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So Apple is a trillion $ company with loads of experience making hardware; they know the materials inside and out; they’ve had this exact problem previously on iPhones; they cut a big chunk out of the (even thinner) frame for wireless charging and decided to do nothing to compensate the loss of structural integrity, such as use a stronger Al alloy or internal reinforcing on a premium-priced “Pro” device; and there are still dozens of users here defending them?

Never mind. Just take a walk for 5 mins and come back.
 
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Came out of box this way, assume it happened during manufacturing. Other end also bent right at the LTE antenna seam.
 

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Shame, because he has some good points. I bought a second-hand iPhone 8 Plus which is pretty good, but other than that I’m also almost “done” with Apple.

I can’t see myself upgrading to one of their notched phones and I hate the butterfly keyboards.
Our family is just getting started. We started with apple in 2010 with the iphone 4. My parents started with the stock in the 2000's although didn't buy any hardware. Now we're all iphones, couple of macbook airs, ipads, ATV, AW. I'm probably going to wind up with a max and airpods under the Xmas tree.

Apple has many customers with differing values, as it should be.
 
Because then, they would presumably have moved on to a different platform which is (hopefully) working out better for them.

It’s like someone doesn’t like Italian food, and I see no reason in forcing them to keep frequenting that restaurant. So long as they are eating what they enjoy, that’s good enough for me.

I like my Apple products, and I also recognise that they aren’t for everyone, not least because of the limits and idiosyncrasies that Apple imposes on their ecosystem.

When one door closes, another opens. That’s what we can be happy about. That person finding the workflow which best suits their needs.
Apart from the fact it is usually someone who is a fan of Apple products who makes the statement because they are annoyed with someone bad mouthing Apple.

Aside from that, it is not a very fitting analogy.
This isn't a very fitting one either (usually analogies are poor) but would be like telling an italian to go to a spanish restaurant. Its not so easy because they are used to speaking italian and eating italian food and now you are telling them to eat different food and speak a different language.
 
Why on earth would you be happy with any customer not purchasing Apple products any more.
Those kind of statements come from Apple fanbois or strange human beings.
How about a bit of empathy for someone having no luck with their Apple products or experience...
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Apple is not a cult and I personally don't care if anyone proclaims they will or will not buy an apple product. That's not what it is about. To those who post with issues on apple products, it's about helping people find a solution to their issues. Sometimes finding another vendor is the solution, not doling out the empathy as you put it. But yeah, I'm sorry you have had no luck with apple products or the experience. My products and experience are totally the opposite of yours.

Apart from the fact it is usually someone who is a fan of Apple products who makes the statement because they are annoyed with someone bad mouthing Apple.
This hyperbole is what you are going with?
 
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Maybe it was unresponsive regardless? Irrelevant anyway, because it’s a pointless test.

Take better care of your stuff. Durability is one thing, but it doesn’t trump the purpose of a tablet. It’s like saying you’ll buy a car that has more durable paint against a screwdriver, but is inferior in every other way.
I agree. I don't understand why many people view this issue as a personal attack against them... to the point where they feel the need to insult others and defend Apple Corp.

These type of videos should be considered PSAs. For all of the hyperbole around the issue, in all likelihood, those complaining about the bendability aren't going give this Pro a pass. They'll buy it anyways. (or they were never going to buy it in the first place)

But it is helpful to caution people that although previous iPads were more durable, these are less and to take the appropriate care. And even if their iPad doesn't actually bend or bow, they should be concerned about putting the iPad in situations where the body flexes... that kind of flexing is not visible but can cause long-term damage to the internals.
 
I agree. I don't understand why many people view this issue as a personal attack against them... to the point where they feel the need to insult others and defend Apple Corp.

These type of videos should be considered PSAs. For all of the hyperbole around the issue, in all likelihood, those complaining about the bendability aren't going give this Pro a pass. They'll buy it anyways. (or they were never going to buy it in the first place)

But it is helpful to caution people that although previous iPads were more durable, these are less and to take the appropriate care. And even if their iPad doesn't actually bend or bow, they should be concerned about putting the iPad in situations where the body flexes... that kind of flexing is not visible but can cause long-term damage to the internals.
I'm sure there are people who appreciate the power and thinness under the hood and will treat these new "bendable" ipads appropriately and not have any issue.

Waiting for the results of the "drop" test...
 
Apple makes great products there is no doubting that.
But Apple is a niche player in terms of products sold worldwide and some people make decisions not based on what is best or most expensive. I'd love the day that Apple could design/make affordable products that not just you or I can afford, especially the iPad which is probably one of the devices that would meet the needs of most of the general population.

You can't say the $329 iPad isn't a step in the right direction though. Compare that to what you used to get for $499 (not even counting inflation).
 
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Shame, because he has some good points. I bought a second-hand iPhone 8 Plus which is pretty good, but other than that I’m also almost “done” with Apple.

I can’t see myself upgrading to one of their notched phones and I hate the butterfly keyboards.
No shame at all. It’s a bulshit utopian “points” of a naive person looking through pink glasses.
 
The same people here complaining about it being too bendable and thin, would be the first to complain that it’s too thick and heavy, if apple were to go that design direction.
 
Right here is the major issue. The cutout for the pencil charging is poorly supported by very very thin aluminum.
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You make a good point and I’m sure some engineers at Apple were not happy about Sir Ive's decision to put the cutout in the middle of that span. It’s no different than a clueless plumber who notches a floor joist at the middle to run a pipe and saddles the homeowner with the grief of a sagging floor. This is a mechanical design screwup disguised as artistic license.
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The same people here complaining about it being too bendable and thin, would be the first to complain that it’s too thick and heavy, if apple were to go that design direction.
No. My 17” MBP is all aluminum, heavy as heck, but it suffers none of these problems. Never once have I thought “Gee I wish Jony had made it half an inch thinner and two pounds lighter.” Ive needs to be reigned in by someone willing to stand up to his thin fetishes. Jobs was up to the task, apparently Cook is not willing to confront him.
 
The same people here complaining about it being too bendable and thin, would be the first to complain that it’s too thick and heavy, if apple were to go that design direction.
As you can see in the video, there is more than enough room to make a ‘bone’ structure. To make and develop one, is cheap and not that expensive. It’s a design choice not to do.

As many come up with the car analogy... each new generation of cars is stiffer than the generation before. The platework maybe thin, but the overall structure is stiffer.

I hope when ever project Titan sees the light of day, Apple learned a lesson or two from the iPhones, the magic keyboard II and the newly introduced iPad Pro. If the electric car from project Titan has the same chassis as the iPad Pro, I’m certain it won’t come through the regulations to drive the highway. One thing will be certain though, you can bet it will be priced as a rolls Royce.
 
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This video is stupid.
Why? I’m glad those videos exists. If it is pure nonsense it will ampen quickly. But I don’t see any nonsense and see it as an opportunity for Apple to make their products premium, not only in price butin durability as well.
If it weren’t for this kind of videos, buyers who have trouble and complain are crying in the dark. It happened with the iPhone 6, magic keyboard II, butterfly keyboard and lots more.
What if it happened to you? We all know Apple doesn’t listen to its customers. If they did the state of the Mac wouldn’t be so sad and they would have much more marketshare and still able to make a profit. Not that exorbitant amount of today, but at least they would have more and happier customer base and an admirable brand name.
 
Why is everybody so angry that Apple’s not able to change the laws of physics? It’s a machine made of metal and glass the size of a piece of notebook paper and less than 1/4 of an inch thick. Do you think it’s indestructible? This argument is so dumb. It’s like yelling at the car company if you drive into a tree.
A good engineer knows how to exploit the laws of physics to take advantage of them. Just take a look at the BB84 protocol where an IBM engineer found a way to exploit the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle instead of seeing it as a limitation.
 
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So Apple is a trillion $ company with loads of experience making hardware; they know the materials inside and out; they’ve had this exact problem previously on iPhones; they cut a big chunk out of the (even thinner) frame for wireless charging and decided to do nothing to compensate the loss of structural integrity, such as use a stronger Al alloy or internal reinforcing on a premium-priced “Pro” device; and there are still dozens of users here defending them?
Yes, unfortunately that’s is the sad state of a once remarkable brand today. I waited 8 years now an all I saw were incremental updates and little effort from Apple in their whole product line. Google, Huawei and others are pushing hard over here with big results. All I see is Apple upping their prices relying on their vaporizing good brandname. Enough is enough and I’m slowly getting out of apple’s expensive outof date eco trap.
Apple tvwas my first move. HomeKit will be my next.
 



Apple's new 11 and 12.9-inch models are its thinnest yet, measuring in at just 5.9mm, and both forum complaints and a new bend test video suggest the two devices have the potential to bend without a huge amount of force.

On the MacRumors forum, there have been a few complaints of bending from MacRumors readers. Forum member Bwrin1, for example, posted a photo of a bent 12.9-inch iPad Pro suggesting it had bent from just a weekend trip in a backpack.

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The iPad Pro in question does indeed appear to have a curve to it, refusing to lay flat on a table. At the same time, YouTuber JerryRigEverything has posted a bend test video of the new iPad Pro, which indicates it has the potential to bend with a limited amount of force.


In the video, the iPad Pro snaps in half after what appears to be a moderate amount of pressure is applied to the device.

Despite the video and the forum complaint, this does not appear to be a widespread issue. There are a couple of other complaints from MacRumors readers who were seeing slight curves in their devices and received replacements or sent the tablet back, but there aren't complaints that match the complaints we saw back in 2014 with the original iPhone 6 Plus bendgate.

It's not clear if the new iPad Pro models are more or less bendable than previous devices, and bend tests are not reflective of real world usage conditions. All devices of this size will bend when enough force is applied, so it is no surprise to see the bend in the YouTube video.

If the new iPad Pro models are bending from regular use, that could be a more significant issue, and we'll need to keep an eye out for additional reports of bending to determine whether there's a serious problem with Apple's newest tablet.

Article Link: New iPad Pro Models May Be Prone to Bending
[doublepost=1542559614][/doublepost]€ 899.00 to fold an iPad. It's crazy. Who would ever buy such an expensive appliance and would not use it with adequate caution?
 
Yes, unfortunately that’s is the sad state of a once remarkable brand today. I waited 8 years now an all I saw were incremental updates and little effort from Apple in their whole product line. Google, Huawei and others are pushing hard over here with big results. All I see is Apple upping their prices relying on their vaporizing good brandname. Enough is enough and I’m slowly getting out of apple’s expensive outof date eco trap.
Apple tvwas my first move. HomeKit will be my next.

So true. The fact that the A12X destroys anything used by Huawei or Google is an obvious example of lack of effort. Google's sad attempt at duplicating the Airpods is another example of what must be them pushing really hard :rolleyes:

Come on... The iPad Pro is breakable and that's a sign of Google and Huawei doing a better job across the board? These types of eye-rolling statements are always a million times more one-sided than reality.
 
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