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Job’s Apple delivered products that were expensive as a result of trying to deliver premium products.

I perceive that Cook’s Apple is delivering better than average products with premium prices as a result of consciously trying to maintain high profit margins.
 
I suppose I would be more worried if people didn’t do these tortures to Apple devices anymore. Nobody tortured a Surface Pro because people don’t care.
 
Why is everybody so angry that Apple’s not able to change the laws of physics? It’s a machine made of metal and glass the size of a piece of notebook paper and less than 1/4 of an inch thick. Do you think it’s indestructible? This argument is so dumb. It’s like yelling at the car company if you drive into a tree.
 
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Aren't these things made of Aluminum? It's not supposed to withstand intentional "bending" is it?
 
Why is everybody so angry that Apple’s not able to change the laws of physics? It’s a machine made of metal and glass the size of a piece of notebook paper and less than 1/4 of an inch thick. Do you think it’s indestructible? This argument is so dumb. It’s like yelling at the car company if you drive into a tree.

Gosh Darn It! I danced on the hood of my car (which is aluminum BTW) and it dented! I need to get a life ;)
 
That video is embarrassing. Who beats their tablet on a table?

ALL THESE TESTS ARE STUPID!! They are not real world normal scenarios, so it's pointless.

I want a tablet with a good OS, fast, and beautiful screen. I'm going to buy that tablet versus the one I can beat on a table without consequence.

Besides, look at 4:40. The touch inputs were unresponsive after he beat the crap out of it.
...and if you watch a little beyond that you'd see that it becomes responsive again because it was loading/downloading something.

I doubt that you would believe real world scenarios if they didn't turn out the way you preferred. Someone says that their iPad Pro bowed as a result of transporting it in a backpack and the response is that they must have done something drastic to cause that. confirmation bias is a real thing.
 
But that’s the thing, if you sit on anything made of GLASS there’s a risk of it cracking. Plenty of devices and things can deform under pressure Lol.

I don’t know... It just seems like a non-story to me. iPhone 6 Bendgate was super real and worrisome. This? Not so much.

In that case, you could argue that the video was helpful in showing that the device is strong enough for your needs. :cool:

Either way, it gives an idea of the pressures it can take. I'd prefer it to be a bit more scientific, though.
 
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After using Apple products for almost 30 years....I am done.

I am tired of paying $3k-4k for a middling laptop, I am done dealing with phones (and now tablets) that pursue thinness over function, I am done supporting a company that doesn't even exert the effort to keep their "pro" products up to spec, and I am so over them purposely making everything non user-replaceable/upgradable while charging prohibitively expensive prices for upgrade options...

They made the iPad Pro so damn thin that the camera lens protrudes pretty far out, and they couldn't even put an audio jack on it. This is the end result, an expensive toy that bends like a piece of cardboard. What's more, his scratch tests on the display and camera lens reveal that Apple isn't even using materials of a high enough quality to be commensurate with the price.

Don’t lose site of the forest for the trees now. Remember than not having a headphone jack on the iPad Pro is aztuslly a benefit (whether you understand how or why yet).

In fact, I really liked plugging my headphones into things like iPhones and iPads, until someone was kind enough to let me know that I had to “rethink everything.” Now I’m a lot happier. I don’t listen to music as much because I don’t know how, but I’m way less stressed.
 
I just have to point out, how the hell is it bending? Are people sitting on it? Like, mine is in my keyboard case and its also being thrown into my backpack and all kinds of stuff. I’m carful with it, but I’m definitely rough with it. It doesn’t bend at all as far as I see. I mean, I don’t see it as a problem. how are they getting bent unless you are just bending it with your bare hands? I’m pretty sure I can bend any iPad if I tried. This is no different. Okay, Rant over. By the way, I typed this on my iPad...its not bent at all. Got it on day one and it looks just like it did when I took it out of the box.
 
I baby my iOS devices. When I turn them in for upgrades, they look like new.
 
Agreed, apple should get rid of cameras in iPads, very-VERY few people take pictures with them.

Or just go back to using a camera that fits flush with the device “just in case.” People need cameras in iPads to scan documents, and... that’s about it. I’m also sure 99.99% of iPad Pro owners also have an iPhone Pro within 10 feet of them— in case of an emergency where they needed to take a really high-quality cellphone photo.
 
The comments I laugh at "It doesn't take much force". First, OK if it doesn't take much force then what is it? Second, I personally never thought in a million years to check how much force it would take in the first place to bend it. I'm not going take an expensive item and do a bend test on it in the first place. I seen the video where it looks like the person might not be using much force, but looks can be deceiving. He also scratched the back of the iPad Pro and did a few other destructive things to it. I believe he held a lighter to it? The thing that got me is when he first open the iPad Pro packaging is that he used a knife. I mean really when using your hands would had been enough.

Well, I know this comment will fall on many a deaf ear, so I just go outside tomorrow and play frisbee with my new iPhone Pro to see if it is aerodynamically stable enough to do so. I'll call it Frisbee Gate.
 
...and if you watch a little beyond that you'd see that it becomes responsive again because it was loading/downloading something.

I doubt that you would believe real world scenarios if they didn't turn out the way you preferred. Someone says that their iPad Pro bowed as a result of transporting it in a backpack and the response is that they must have done something drastic to cause that. confirmation bias is a real thing.
Maybe it was unresponsive regardless? Irrelevant anyway, because it’s a pointless test.

Take better care of your stuff. Durability is one thing, but it doesn’t trump the purpose of a tablet. It’s like saying you’ll buy a car that has more durable paint against a screwdriver, but is inferior in every other way.
 
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Why is everybody so angry that Apple’s not able to change the laws of physics? It’s a machine made of metal and glass the size of a piece of notebook paper and less than 1/4 of an inch thick. Do you think it’s indestructible? This argument is so dumb. It’s like yelling at the car company if you drive into a tree.

Bad analogy. If your car broke it's axle from driving over bumps, that would be a fair comparison. That would be doing something that the car does under "normal" conditions.

Remember, Apple is selling these things to be school accessories. If they bend from being put in a bag, that's concerning. It doesn't mean it's right or wrong, it's just … sensitive. You see, the iPad in and of itself should be able to maintain it's normal framework under normal conditions. So what's "normal" then? I would think buying an iPad and putting it into a backpack is completely normal -- just as if you bought a car and drive it over bumps in the road.

The same issue happened with iPhones a few years back, that's where the term "bendgate" originated. Apple couldn't argue with the logic that iPhones get put into pockets and therefore might actually suffer some bending force. As arrogant as they might be (and often are), their sacrificing-structural-integrity-for-weight plan backfired in that iteration, and ever since then they've not made the same mistake with the iPhone. Some things (fortunately) are too obvious to ignore.

I just believe that this iteration of iPad has gone a bit too far in the thin-and-light arena and is a bit too weak. As with everything, this is highly subjective, but consumers need to be advised and forewarned of this. I think the iPad is a great product but after seeing this video I'm deeply concerned. I don't like feeling like I have to be super delicate with my mobile tech, or feel like I am drawn toward needing AppleCare or a protection case, etc etc … its more money toward Apple's accessories ecosystem instead of making the product itself better.

Here's what I mean, ponder this logic - if a half-pound of reinforcement in an iPad would make it more durable, we wouldn't be compelled to buy cases or applecare. Buying a case for the iPad drives up the weight, so where's the real savings on weight for us as consumers? All of this adds to the cost and this is where the conspiracy theorists believe we're being suckered: the subtle flaws in the product actually drive up ecosystem sales. We consumers already know the product is more fragile because it's so thin and light. That's the core of why I'm offended and worried, personally. This kind of trend needs to stop - we shouldn't have to buy applecare or a case to have a reasonable lifecycle of use from a product, or worse, be scared or intimidated that we should.

This isn't even going into the points that they want you to use it "like a computer". The USB-C port is a gauntlet-dropping jump into the PC space, so would you honestly rely on this as a PC/Mac replacement, without buying all those protections? I don't think so. That's effectively what makes this $800 iPad a defacto $1000 iPad. At the cheapest. Now that, my friends, is the real "apple tax".

I love the iPad, but I really want to see better quality products.
 
Bad analogy. If your car broke it's axle from driving over bumps, that would be a fair comparison. That would be doing something that the car does under "normal" conditions.

Remember, Apple is selling these things to be school accessories. If they bend from being put in a bag, that's concerning. It doesn't mean it's right or wrong, it's just … sensitive. You see, the iPad in and of itself should be able to maintain it's normal framework under normal conditions. So what's "normal" then? I would think buying an iPad and putting it into a backpack is completely normal -- just as if you bought a car and drive it over bumps in the road.

The same issue happened with iPhones a few years back, that's where the term "bendgate" originated. Apple couldn't argue with the logic that iPhones get put into pockets and therefore might actually suffer some bending force. As arrogant as they might be (and often are), their sacrificing-structural-integrity-for-weight plan backfired in that iteration, and ever since then they've not made the same mistake with the iPhone. Some things (fortunately) are too obvious to ignore.

I just believe that this iteration of iPad has gone a bit too far in the thin-and-light arena and is a bit too weak. As with everything, this is highly subjective, but consumers need to be advised and forewarned of this. I think the iPad is a great product but after seeing this video I'm deeply concerned. I don't like feeling like I have to be super delicate with my mobile tech, or feel like I am drawn toward needing AppleCare or a protection case, etc etc … its more money toward Apple's accessories ecosystem instead of making the product itself better.

Here's what I mean, ponder this logic - if a half-pound of reinforcement in an iPad would make it more durable, we wouldn't be compelled to buy cases or applecare. Buying a case for the iPad drives up the weight, so where's the real savings on weight for us as consumers? All of this adds to the cost and this is where the conspiracy theorists believe we're being suckered: the subtle flaws in the product actually drive up ecosystem sales. We consumers already know the product is more fragile because it's so thin and light. That's the core of why I'm offended and worried, personally. This kind of trend needs to stop - we shouldn't have to buy applecare or a case to have a reasonable lifecycle of use from a product, or worse, be scared or intimidated that we should.

This isn't even going into the points that they want you to use it "like a computer". The USB-C port is a gauntlet-dropping jump into the PC space, so would you honestly rely on this as a PC/Mac replacement, without buying all those protections? I don't think so. That's effectively what makes this $800 iPad a defacto $1000 iPad. At the cheapest. Now that, my friends, is the real "apple tax".

I love the iPad, but I really want to see better quality products.

Did this person throw the iPad in a backpack? No. He abused the heck out of it and tore pieces out of it, then intentionally snapped it in half. One of the pieces he ripped off it was in its structurally weakest point to begin with.

I just love how these things turn from: man drives over iPad with a truck which causes it to break... to: the iPad will break if I sneeze on it!!!!!

I hope this person’s YouTube ads cover the cost of the iPad he intentionally smashed.
 
Bad analogy. If your car broke it's axle from driving over bumps, that would be a fair comparison. That would be doing something that the car does under "normal" conditions.

Remember, Apple is selling these things to be school accessories. If they bend from being put in a bag, that's concerning. It doesn't mean it's right or wrong, it's just … sensitive. You see, the iPad in and of itself should be able to maintain it's normal framework under normal conditions. So what's "normal" then? I would think buying an iPad and putting it into a backpack is completely normal -- just as if you bought a car and drive it over bumps in the road.

The same issue happened with iPhones a few years back, that's where the term "bendgate" originated. Apple couldn't argue with the logic that iPhones get put into pockets and therefore might actually suffer some bending force. As arrogant as they might be (and often are), their sacrificing-structural-integrity-for-weight plan backfired in that iteration, and ever since then they've not made the same mistake with the iPhone. Some things (fortunately) are too obvious to ignore.

I just believe that this iteration of iPad has gone a bit too far in the thin-and-light arena and is a bit too weak. As with everything, this is highly subjective, but consumers need to be advised and forewarned of this. I think the iPad is a great product but after seeing this video I'm deeply concerned. I don't like feeling like I have to be super delicate with my mobile tech, or feel like I am drawn toward needing AppleCare or a protection case, etc etc … its more money toward Apple's accessories ecosystem instead of making the product itself better.

Here's what I mean, ponder this logic - if a half-pound of reinforcement in an iPad would make it more durable, we wouldn't be compelled to buy cases or applecare. Buying a case for the iPad drives up the weight, so where's the real savings on weight for us as consumers? All of this adds to the cost and this is where the conspiracy theorists believe we're being suckered: the subtle flaws in the product actually drive up ecosystem sales. We consumers already know the product is more fragile because it's so thin and light. That's the core of why I'm offended and worried, personally. This kind of trend needs to stop - we shouldn't have to buy applecare or a case to have a reasonable lifecycle of use from a product, or worse, be scared or intimidated that we should.

This isn't even going into the points that they want you to use it "like a computer". The USB-C port is a gauntlet-dropping jump into the PC space, so would you honestly rely on this as a PC/Mac replacement, without buying all those protections? I don't think so. That's effectively what makes this $800 iPad a defacto $1000 iPad. At the cheapest. Now that, my friends, is the real "apple tax".

I love the iPad, but I really want to see better quality products.

The Evil Apple genius business argument seems over the top IMHO. It just isn’t sustainable business. Even fanboys would be wise by now. “The for the price argument” that the product should be usable by a SWAT team isn’t cutting it for me. I use the new iPad at home, at my local coffee shops. I have yet to fly with the iPad while traveling. But I think carry on should work. So far I’m not paranoid about the durability. If you don’t own please don’t speculate from “click bait’ videos.
 
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