted to buy the new 12.9 model but now I think I’ll stick with my old trusty small iPad Pro. Having a large iPad would be great but if I can’t transport it without worrying about it bending then I’ll definitely skip it.

 

[MultiMan]

It’s bending way too easy. Comparing it with old iPad bending videos (

), the new iPad Pro is bending like a dry cracker.

I really really wanted to buy the new 12.9 model but now I think I’ll stick with my old trusty small iPad Pro. Having a large iPad would be great but if I can’t transport it without worrying about it bending then I’ll definitely skip it.

Apple obviously doesn't care about making product for everyday use anymore. The difference to the Air 2 is staggering. I really don't understand how so many can defend Apple making products that have no sturdiness whatsoever.

Perhaps it is true that Apple are on the way becoming a Boutique brand as some have said. Very expensive products for a select few who will treat them like their baby chihuahua. Certainly not inline with how Apple became so big in my little country. They made affordable and long lasting products that even a 2 year old could use without breaking it.

 

[9081094]

It’s bending way too easy. Comparing it with old iPad bending videos (

), the new iPad Pro is bending like a dry cracker.

I really really wanted to buy the new 12.9 model but now I think I’ll stick with my old trusty small iPad Pro. Having a large iPad would be great but if I can’t transport it without worrying about it bending then I’ll definitely skip it.

Thanks for the video! Every new generation of the iPad should've learned from the mistakes an omissions from earlier models. Bending isn't new to Apple and I'm really wondering if they already aware of this issue before releasing the product. If not... Quality and Control is a big issue at Apple, if they are aware they should really be ashamed releasing it.

They aren't ashamed to up the price a few $ 100, but a miser to ad a few dollars for better aluminium and real sapphire.

I can only hope people starting to realize that enough is enough and starting to vote with their wallets. That's the only aspect Apple is listening to today. How a much regarded quality company like Apple has lost its mojo so fast this last 8 years (personal opinion).

Every year I have hope they start producing products which are competitive (=more compelling) and high(er) quality (than their competitors) (what you expect from a premium brand). Every year I'm getting more disappointed by the neglect of their product lines in hard- and software. The only thing that is up is the price.

Remember the iMac turn the tide for Apple? It came with the rip, mix and burn campaign and offered speed, ease of use and iTunes, imovie, iDVD, iWork... it was more expensive than the competition but offered enough to justify the price hike.

Today their hardware specs are mediocre at least. The OS and software see only very incremental updates.

I always hated Microsoft Windows but I've to give them credit, where credit is due! Windows has come from far and is in many ways superior to MacOS today. Even the Surface is a better replacement for your laptop.

Although Apple still makes nice computers, phones and tablets they're getting further behind by the day. A company 10x the size it was in the past with (in comparison) very little products to focus on, should be able to produce state of the art technology. At least have the latest technology inside their premium products and state of the art software.

That was the company I admired in the past! Not the nickel and dime bling bling shop it is getting today!

 

[bleak7]

*Device costs premium price*
*People carry a mobile electronic device in a backpack*
*Device bends just by sitting in the backpack*
*Others blame the user for carrying the device that is meant to be carried*
*Device is shown being way to fragile*
*Nah, still user fault, or "Well the day to day user won't bla bla" , or "Mine doesn't do that, so it's not a problem that exists"*

This is why next year you'll have the same weak structure devices starting at 2k bucks, because people keep defending this crap. And when sales drop you can blame it on the user, again. It's flat-earth conspiracy heights of self awareness.

 

[kentsydney]

After seeing the videos and there are a few now I’m definitely not getting one.

Yes it’s a superb piece of technology and I will always be an Apple fan.

But this is ridiculous it bends SO easily it seems - there is no effort needed to seriously distort it.

I’m not going to pay from $1200 for a piece of aluminium foil surrounding the ellectrinics

I had trouble with my iPhone 6 Plus with touch disease and was without a phone for 6 weeks after Apple ordered me a 6s plus

How could this happen ? Did they not realise that people would make videos of people trying to bend it.

I’ll wait until they fix it.

 

[Bacillus]

What brilliant logic. Apple can make their products more and more fragile and all they have to do is charge more and more money for them.
Expensive should mean quality not fragility.

Your last remark made me thinking.
Of course there is an exception to that - which is...jewellery.
Coincidentally, iPad product design is in the hands of an overglorified, narcist, selfhailed man with some derailment that we, overpaying customers, possibly co-created ourselves.
Living under the impression that he’s the walking improved version of the Lord himself, he probably assumed that with iPad, he created a form of jewellery in its sincerest fragile beauty.
He will only turn away his head in awe when seeing some sadist idiots slashing His Creations to the shady concrete floor of some obscure, anonymous garage.
And who would not ?
Prepare this situation to endure until His actual passing over to Heaven - which btw might be the greatest deception he’ll ever encounter, designwise.

 

[Wanted797]

I’m sure Lou will have a lot to say about this.

 

[Gudi]

It’s aluminum not glass. If you bend it, it will deform. I would gladly swap my iPad Air 2 with a broken display for one that has a little curve.

Instead of foldable phones Samsung should use bendable displays to create a tablet than can be rolled like a newspaper without breaking.

 

[9081094]

Your last remark made me thinking.
Of course there is an exception to that - which is...jewellery.
Coincidentally, iPad product design is in the hands of an overglorified, narcist, selfhailed man with some derailment that we, overpaying customers, possibly co-created ourselves.
Living under the impression that he’s the walking improved version of the Lord himself, he probably assumed that with iPad, he created a form of jewellery in its sincerest fragile beauty.
He will only turn away his head in awe when seeing some sadist idiots slashing His Creations to the shady concrete floor of some obscure, anonymous garage.
And who would not ?
Prepare this situation to endure until His actual passing over to Heaven - which btw might be the greatest deception he’ll ever encounter, designwise.

Lol, you should write columns. I can't say what you write isn't true but you can write with an extreme flair rarely seen. This was meant as a compliment and maybe Apple should hire you for their next product introduction . With that skill of writing, you would be able to turn the tides at Apple and the next iPad Pro would sell like crazy even as it was only a piece of paper with an Apple logo on it. You are able to justify the $ 200 price increase it will get

 

[H2SO4]

It's 10x more hilarious every time someone says this. Especially because that's not even a real quote.

"Just avoid holding it in that way". What's the difference, I mean in real terms?

 

[Donoban]

What brilliant logic. Apple can make their products more and more fragile and all they have to do is charge more and more money for them.

Expensive should mean quality not fragility.

Actually, the price rises in Apple products has been a bit concerning. Not sure what their end game is. Become a luxury product only for the rich?

There must be huge pressure inside Apple to pump out a new phone, iPad, iOS, etc every year. The pc section is screwed though. Lolz. Some years they will be off the mark.

Personally, I think Tim Cook is running Apple for the share holders. The days of innovation in new products is over.
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It’s bending way too easy. Comparing it with old iPad bending videos (

), the new iPad Pro is bending like a dry cracker.

I really really wanted to buy the new 12.9 model but now I think I’ll stick with my old trusty small iPad Pro. Having a large iPad would be great but if I can’t transport it without worrying about it bending then I’ll definitely skip it.

Great find.

Granted his chicken wings would struggle to open a bottle of coke. I think it shows the difference. The pressure he applied would have opened the new iPad Pro like a can of sardines.

 

[9081094]

Problem isn't new to Apple... Problem for Apple is listening, learning and solving

 

[Donoban]

Your last remark made me thinking.
Of course there is an exception to that - which is...jewellery.
Coincidentally, iPad product design is in the hands of an overglorified, narcist, selfhailed man with some derailment that we, overpaying customers, possibly co-created ourselves.
Living under the impression that he’s the walking improved version of the Lord himself, he probably assumed that with iPad, he created a form of jewellery in its sincerest fragile beauty.
He will only turn away his head in awe when seeing some sadist idiots slashing His Creations to the shady concrete floor of some obscure, anonymous garage.
And who would not ?
Prepare this situation to endure until His actual passing over to Heaven - which btw might be the greatest deception he’ll ever encounter, designwise.

Some deep chit there man. Very nice.
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Problem isn't new to Apple... Problem for Apple is listening, learning and solving

Why don’t these guys wear gloves and glasses when they’re smashing their stuff? I saw one guy break his Apple Watch and nearly sent a piece of glass into his sons eye.

 

[sracer]

*Device costs premium price*
*People carry a mobile electronic device in a backpack*
*Device bends just by sitting in the backpack*
*Others blame the user for carrying the device that is meant to be carried*
*Device is shown being way to fragile*
*Nah, still user fault, or "Well the day to day user won't bla bla" , or "Mine doesn't do that, so it's not a problem that exists"*

This is why next year you'll have the same weak structure devices starting at 2k bucks, because people keep defending this crap. And when sales drop you can blame it on the user, again. It's flat-earth conspiracy heights of self awareness.

Exactly. Chill out folks, we're only at GateCon 5

Here's the typical cycle for problems reported on Apple products:
1. A few members post reports of the problem, report it to Apple
2. No response from Apple
3. Increased number of people report the issue
4. No response from Apple
5. Apple apologists dismiss the reports as very rare, the result of trolling, or exaggeration by drama queens
6. Even more reports of the problem
7. No response from Apple
8. News of the problem hits blogs
9. Apple apologists dismiss the blogs as simply engaging in clickbait
10. No response from Apple
11. Those affected by the issue threaten a class-action lawsuit
12. Apple apologists decry the "sue happy" nature of American consumers
13. Apple acknowledges the legitimacy of the problem
14. Apple apologists are silent
15. Apple release an update to correct the problem
or
15. They set up a "program" to address the problem.
16. Apple gains some positive publicity
17. Apple apologists applaud Apple for doing the "right thing". (for an issue that they said from day-1 was not actually an issue)
18. First hand experience with the “program” reveals very strict guidelines and restrictions that greatly reduce the number of affected customers that can participate in the program.


I find it fascinating how so many are completely supporting Apple on this topic as if Apple never had this issue before with a product, including internal documents that revealed that they knew that the iPhone 6 was more prone to bending than the previous model, and how the iPhone 6S had structural design changes to improve the rigidity of the phone for a problem they didn't publicly acknowledge existed.

 

[spiderman0616]

Exactly—thanks for finding that for me.

 

[9081094]

Actually, the price rises in Apple products has been a bit concerning. Not sure what their end game is. Become a luxury product only for the rich?

There must be huge pressure inside Apple to pump out a new phone, iPad, iOS, etc every year. The pc section is screwed though. Lolz. Some years they will be off the mark.

Personally, I think Tim Cook is running Apple for the share holders. The days of innovation in new products is over.
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Great find.

Granted his chicken wings would struggle to open a bottle of coke. I think it shows the difference. The pressure he applied would have opened the new iPad Pro like a can of sardines.

I agree with your opinion but I've a problem with one...

How come a company the size of Apple with so little products (compared to other companies active in the same area) to focus on isn't able to get more out of the pipeline or have comparable competitive products with the latest tech coming out?

Remember everybody laughed at Microsoft or Google when they came out with hardware as well? I still can hear the managers at Apple saying that no one can match in integrating the hard-, software like Apple...

Here we are a few years later and almost everybody makes great looking, innovative and high quality devices with better specs (computers and phones) at half the price Apple is willing too.

Siri, maps, or even photo app or imovie see only incremental updates year after year. Cloud offerings aren't competitive and AppleTV is getting overhauled by the competition. Although the hardware of the iPad Pro is nice... material is cheap an iOS is laughable.

If Apple wants to grow, it needs to start to take it's customers seriously. It hasn't with the Mac. It hasn't with the iPad.
If Apple starts to lose even more marketshare with the iPhone (maybe not in the USA) vendors and software developers will start to see it as a secondary priority. I see this happening in my home country where Huawei has taken over Apple in the speed of lightning with very good quality products at a reasonable price.

 

[Smartass]

This is just shameful. One would think that they've learned a thing or two from the iphone 6 debacle, but i guess they were too busy counting money that they didn't stop to think wether to hire some mexican guy for really cheap wage and have him try to bend every new Apple product that comes out.

 

[deaglecat]

Too much cost cutting, and focus on maximising margin. e.g. If we use lower grade sapphire on the lens case we can save $n, if we don't reinforce the antenna points, we can save $n. If we ship a 5w charger with our flagship phone, we can save $n.

The accountants and value engineers now rule the roost.

 

[CJM]

For a device that's meant to go everywhere with you, that's some seriously thin sections of aluminium at the middle - no wonder it bends. Though if Apple wants to wirelessly charge the Pencil, where else would they put that cutout. I guess they could always switch back to Titanium, like the Macs of old!

 

[sracer]

This is just shameful. One would think that they've learned a thing or two from the iphone 6 debacle,

Apple DID learn quite a few things from the iPhone 6 incident.... one of the things that they learned is that Apple customers in general are not a very demanding group of people. By "demanding" I mean, that some might grumble and complain temporarily but after the emotions pass they revert back to, "shut up and take my money".

Why should Apple expend the effort to make their devices less fragile when that isn't a high priority for their customers? In Appleland, stuff like "Pro-motion" sells, sturdier devices do not. On the contrary, by making less sturdy devices, they are making MORE money as more people get scared into buying AppleCare. It is a brilliant move... a move I choose not to participate in, but brilliant nonetheless.

 

[bobob]

*Device bends just by sitting in the backpack*

I would like to see a practical demonstration of this "fact".

 

[44267547]

If you think about it, even if Apple does improve the rigidity of the aluminum used on the 2018 iPad Pro, it won’t be until the next iteration release of a future iPad. Just like they did with the iPhone 6 using the 6000 series aluminum, they used the 7000 series aluminum with the iPhone 6s the following year. So you have to make a decision, do you choose to purchase this iPad and use adequate protection as 99% of iPad owners do, or, do you wait until the next iPad Pro releases approximately 18 months from now or later to see if Apple made any revisions.

Altogether, the majority of owners purchasing a new iPad won’t be affected by any bending, Why? Because they will take care of their property, just as they would with a nice watch, or car or any other expensive investment. For some of those experiencing the bending, they mistreated their property to begin with.

 

[Negative287]

There's a very real issue here in the design. This is why it was huge to "bendgate" the iPhone, because of COURSE you had it in a pocket, and they have to survive bend forces.

If Apple is going to always go thinner and lighter, we are the ones who will suffer for that. The slightest force bends or breaks an iPad? What is our fix for that -- Applecare and/or more money? I'm sorry, but that's a bit ridiculous.

Imagine the next iPad. Of course it'll be the thinnest and best and awesomest iPad ever. But it's not like they've invented anti-bending technology. They're taking structure and weight out of a product that fundamentally needs structure and weight in order to survive actual real-life use scenarios.

With the camera bump and the writing option, I wondered how long it would be before someone at a desk would bend the screen. Or like the original article stated -- just having it in a backpack. This isn't something I'm comfortable spending this large amount of money on if it can't survive simple use scenarios, or alternatively I have to worry that I'm carrying a delicate and highly expensive piece of technology in my bag.

My iPad Pro of last year had this actual problem, and fortunately I could bend it back, but it really made me concerned (kids didn't notice it and ended up sitting on it).

And no, don't tell me to invest in cases or protectors or Applecare. It's still a design problem. I might still get Applecare but it shouldn't be something I expect or feel that I need because the product is so inherently prone to breaking.

Mine has been in a backpack on and off since I purchased it. I have had a single issue with it, but I do have the folio case on it that eliminates the problems with the camera being slightly raised, so it’s not really a huge issue in my opinion.

To me the biggest issue was the fact that Apple literally only had one case available at the time of launch and they clearly didn’t include any case partners in the build up to the launch of the device. I would have loved to have gotten an otter box or stiff leather folio style case for this as these worked well for the previous models.
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Agreed, apple should get rid of cameras in iPads, very-VERY few people take pictures with them.

Well, not both of them, just the one on the back of the iPad... The one facing you is still good for FaceTime with family and friends.

 

[BarredOwl]

I agree. I understand that this is a device with a large surface area and flat design, but it looks like the amount of force needed to completely destroy these new iPads is very small. I do not own an iPad but was thinking of buying one. This bend test at the end of the video just became a deal breaker (pun intended)! ☺️☺️

Yep. There is no way I’m buying this weak-ass thing. I demand that my mobile devices be durable. Real professionals need devices that work. We can’t be bothered with babying an iPad or iPhone. It’s a tool for work, not a sick kitten or a priceless work of art. Get it together, Apple.

 

[macjoshua]

Glad I decided to hold off on buying one of these. Not only are they too expensive, but people are generally rougher on tablets than, for instance, a laptop that’s similarly priced.

I wonder if a lot of these will end up getting “touch disease” or something similar down the road, like all the iPhones that were affected negatively by slight bends.