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New iPhone 5 being banned before it is released??
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That's site says that apple didn't violate 3 patents but sent the 4th back for another look, but there were 7 patents total in the most recent lawsuit. What happened to the others?
I honestly don't know. To be truthful, I'm not following that closely. I just remembered seeing/reading the news a few days ago.
Apple would of been better off lossing to Samsung as this ruling sets a precedent for Motorola aka Google to ban the iphone. Before you know it all phones will be banned and we will have nothing to choose from.
yeah, what you linked was for a different lawsuit. The lawsuit looking to ban the iphone 5/6/new iphone doesn't cover 3g technology, nor does it include patent '862.
http://www.unwiredview.com/2012/08/...ooglemotorola-is-going-after-apple-this-time/
It's one thing to win the 1 billion but to try and ban Samsung phones is greedy and will back fire in the end, especially since Apple only puts out one phone per year.
Think about it the Samsung phones in question are old ones the iphones that are in question with Motorola are the new one.
Think about it the Samsung phones in question are old ones the iphones that are in question with Motorola are the new one.
Wonder if I am wasting my time by saving my upgrade for the 5?? Wonder if I should just go ahead and use it and get a 4s?
Apple has far more ground to have Samsung devices banned than Google, or any other manufacturer for that matter, does to have Apple's banned.
That said, notice how successful Apple been in banning Galaxy smartphones in the USA? Not at all, at least yet. If this happens, it won't be over night, and will be a longer drawn out process than Apple trying to get Samsung's banned.
It's not front page material because the likelihood of it happening in the near future, it at all, is nearly zero.
That said, notice how successful Apple been in banning Galaxy smartphones in the USA? Not at all, at least yet. If this happens, it won't be over night, and will be a longer drawn out process than Apple trying to get Samsung's banned.
It's not front page material because the likelihood of it happening in the near future, it at all, is nearly zero.
While not front page material it is a legit concern. If Google can prove to the ITC that Apple has been and continues to be willfully infringing on patents and unwilling to negotiate licensing terms (if FRAND is applicable) then the ITC should act on this just as they did with HTC.
However they just submitted a new round of patent complaints and those won't be acted on for quite some time and the new iPhone would not be impacted right away.
However they just submitted a new round of patent complaints and those won't be acted on for quite some time and the new iPhone would not be impacted right away.
I'm just wondering if I should go ahead and get a 4s or if it would be worth the risk to wait and get a 5? Or if it would even be a risk at all to wait? Id hate to wait and not get a 5 at all or have to settle for an "updated lawsuit legal" changed 5.
Samsung just announced that if Apple puts out a LTE phone it will immediately sue as Samsung owns most LTE patents. This is getting interesting.
Yeah this is utter foolishness. How can Samsung own LTE patents? If this is true, I'd like to see the source.
These lawsuits need to stop.
BGR posted that Samsung owns 10% of the LTE patents granted. How do they own them? Well, evidently they developed parts of the technology and had it patented. I'm going to guess their patents involve how LTE interacts with hardware in a phone environment or with the software. If they have the patents it's only fair they are compensated just like Apple was.
Samsung does own 8% of LTE patents but they license the patents to Qualcomm which in turn sells the radio to Apple. Now i may be wrong but this sounds a lot like just another Frand type deal just like 3g was. Apples argument was just as Microsofts was is we buy from Qualcomm who is licensed to use your patented tech now you want us to pay you also its not going to happen. Samsungs trying to double dip
Could you imagine Google getting an iPhone banned? The uproar would be unprecedented.
Virgil, relax. The new phone is supposed to be out in what - 3 weeks? These suits take a lot longer than that.
But how could they ever win? I'm sure the development of LTE was a huge undertaking, a massive joint venture by many firms. It was an evolution of the industry, something Samsung cannot possibly claim exclusive rights over.
Last year, Forbes had an article on who has the most valuable LTE patents:
23% - LG
21% - Qualcomm
9% - Interdigital
9% - Motorola
9% - Nokia
9% - Samsung
6% - ZTE (!)
4% - Nortel (sold to Apple, EMC, Ericsson, Microsoft, RIM, Sony)
2% - Ericsson
1% - RIM
1% - Huawei
Ok. I still don't see how Samsung could seek a preliminary injunction against an LTE iPhone 6, though.
I just don't wanna end up either not being able to get a new iPhone or having to settle for one that's been all changed around because of this lawsuit.