Of course it was. It’s a window manager, not a AAA first person shoot em up
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New iPadOS 16.1 Beta Expands Stage Manager to Older iPad Pro Models, Delays External Display Support
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I hope thy allow turning off iPad when connected to external display. I have been using my iPad Pro connected to my apple studio monitor for a few months now and it is a killer feature!
I ue my MacBook Pro when I need some really hardcore **** with photoshop etc
I ue my MacBook Pro when I need some really hardcore **** with photoshop etc
So, a Dell 8200 laptop with 128 MBs of RAM from 2002 can support external displays and overlapping/floating windows. But an iPad from 2018 can't? Sorry Apple, but you are being nothing but a crook with this. And don't tell me anything about swap and memory. You just want people to buy new iPads.
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Good lord, $4500 for an iPad Pro setup?? 🥴😵💫
Maybe there is a god. Removing such a big feature from such recent iPad Pros felt like a slap in the face. These devices aren't cheap and we should be able to count on them meeting the iPadOS standard for years after buying them new.
Back when this was news, i already stated they would make an update making this available for older iPads. With the reason: wanting to give the best user experience to Apple users. Told you they would able to do this. Forced upgrades tactics at it's finest.
Yeah, they should have remain committed to their previous stance… make SM solid for M1 iPads, now because of this situation… Apple has delayed it on external displays smh.
From the same company that told us, “you’re holding it wrong”, and slowed down phones on purpose? Doubtful.
Those of us who use iPad Mini are still getting the shaft. They treat it like a giant iPhone spec wise but it runs iPad OS with most the cool stuff gated to larger screens. External Display would be awesome on the Mini and it has a A15 Bionic processor.
I maintain stage manager is bad UX, it is a weird secondary mode that they hacked into the OS when they have a perfectly good example of windowing and splitview/fullscreen on the Mac with MissionControl's expose + spaces setup.
Stage manager seems to have won out over something like mission control for iPad more based on it being the new hotness rather than being better UX. Someone prominent wants to do this funky new UX idea and there was no one high enough up with an understanding that adding in this weird mode where your windows are buried two levels deep is a bad idea...
Mission control:
- Multiple resizable windows (and even better than stage manager because expose means you can overlap them without worrying about loosing one)
- Fullscreen + Split view (Lets keep the iPad improvements that let you drag windows in and out of it though)
- Windows can exist in one place at a time allowing for a good mental model.
- No need to have multiple stages since you can have multiple 'spaces' instead and each space exists independently in the mission control space/app switcher area
- integrates nicely with external monitors
Edit: if they need to limit to 4 windows per space they can even still do that ...
Stage manager seems to have won out over something like mission control for iPad more based on it being the new hotness rather than being better UX. Someone prominent wants to do this funky new UX idea and there was no one high enough up with an understanding that adding in this weird mode where your windows are buried two levels deep is a bad idea...
Mission control:
- Multiple resizable windows (and even better than stage manager because expose means you can overlap them without worrying about loosing one)
- Fullscreen + Split view (Lets keep the iPad improvements that let you drag windows in and out of it though)
- Windows can exist in one place at a time allowing for a good mental model.
- No need to have multiple stages since you can have multiple 'spaces' instead and each space exists independently in the mission control space/app switcher area
- integrates nicely with external monitors
Edit: if they need to limit to 4 windows per space they can even still do that ...
They could use the exact same animations. If you look at every single example, the existing notch area is unused.
I believe it was Ford that said: "Don't give the people what they want. Give them what they need." It was also what Steve always did.
I always took at as "Older models will not perform well with the feature as is and it would take a lot of resources that we currently dedicating to other features to make it work acceptably for older models."
I don't see it as a lie exactly - just not full disclosure. I'm glad that they have decided to extend this to other recent iPP models.
I have an iMac G4 800 Mhz that can happily run Exposé with 8 windows without dropping frames... if apple can't match that performance in 2022 with an A12X they should hire better engineers...
More like, exactly as they originally said, they were not able to offer acceptable performance on non-M1 iPads because the feature requires "large internal memory, incredibly fast storage, and flexible external display I/O" provided by the M1 iPad models 🤷♂️
Replying to myself: Maybe they built stage manager in SwiftUI and that is why it's so broken...
As those of us with a memory longer than last year can attest - mission control (which combines expose and spaces) has worked well on Macs with lower specs than even the A10 for years without dropping frames... Going back further G4 PowerPC Macs were able to run Expose without issue and they were on less than 1GB of memory with spinning hard drives...
Maybe they need longer dev cycles (2 years instead of 1) or maybe they need better engineers...
The A12Z in the Developer Kit had 16GB of RAM, the A12Z in the 2020 iPad Pros has 6GB, that's the key difference.
Pro apps has always mostly been a developer problem - many developers still see the iPad as a consumption tool and don't bring the full feature set of their apps to iPad ... even apple is guilty of this with Keynote, I wanted to make a gif with overlapping simultaneous animations and couldn't do it on my iPad and instead had to use my Mac.