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If that's what you believe to be true, then obviously you haven't done your homework. Check out the Archos AV line of products. The software IS there and it's been around for at least a year.
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If that's what you believe to be true, then obviously you haven't done your homework. Check out the Archos AV line of products. The software IS there and it's been around for at least a year.
Piarco75 said:
I also find it a little odd that they introduced the nano with new features... more features than the high end iPods. Unless they anticipated updating the big iPods shortly afterwards.
flowerbook said:
If you check the market, hard-disk based MPEG-4 recorders cost a small fortune (I've seen a 30GB model for 1300$CAN).
Combine the iSight with the iPod, add widescreen and H.264, and Apple would sell a TON of these babies. And a ton of 60GB iPods too.
Heck, make the iSight a requirement too (and/or a bundle pack). That way, people get a bonus: the iSight itself (which "lowers" the price of the setup, since you get more use out of the components).
As long as it works with my old 10GB iPod (ideally, any dock connector iPod/mini/nano), I'd buy one!
FunkSpaceMonkey said:I'd like it to be transparent bondi blue like the original iMacs..
Good point - the iPod Minis were color, but the display was black & white. Now the Nanos have color displays, but the devices themselves are black & white!
Eastend said:
The number of people with over 40GB of music is LESS than the number of people who would want an iPod Video. People are actually buying more of the 4 and 6GB players than the larger ones.
Video? OMFG that's so outlandish!!!! But 80GB of storage for music? That will really increase sales 10x!!!!
The thing is, if Apple wasn't trying to really do something with video, they would have probably already added it to the iPod. It would be a very small addition like contacts and photos, wih little fanfare. The iPod has a color screen already, and there are PortalPlayer controller chips with video built-in already. So it's not expensive at all to add video playback to current iPods, and it would another little toy feature like photos. Instead of showing your photos on the iPod screen or TV, you could also show home videos and other various clips.
The fact is, Apple will continue to add to the iPod in order to maintain current pricing levels, not increase them. That's why your starter-level $299 iPod now has color. If they never add anything, the price points would eventually have to drop, and Apple has a pretty good pricing structure they would like to maintain.
Bear said:
Amongst other things... which is my point... yes... we might get the iPod Movie & iTMovieS but that's not all we're getting.
Update on Nano Sales.
Introduce upgrades to Powerbooks, PowerMacs.
Upgrades to Cinema Displays <wishful thinking!>
Then let the 'One more things' roll!
Macam.
<Thanks Bear for not slating a newb!>
Eastend said:I'm with you on that one, but it looks like most of the people here are just thinking iPods. I need a good PowerBook. I will say that with a red curtain though it had to be cinema related, seems strange no video iPods, anyway we will all find out next week. Who know maybe it's an update on iDVD or iMovie.
Brian
The invite says One More Thing. Usually a "One More Thing" product is a barnburner. Updated PBs or PMs are not barnburners. Plus, as you note, the red curtain isn't there just because the designer thought it looked cute.
Yvan256 said:
Yeah, I was thinking of the same thing. Being able to plug in an iSight to iPod (through a dock to iSight type special connector) would be sweet. Actually, it would be better if it was some sort of handle plus connector, so you wouldn't be holding an iPod and separate iSight.
The quality wouldn't be as good as your standard camcorders, but it might give good enough results for home video, and would definitely be a fun toy.
Movies?
I'm not sure if someone posted this link already (don't want to read 10 pages worth of comments and replies), but here goes.
Universal To Put Its Movies Online.
Maybe the "one more thing" isn't an iPod at all. Maybe it's a new software ("iMovies"?).
Maybe the current iPods/nanos can play videos too and Universal will be the first source?
Maybe the sun will explode on monday and we'll never know? Imagine all the possibilities!
I'm not sure if someone posted this link already (don't want to read 10 pages worth of comments and replies), but here goes.
Universal To Put Its Movies Online.
Maybe the "one more thing" isn't an iPod at all. Maybe it's a new software ("iMovies"?).
Maybe the current iPods/nanos can play videos too and Universal will be the first source?
Maybe the sun will explode on monday and we'll never know? Imagine all the possibilities!
Herer's something interesting.
When Apple announced it was going to webcast it's financial stuff Oct.11th I bookmarked it..
Here's what you get now:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/earningsq405/
When Apple announced it was going to webcast it's financial stuff Oct.11th I bookmarked it..
Here's what you get now:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/earningsq405/
NicP said:
And you can also add: People who want sufficient space to grow their existing music collections. My 60GB has 9 GBs of space left...I'll be all over the 80GB and I'm hoping it's even bigger than that - bring on the 100GB!
Bear said:
Apple wouldn't try to look for a loophole. They would work with the movie industry. For example, the movie industry might allow iTunes to rip DVD's if all ripped movies have DRM. The DRM would limit playback to a single iPod, and could even have a time limitation (say 90 days), to prevent people from amassing movies by rental. After the expiration period, you could stick the DVD back in your Mac to 're-validate' for another 90 days (so don't need to re-rip.)
That would make more sense to me than trying to download movies over the internet.
A high quality (just about DVD level) MPEG4 video would take about 1GB of space. An 80GB iPod could store tons of movies, that's not the limitation. The limitation would be trying to download 1GB at a time. Talk about NOT video on demand!
Alex Cutter said:Yes. Because you don't have a need for an 80GB iPod, then no one does.
Clearly "toughboy" is about 13-15 years old. Give him about 5-10 years and he'll realize there's a whole other world of music other/better than Jessica Simpson and he'll be dying for a larger iPod.
I see nothing out of the ordinary for a financial results conference call. What are you refering to in specific?Peace said:
m-dogg said:
There are over 100, but not enough to make a big deal about it. Upping the 60GB iPod to 80GB iPod is like Mac speedbumps. Cool, but not 'One more thing' worthy.
You're missing the OP's point. People are choosing the 4 and 6GB players over even the 20GB much less 60GB players. Adding capacity is cool, but won't increase sales. It's basically giving people more of what they don't really need.
Don't get me wrong, I would love a thin 80GB iPod. But Apple needs to update the full-sized iPods in a way that will increase sales (they are lagging behind the smaller iPods.) It's time for a new version anyway.
madmaxmedia said:
Given that miniDV (NTSC) is 720 x 480 and the iSight is 640x480, that wouldn't be too much of a drop in quality. Especially if you can record in H.264 (better than miniDV compression) and iPod storage (compared to miniDV tapes).
And the price (new device + iSight + 20GB iPod) would probably still be lower than an HD-based camcorder (especially given the number of people who already have an iPod, it makes the Apple solution purchasing price even lower).
The only missing thing would be the HD and widescreen part.
Which means three things, really:
- introduction of the iSight 2, HD and widescreen capabilities. Which makes no sense whatsoever, until a few seconds later.
- introduction of the new "Apple camcorder", which uses the iSight or iSight 2 (iSight 2 required for HD and/or widescreen) and has a cable to connect any dock connector iPod for the actual data recording which makes the camcorder even lighter (hard drive-based iPod required for HD recording).
- introduction of the 80GB iPod, to allow for longer recording times. It replaces the 60GB iPod. The 30GB iPod is also dropped in favor of a 40GB model. These new iPods get the new features found on the iPod nano.
And THAT is what Steve meant when he said "2005 would be the year of HD".
i dont have time to read all of the many posts here, so forgive me if this has been said...
google news/http://cnet.com.au/mp3players/harddisk/0,39029137,40057403,00.htm
made it sound like the vpod was a done deal, basically, because of the iTMS changes.
i really think apple/jobs should put a little less weight on some of its 'boutique' hardware and go a bit deeper with the heavy hitters like PMs/PBs.
google news/http://cnet.com.au/mp3players/harddisk/0,39029137,40057403,00.htm
made it sound like the vpod was a done deal, basically, because of the iTMS changes.
i really think apple/jobs should put a little less weight on some of its 'boutique' hardware and go a bit deeper with the heavy hitters like PMs/PBs.
Yvan256 said:
Maybe something like iMovie?
As for the sun thing, that would be kind of funny (not the sun itself) but the fact that we'd never know
I've done a 180 on thinking "one more thing" means just one announcement (with the others being handled outside the event). I can see Steve presenting it just like that (and I think your general predictions are good).SULLY23 said:
So I now think everything (Macs and iPods alike) WILL be in the presentation, even if some of the releases are minor... just to give Steve the chance to SAY "one more thing"
Which everyone will know is coming, and yes, that means it's a BIG one more thing.
Now that everyone has presented many reasons why Vpod and 80 would not make sense. Think about it in this way
Yes, majority of people would not watch feature length movie on a 1.5 x 1.5 screen, plus add in the fact that MPAA is not ready to deal with legal downloads on a mass scale. and the fact how many movies could you actually store on 80 gigs of the quality you would be willing to pay for.
However, think about it this way, video is a nice extra to have on your iPod as such as pictures are today. Not many use it but it is a nice feature to have and a great way to carry a picture slide show with you or download pictures form your camera. Great extra but not the primary use.
Now, won't it be nice to be able to have short video clips like music vidoes or even the new video podcasts on you ipod and be able to play them or show them on a TV as you might want to do. Again, not the primary use but a great extra.
If Apple would do this, it allow them to test the waters and see if people would actually do this and allow the MPAA to see if they would like to join the party.
Instead of looking at all the reason why is does not make sense look at the reason it might make sense.
Yes, majority of people would not watch feature length movie on a 1.5 x 1.5 screen, plus add in the fact that MPAA is not ready to deal with legal downloads on a mass scale. and the fact how many movies could you actually store on 80 gigs of the quality you would be willing to pay for.
However, think about it this way, video is a nice extra to have on your iPod as such as pictures are today. Not many use it but it is a nice feature to have and a great way to carry a picture slide show with you or download pictures form your camera. Great extra but not the primary use.
Now, won't it be nice to be able to have short video clips like music vidoes or even the new video podcasts on you ipod and be able to play them or show them on a TV as you might want to do. Again, not the primary use but a great extra.
If Apple would do this, it allow them to test the waters and see if people would actually do this and allow the MPAA to see if they would like to join the party.
Instead of looking at all the reason why is does not make sense look at the reason it might make sense.