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No Blu-ray before the Mac Pro. I will fight this to the death.
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I agree. Maybe it is just a minimal power jump but I can't see anything new coming until the new chips are out. I'm a little skepitical but maybe Apple has arranged some sort of deal to get the chips a little early. Only a short amount of time will tell. I only think that this is a possibility so it is simply a guess.
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I agree. Maybe it is just a minimal power jump but I can't see anything new coming until the new chips are out. I'm a little skepitical but maybe Apple has arranged some sort of deal to get the chips a little early. Only a short amount of time will tell. I only think that this is a possibility so it is simply a guess.
MacRumors did have articles on the next update for Mac laptops being in June. It's not terribly surprising even if you did wait that entire time. Keep in mind I waited for the original Santa Rosa MacBook update from May until November as well.
Once again why is the iMac being touted? The only benefit it can gain is a quad core processor which isn't out until much later this year. We're already getting the majority of the features of Montevina with the uprated Santa Rosa. The iMac can handle the heat of earlier laptop components while Apple's laptops are on the razor's edge of cooling.
I can't see what this would prove-I mean, they'd just have to sell the Feb. Penryns at a discounted price, and they're STILL trying to sell the previous generation at a $200 discount. There's no way they'd update; they'd lose too much money. I'm waiting for a redesign at this point anyway so unless it's more than just a spec bump it won't matter to me.
If its a new form factor then just maybe I could see it since Apple could distinguish it from the old model as to why its out so soon. Steve would be financially risky to hold back a completed product. But why get intel to make a special chip for the current MBP if a new ones out about now.
Mac Mini update seems so much more likely.
Mac Mini update seems so much more likely.
A 12/ 13 inch Aluminum MBP makes perfect sense...
There is definitely a market for a 12/13 MBP level aluminum spec'd model for four reasons.
1.) people are still clamoring for a fully spec'd, Light, MBP level laptop. The Mac Book Air gives away too much in usefull specs to be seriously considered in a one laptop home.
2.)There are folks that will not buy a plastic laptop, regardless of specs. I do many keynote and powerpoint presentations in corporate settings. Trust me, I am breaking out the aluminum MBP vs the white or black macbook consistently.
3.)The only real differences between a TOTL mac blackbook and a baseline 15 MBP is the screen size and the graphics card as specs are basically the same. The problem for
is that the separate graphics card is a deal maker to most people, especially if you plan to use it for more than a year. More powerful programs demanding graphic power are available more than ever. In my opinion, a separate graphics card is a must have If you are looking for any logetivity in your purchase. If ever decides to make a 12/13 inch, aluminum MBP with a separate graphics card again, it would absolutely fly off the shelves.
4.) The 12 Inch PBG4 is iconic because the screen is set vertically as as opposed to the horizontal setup in the current Macbooks. This layout works perfectly on middle seats on airplanes. The screen layout is great for using software suites iwork, iLife, Word and others.
Again,, in my opinion is missing the boat on this as well as a mid priced mini tower. Hopefully, the folks in Cupertino will mine thier history a bit and update a classic, aka the Volkswagon beetle...
There is definitely a market for a 12/13 MBP level aluminum spec'd model for four reasons.
1.) people are still clamoring for a fully spec'd, Light, MBP level laptop. The Mac Book Air gives away too much in usefull specs to be seriously considered in a one laptop home.
2.)There are folks that will not buy a plastic laptop, regardless of specs. I do many keynote and powerpoint presentations in corporate settings. Trust me, I am breaking out the aluminum MBP vs the white or black macbook consistently.
3.)The only real differences between a TOTL mac blackbook and a baseline 15 MBP is the screen size and the graphics card as specs are basically the same. The problem for
is that the separate graphics card is a deal maker to most people, especially if you plan to use it for more than a year. More powerful programs demanding graphic power are available more than ever. In my opinion, a separate graphics card is a must have If you are looking for any logetivity in your purchase. If ever decides to make a 12/13 inch, aluminum MBP with a separate graphics card again, it would absolutely fly off the shelves.4.) The 12 Inch PBG4 is iconic because the screen is set vertically as as opposed to the horizontal setup in the current Macbooks. This layout works perfectly on middle seats on airplanes. The screen layout is great for using
software suites iwork, iLife, Word and others.Again,
, in my opinion is missing the boat on this as well as a mid priced mini tower. Hopefully, the folks in Cupertino will mine thier history a bit and update a classic, aka the Volkswagon beetle...I'm hoping this is true and tomarrow we get new macbooks/macbook pros! I'm still within the 14 days (actually still 12 days left) and will wait until tomarrow to see if there is a refresh.
I'm crossing my fingers for the macbooks to be updated especially with the led backlighting so I can exchange my 17" hi res mbp for a 13.3" led backlit macbook! But then if they update somehow the mbp with the montevina.. I might get sucked into exchanging for one of those...
I'm crossing my fingers for the macbooks to be updated especially with the led backlighting so I can exchange my 17" hi res mbp for a 13.3" led backlit macbook! But then if they update somehow the mbp with the montevina.. I might get sucked into exchanging for one of those...
Um...the MB/iBook/12"PB can all use an external monitor. I want a small form laptop to slip into my photo bag when I shoot on site. I had to settle for a MacBook since the 15" MBP was too big and bulky for my purpose. A 12/13" MBP would be the perfect machine for me.
Of course, my desire for a proper GPU is mainly for gaming.
The macbooks where updated in November, then again in February, thats 3 months.
If this is true, the macbook will be updated 3 times since the last mini update
Come on Apple, yes we know it doesn't bring you as much profit, but if you want people to switch you need to make a decent mini.
If this is true, the macbook will be updated 3 times since the last mini update
Come on Apple, yes we know it doesn't bring you as much profit, but if you want people to switch you need to make a decent mini.
I was actually going to go to the apple store today to exchange my 17" hi res mbp for a 2.4Ghz macbook.. but now I'm going to save my trip and wait for tomorrow. Maybe I should grab the lowest end mac mini and wait until the refresh comes?
The mini...
... is an afterthought. Apple would rather try and switch people to a Macbook or an imac, this much is clear.
... is an afterthought. Apple would rather try and switch people to a Macbook or an imac, this much is clear.
Very true... but these are the folk that the MBA is aimed at so an overlapping market for apple to avoid there.
Having said that the 12"PBs always did have very crappy graphics cards compared with the larger models. In the end they were little more than aluminum clad ibooks (which of course appeals to the corporate crowd as you suggest)
If
My intuition would be the same as yours here but apple either don't feel the same about market potential or see a small form pro machine as cannibalising too many other sales.
4.) The 12 Inch PBG4 is iconic because the screen is set vertically as as opposed to the horizontal setup in the current Macbooks. This layout works perfectly on middle seats on airplanes. The screen layout is great for using
I loved my 12" PB! (but I'm just as happy with my MBA + Blackbook)
4.) The 12 Inch PBG4 is iconic because the screen is set vertically as as opposed to the horizontal setup in the current Macbooks. This layout works perfectly on middle seats on airplanes. The screen layout is great for using
What do you mean, "the screen is set vertically"?
This 13" MacBook Pro could use a 1440x900 screen like the Thinkpad X300. Problem solved.
Its very much possible especially seeing as the last rev was just 3 months from the Nov SR revision
Why not just jump to Montevina 3 months later after what was merely a processor/memory/HDD bump of an update
Also with back 2 school season upon us (which the MacBook line is virtually made for)
Its HIGHLY possible...i think its gonna happen.
4:3 standard aspect ratio as opposed to 16:9 widescreen format
Why not just jump to Montevina 3 months later after what was merely a processor/memory/HDD bump of an update
Also with back 2 school season upon us (which the MacBook line is virtually made for)
Its HIGHLY possible...i think its gonna happen.
4:3 standard aspect ratio as opposed to 16:9 widescreen format
Everytime the macs are updated, there's a huge number of folks that are found "hanging from the shower rod" (metaphorically speaking). C'mon guys, get over yourselves a bit. I bought my ipod touch a few weeks before x-mas and I wasn't happy about having to pay 20 bucks to get the new applications that came out after x-mas. Had I been within my return window, i'd have opted to go that route. I wasn't and ended up ponying up the 20 bones and have been quite happy with the results.
I'm in the market for 2 Blackbooks, one for me, one for son going off to college next fall. An update would put a lot of the 2.4/2gb/250 blackbooks up at reduced prices. At which time, I'll pull the trigger on the two of them.
I was at an apple store today comparing the various models. The MBA didnt' do it for me and the aluminum cases were absolutely filthy looking. Maybe it was scratches/wear marks. I don't know, but I want nothing to do with the metal cases. GIve me a hard polymer/plastic case that resists dents and marks. And as much as I don't like having to pay more for the black color, I willl because it looks like it'll hold up better long term.
I'm in the market for 2 Blackbooks, one for me, one for son going off to college next fall. An update would put a lot of the 2.4/2gb/250 blackbooks up at reduced prices. At which time, I'll pull the trigger on the two of them.
I was at an apple store today comparing the various models. The MBA didnt' do it for me and the aluminum cases were absolutely filthy looking. Maybe it was scratches/wear marks. I don't know, but I want nothing to do with the metal cases. GIve me a hard polymer/plastic case that resists dents and marks. And as much as I don't like having to pay more for the black color, I willl because it looks like it'll hold up better long term.
Agreeing to disagree...
Again, you illustrate my point. Most people only own one laptop and maybe a desktop. You have a Blackbook and a MBA that, spec wise is less of a machine than your Blackbook. I would want to have ONE laptop with every spec available that is portable... like a updated 12/13 inch MBP or my current 15/17 inch MPB models.
Very true... but these are the folk that the MBA is aimed at so an overlapping market for apple to avoid there.
Sad, but true.
Having said that the 12"PBs always did have very crappy graphics cards compared with the larger models. In the end they were little more than aluminum clad ibooks (which of course appeals to the corporate crowd as you suggest)
Again, my point exactly. There is no difference in a top of the line black Macbook vs a baseline MBP other than screen size and separate graphics card. Wrap a top of the line black MB in aluminum and separate graphics card and you are in business.
My intuition would be the same as yours here but apple either don't feel the same about market potential or see a small form pro machine as cannibalising too many other sales.
Then we can agree to disagree as I believe it would be a huge hit and not steal sales. I would not buy a MBA because of the sacrifices in specs. You buy a 15/17 inch MBP mainly for specs and screen real estate so those folks will buy those regardless.
I loved my 12" PB! (but I'm just as happy with my MBA + Blackbook)
Again, you illustrate my point. Most people only own one laptop and maybe a desktop. You have a Blackbook and a MBA that, spec wise is less of a machine than your Blackbook. I would want to have ONE laptop with every spec available that is portable... like a updated 12/13 inch MBP or my current 15/17 inch MPB models.
screen setting
The 12 inch PBG4 screen is set vertically like a 8 by 11 inch piece of paper. This works great when using Word/Pages type apps.
The current MB screen is set horizontally for itunes movie/ video/ iphoto viewing. Definitely a difference in how you view your apps. If you know anyone with a 12 inch PBG4, you can see the difference for yourself. This is why a 12 inch viewing screen vs. the current 13 inch is no different for me as the 12 inch vertical setup works better for the apps I use, especially Pages/Word.
The 12 inch PBG4 screen is set vertically like a 8 by 11 inch piece of paper. This works great when using Word/Pages type apps.
The current MB screen is set horizontally for itunes movie/ video/ iphoto viewing. Definitely a difference in how you view your apps. If you know anyone with a 12 inch PBG4, you can see the difference for yourself. This is why a 12 inch viewing screen vs. the current 13 inch is no different for me as the 12 inch vertical setup works better for the apps I use, especially Pages/Word.
It's not that clear. The Mac Mini has not been updated or replaced, even though a lot of people would be happy for a refreshed one right now. I think that it makes sense for Apple to start refreshing their lines more often and always stay on top. Face it, after 8 or 9 months, a brand new Mac is not quite that new or quite that advanced anymore. I'd be happy if Apple started to get into a 3 to 4 months update cycle on all their Macs.