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I sure hope her father doesn't get fired over this.

If Apple don’t embrace the viral marketing of this it will more likely be because dad outed himself as the guy who does the AP tech; posting it made him, the family targets and their home network communications at risk for phishing by unsavory types.

Was a cool vid but glad they pulled it.
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Why would either have to explicitly tell us that? And not saying it is not a lie of omission either. It's being recorded right smack in the middle of Apple's cafeteria where video recording is otherwise not allowed. It goes without saying that they had permission to make and post the vlog. To what extend Apple played a role it it's production we don't know, but nothing nefarious is going on. Really not a stretch to make that inference Apple isn't blind to the recording here.

Moreover the video she posted is not as a journalist, but as a teen with a vlog. I don't see how anyone could take it as a serious journalistic effort. There is nothing in the vlog that constitutes the serious review and unbiased testing effort that we will soon see on the pages of WSJ, NYT, The Verge, USA Today, and other typical Apple anointed first line review outlet. She didn't even get possession of the phone for any length of time as a journalist would have -- and off site. She played with a few screens in front of her dad. Her dad showed off an animoji on the video -- surrounded by colleagues and probably Apple security too.

Are you suggesting anything on YouTube by a teenager should be considered journalism? Because if you do then I see where our thinking separates. This is a puff piece, i.e., marketing wrapped, in an amateur video wrapper with the hope it would get attention and even go viral. For anyone to explicitly say they had Apple's imprimatur on this ruins that effect. But anyone using common sense also understands Apple's (and corporate in general) secrecy and accepts the premise here and don't take it literally.
Agreed, the Venn circles of the folks reading tech or business reviews will hardly intersect with a young lady’s lifestyle blog.

And For cripessakes, she videoed her interaction with her dad, and it was a short part of her overall video.
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Uhhh they disappear when you finish the pull down.
It happens when you pull up the dock, no?
 
The thing is other personal info was shown on his phone like his credit union he uses and also that meeting with apple with the persons name restricted meeting. Seems that would be confidential info he wouldn't want out even if it is a marketing ploy. Unless that's a fake restricted apple meeting and the persons name is a fake.
 
Why the heck is the phone so thick? Yuck. Looks thicker than the plus phones.

it's only .4mm thicker than the 7 plus... Probably not even noticeable in real world use. probably video angles making it look worse than it really is.
 
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it's only .4mm thicker than the 7 plus... Probably not even noticeable in real world use. probably video angles making it look worse than it really is.

and it got a thick level of camera bump....

Makes no sense with design at all...
 
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Well, that point is moot now since Apple's true intentions have led to the removal of the video. Thus since the actors (father & daughter) never had the permission, let alone instruction or encouragement, of Apple, they did not participate in the charade you were suggesting this all was.

There are two ways to interpret your initial estimation of what had happened:
1) You ability to guess the behaviour and motivation of the actors involved (in particular Apple but also father, daughter) is just, if we were to extrapolate from this incident, below average.
2) You have an estimation bias based on a preference of things not happening by accident but by design.

Apple's true intentions are still unknown -- to you, to me, to everyone here. The pulling of the video in no way is evidence of Apple not authorizing the video. It's possible that pulling the video after the bait was taken was part of the plan from the start. We just do not know.

You can speculate as well as I and make your own conclusions. It doesn't make either of us wrong since it IS all speculation on our parts. If the facts ever come out then we can talk. But regardless, is Apple's security that lax that it would allow the unauthorized recording? I think not. Industrial spies are everywhere, even in plain sight. No way Apple allow taping on it's campus w/o it's permission. Do you disagree with that?

My initial and current appraisal of the video is based solely on what is happening on the video and by whom. I'm not sure how you can so blithely ignore what is going on in the video, where it's taking place, and by whom, to make your own conclusion. But you are entitled to it, still. We'll disagree as to whether it's a PR viral video that got people talking days from launch or as you seem to imply, it was an "idiot" Apple engineer allowing his daughter to put his job in jeopardy with a vlog about an unreleased iPhone X.
 
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Ok, this whole thread is a bit misguided. This girl is not a teen. She has a channel on YouTube and a lot of vlog videos, all the same style and same type of music. One is about her finding out she's pregnant and telling her husband. So not some spoiled teen as has been the theme of most comments. I believe she did this for her vlog a while ago and posted it too early. So the whole idea that this was done by Apple is ridiculous. Her Dad probably made her take it down as soon as he saw it. I would guess it will be reposted in a couple of days.
 
Ok, this whole thread is a bit misguided. This girl is not a teen. She has a channel on YouTube and a lot of vlog videos, all the same style and same type of music. One is about her finding out she's pregnant and telling her husband. So not some spoiled teen as has been the theme of most comments. I believe she did this for her vlog a while ago and posted it too early. So the whole idea that this was done by Apple is ridiculous. Her Dad probably made her take it down as soon as he saw it. I would guess it will be reposted in a couple of days.

Even though she's not a teen she acts like one in the beginning of the video (spoiled, rich, valley girl).
 
Apple's true intentions are still unknown -- to you, to me, to everyone here. The pulling of the video in no way is evidence of Apple not authorizing the video. It's possible that pulling the video after the bait was taken was part of the plan from the start. We just do not know.
That new meeting notification would not have made the cut if this was a carefully calculated PR stunt. Not only did this employee allow a device to be shown to a non-briefed 3rd party before FCS, but the employee can also be considered to be leaking future product info by showing code names for future-facing products.

Apple is very careful - and if anything their arrogance leans towards a position of "our product speaks for itself, why would I need cheerleaders". This was reckless violation - not some cute attempt to target an audience.
 
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That new meeting notification would not have made the cut if this was a carefully calculated PR stunt. Not only did this employee allow a device to be shown to a non-briefed 3rd party before FCS, but the employee can also be considered to be leaking future product info by showing code names for future-facing products.

Apple is very careful - and if anything their arrogance leans towards a position of "our product speaks for itself, why would I need cheerleaders". This was reckless violation - not some cute attempt to target an audience.
See my post a few back. She's a vlogger, and not a teen. And agree her Dad was a bit reckless. Had this been posted in a few more days no one would have cared and she would have got a few clicks for cuteness. I think she jumped the gun.
 
Can anyone read the screen shot of the notifications screen that says tips for the iPhone X does that say 17 hrs ago or 17 days ago? That would tell how long he's had it.
 
Ok, this whole thread is a bit misguided. This girl is not a teen. She has a channel on YouTube and a lot of vlog videos, all the same style and same type of music. One is about her finding out she's pregnant and telling her husband. So not some spoiled teen as has been the theme of most comments. I believe she did this for her vlog a while ago and posted it too early. So the whole idea that this was done by Apple is ridiculous. Her Dad probably made her take it down as soon as he saw it. I would guess it will be reposted in a couple of days.
Wow, she looks and sounds so young. :eek: I would have expected to hear that she was 15 or 16. I have to admit, as a mom, it was a bit alarming hearing phrases like she made about shopping coming from what I thought was a teenager’s mouth and seeing what I thought was a dependent minor child being cavalier with her parents’ finances and a tiny bit jaded about her good circumstances. There’s always the worry about how fiscally responsible your kids will be when they have to go out into the world and support themselves.

Thanks for providing the perspective.

Well she certainly is a pretty and youthful looking adult. I guess she won’t be needing to worry about whether or not Sephora carries age defying makeup anytime soon!
 
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So this was filmed a while ago since he got that private measage invitation back in Sept. The video made it seem like it just happened today or a few days ago. This is more and more looking like she just posted this too early and got caught. I do not think this is Apple PR.
 
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This is more and more looking like she just posted this too early and got caught. I do not think this is Apple PR.
Technically, would still be in violation of the employer agreement even if posted on Nov 3. The violation is sharing an unreleased product with non-briefed people prior to FCS. And a date stamp to back that up. I know it sounds militantly rigid but spend enough time in corporate jobs and you will find it very unforgiving.
 
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Technically, would still be in violation of the employer agreement even if posted on Nov 3. The violation is sharing an unreleased product with non-briefed people prior to FCS. And a date stamp to back that up. I know it sounds militantly rigid but spend enough time in corporate jobs and you will find it very unforgiving.

I don't think they will fire him, even if it wasn't authorized.
The thing went sort of viral and it would be very bad publicity.
You all know how the articles would look like...
 
Can't believe that X also has uneven screen with warmer bottom half of the screen. Check the video out if you can.
 
Having been to Apple campus to work on some pre-release device sometime ago (and subjected to security + legal procedures), I am very sure Apple have a hand in this.

If not, the dad deserves to lose his job which also means he does not fit to be an Apple employee for not knowing which are the things that he and his daughter can or cannot do.
 
Apple is still seeing this as unreleased hardware (ask any developer that included "optimised for iPhone X" in their release notes. So technically it's a leak. And Apple is very clear about marketing.
What do mean by Apple is very clear about marketing? When it comes to marketing, any company including Apple, should be open to "unconventional" marketing that can be potentially more beneficial under certain circumstances. It helps to keep it real sometimes.
 
Why does the X look so thick in person?
Shot from a couple of feet away on the iPhone's ~28mm lens. Think of it like the saying, "The camera always adds 10 pounds".

Or should that be X pounds?

UPDATE: Saw the video again and realized it wasn't an iPhone doing the shooting, but a DSLR. I still think the focal length was ~28mm.
 
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Having been to Apple campus to work on some pre-release device sometime ago (and subjected to security + legal procedures), I am very sure Apple have a hand in this.

If not, the dad deserves to lose his job which also means he does not fit to be an Apple employee for not knowing which are the things that he and his daughter can or cannot do.

He told the commissary checkout he was an engineer on Apple Pay. Prolly won't miss him that much if they can him. ;)
 
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