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Wrong prioritization...Stage Manager is a big deal on an external display, but basicaly useless on the ipad screen, especially 11” one.
 
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Except they then removed the external screen support.
Not bothered about the multiple apps, just wanted to have decent support if I connected a screen or TV.
Why did they have to have them both in one feature set:(
 
I'm can't wait to hear all the people who complained that Apple had ruined their older iPads (because they bought out a feature on the M1 iPads that nobody with an older one cared about when they actually bought the damn things!) now complain if Stage Manager doesn't work properly on the older iPads!

"How dare Apple update the software with a feature that doesn't work as well on the older models... Why didn't they leave it out instead of being lazy and just releasing the same software for everyone!"
 
Wow thank you so much, probably shouldn’t say this incase Apple see’s but was contemplating ditching my perfectly good iPad Pro 11” First gen for an Air just so wasn’t lagging behind on features. Glad I don’t have to as I have a cellular 512 GB model and promotion screen and face id on this device….man…really glad I didn’t do that lol.
 
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So Apple tried to force people into buying the new iPad just for this feature. People said GTFO we ain't doing that, sales continue to crash for Apple products, so Apple pretends like they didn't lie about the older products can't handle it and magically made it available to them.
 
Apple's developers reported to management that they found out they can switch a boolean value in the configuration files to enable Stage Manager.
Or they just had more time to work on it and optimized the code. Also it’s pretty clear they had to elimine the external monitor option so no, State manager is not able to run in older iPads without concessions
 
So the whole “older iPad Pros can’t handle stage manager” was just BS from apple?
Exactly! We all knew this though😂

Once again, I am glad I didn’t fall into the frenzy of needing to leave my A12Z iPad Pro for an M1 model when the M1 models were announced🤣

Having seen Stage Manager in action I was not even bothered it was originally not coming as it seemed rather cumbersome to use anyway.

I sure hope it’s not a feature people bought M1 iPad Pros for recently, that would be silly. 😬
 
This math is nonsense. You can't just say 40 windows on 24GB works so 8 windows on 4GB should work. First of all that gives each window more RAM on the 24GB machine, and a lot of processes can share resources in that scenario with the much larger pool of memory, but it goes beyond that. Imagine the OS takes a couple GB just to be running. Losing 2GB barely makes a dent for the 24GB machine, but cuts usable RAM in half for the 4GB machine.
A whopping 100 mb more on the 24GB machine - I should inspect actual app memory use on an iPad Pro to check but i maintain that it could be made pretty fluid if apples focus was on performance and they gave themselves more than a year to work out the bugs…
 
i have a desk setup and i would love to mirror the ipad full screen (mainly for browser on safari)
lumafusion would nice too

side note: it would be nice if i can use it while ipad screen is off (dock it on the side)
 
No love for the iPad Mini, a device still on sale which has the newest generation chip ever in an iPad (newer than M1 even) and faster performance than A12X/Z. The processor and ram are clearly not bottlenecks, so it comes down to a decision by Apple to not support it.
 
i have a desk setup and i would love to mirror the ipad full screen (mainly for browser on safari)
lumafusion would nice too

side note: it would be nice if i can use it while ipad screen is off (dock it on the side)
It does currently mirror the screen.
What it doesn't do is rescale and relayout the screen to fit external monitors or treat those as separate screens. that is reserved for M1+
 
I'm can't wait to hear all the people who complained that Apple had ruined their older iPads (because they bought out a feature on the M1 iPads that nobody with an older one cared about when they actually bought the damn things!) now complain if Stage Manager doesn't work properly on the older iPads!

"How dare Apple update the software with a feature that doesn't work as well on the older models... Why didn't they leave it out instead of being lazy and just releasing the same software for everyone!"
It doesn't even work well on the device it's supposed to work well, this is simply badly written software and has nothing to do with hardware
 
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Puts the lie to a bunch of Apple's other orphaning moves, like blocking the original 5K iMacs and their peers from updating to Monterey.

Apple is a lot better than Android in this regard, but they're also known to be lazy punters when fairly routine design challenges (AKA necessary work) arise.

Not to mention: Who is clamoring for this BS anyway? I've never felt deprived by not having bunch of windows on my phone or even tablet. The Mac, which has a long heritage of apps that launched an idiotic flotilla of separate windows, has finally gotten away from that. Now they're trying to resurrect it on touchscreens, which already require fat, dumbed-down UI with finger-sized widgets? Retarded.
 
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It doesn't even work well on the device it's supposed to work well, this is simply badly written software and has nothing to do with hardware
It is still unrelated beta software that is changing quite a lot with each release. Best to go away for a while until it is actually released. Frankly, I hope that they still label it as beta after it launches and don't make it a default. I think it needs a little more time in the oven.
 
this was my immediate thought as well...
Because it’s not a pro. Clearly they’re going to be updating the iPad Pro lineup with specific prosumer oriented features, and they won’t make it to the normal iPad lineup.

IPad/IPad air > primarily a tablet
IPad Pro > going to get more and more ‘laptop replacement’-type features

Buy the iPad that corresponds with your needs.

Also you shouldn’t worry about it too much anyway since this is primarily a feature meant for the 12.9” iPad. On the smaller models it’s completely useless.
 
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