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I was in the market for a new MacBook in 2015, but ended up waiting until 2017 for Kaby Lake Y and its upgraded media features (HEVC and 4K and DRM). Plus I hated the keyboard of the 2015 (and the CPU of the 2015 seemed a bit lethargic too).

If I were in the market today, I think I might wait for Ice Lake Y in 2019, mainly for Thunderbolt, but a possible quad core would also be a nice bonus.

However, I have the luxury of being able to wait based on sketchy rumours, since my main machine is an iMac, and I always have other Mac laptops to fall back on anyway.

I wonder what the next iMac will bring
 
I wonder what the next iMac will bring
6-core i5 and i7 in 2018 is almost guaranteed IMO.

I wanted to wait for this, but thought I couldn't because of budget year reasons. So, I compromised and bought in 2017 with Kaby Lake (with the 4K HEVC media upgrades).
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There's always the 'wait until the next one' argument, that never really worked for me. I like it though (save some money) :D
It's worked pretty well for me. Back over a decade ago, I didn't want another 15" Mac, so I waited for a 13" MacBook Pro even though it didn't exist. They released a 13" aluminum MacBook in 2008 but it wasn't quite what I wanted so I waited another year, and they released what I wanted in 2009 as a MacBook Pro. I still have that laptop as my secondary laptop, now with SSD and 8 GB RAM.

With the most recent MacBooks, 2015 had a slow CPU, crappy keyboard, mediocre touchpad, and mediocre camera, so I waited. 2016 didn't improve much, so I waited some more. 2017 fixed the CPU and fixed the keyboard and brought the media decoder upgrades as expected so I bought.
 
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6-core i5 and i7 in 2018 is almost guaranteed IMO.

I wanted to wait for this, but thought I couldn't because of budget year reasons. So, I compromised and bought in 2017 with Kaby Lake (with the 4K HEVC media upgrades).

I wonder if there will be a redesign, I know Apple are suppose to also be working on a 13” MacBook to replace the Air so I will see what happens with that also, I’m guessing it will have better specs than the 12” version.
 
I wonder if there will be a redesign, I know Apple are suppose to also be working on a 13” MacBook to replace the Air so I will see what happens with that also, I’m guessing it will have better specs than the 12” version.

Interesting but having a 13" Air redesign just does not make sense with MacBook 12' and MacBook Pro.
Surely if they put a 128GB in the MacBook just like they have with the MacBook Pro, then they could drop the price by £200?
So basically nearly hitting £1000 point. (Yes, 128GB only makes me feel ill, but there are people that stream everything and use iCloud & Google drive etc - not for me as I like to download and keep everything on my MacBook - but a great friend has just bought the 128GB MacBook Pro. He uses external drives & cloud based).
Although I have to point out the the 12" MacBook was £1050 with 256GB before Apple had some kind of weird frenzy and put their products prices up by 20%. I've never forgiven them for that and can't believe in all honesty how they got away with it!
 
Yes, by 0.1 GHz, but with a higher TDP. Cannon Lake may already have a slightly higher TDP to begin with though.

7Y30 1.0 GHz <— Apple doesn’t use this
7Y32 1.1 GHz <— Apple uses this at 1.2

So perhaps 2018 will look like this?

8Y30 1.1 GHz <— Apple doesn’t use this
8Y32 1.2 GHz <— Apple uses this at 1.3

The key point here is these are dual-core. As expected, no quad-core in sight for 2018.
Omg the new A11X in the iPad Pro is going to destroy Cannonlake Y series. It’s gonna make my new iPad pro look slow...if the A11 vs A10 is anything to go by. I wonder what intel has in store for these chips because at the rate Apple is going you’ll see A series chips in Macbooks in 2019.
 
Omg the new A11X in the iPad Pro is going to destroy Cannonlake Y series. It’s gonna make my new iPad pro look slow...if the A11 vs A10 is anything to go by. I wonder what intel has in store for these chips because at the rate Apple is going you’ll see A series chips in Macbooks in 2019.
Ice Lake Y is rumoured to be quad-core, in 2019.

A series MacBooks would be a major problem for many if not most users, at least in the near term. Even if they did introduce such a beast in 2019, there’s no way I’d buy one until say 2021 or something.

BTW, at least according to Geekbench 4, A series chips are already faster than Intel Y chips.
 
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ARM chips have grown in performance so much compared to previous iterations this past decade compared to x86 which seemed to have been relatively stagnant (3-5% improvement per gen with the Core I3/5/7 series), pretty nice to see ARM become somewhat competitive with the U series even. Even AMD is back on track, good too see the increased competition and options for manufacturers.
 
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Yes, it seems that Apple prices everything in US dollars and converts from there. So if your country's currency loses value vs. the US dollar, Apple pricing locally will go up in your country. Furthermore, Apple seems to build in a bit of a cushion to account for currency fluctuation.
 
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Yes, it seems that Apple prices everything in US dollars and converts from there. So if your country's currency loses value vs. the US dollar, Apple pricing locally will go up in your country. Furthermore, Apple seems to build in a bit of a cushion to account for currency fluctuation.

That is true. To some extent. A few years ago, dollar was very weak when compared to euro. And I do mean very weak. Did Apple drop prices because of currency fluctuation? Of course not. Apple will change prices because of currency fluctuation. But only when it suits them :)
 
That is true. To some extent. A few years ago, dollar was very weak when compared to euro. And I do mean very weak. Did Apple drop prices because of currency fluctuation? Of course not. Apple will change prices because of currency fluctuation. But only when it suits them :)
When the US dollar dropped heavily against the Canadian dollar, the Canadian prices did drop. However, they didn't drop anywhere near as much as the US dollar drop.

But then a few months later the US dollar regained a lot of the value. That's what I was talking about Apple building in some cushion to protect themselves.
 
Y’all make me worry I’ll not get a MacBook 12” update that I can buy this year
 
Y’all make me worry I’ll not get a MacBook 12” update that I can buy this year

I heard some sites claim that analysts said that major changes will be next year and only an incremental CPU upgrade this year. Not sure though but you will find out in like 3 months.
 
I heard some sites claim that analysts said that major changes will be next year and only an incremental CPU upgrade this year. Not sure though but you will find out in like 3 months.
I can live with missing major changes weirdly. I can’t live with waiting anymore.
 
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If you hear anything positive about Intel shipping the Y chips soon, post here. Im thinking that is a big factor here.
 
Them = people who voted for Brexit and caused UK pound to collapse. Apple actually took shockingly long to raise the prices.
True - the UK is in a terrible mess. I can tell you that it's a truly bad place to live because of Brexit. It's the nastiest most cruel, clueless thing that could ever of been thought of in this connected century. It's pretty clear that the politics are doing it so that they themselves can become very rich and then move somewhere else (provided someone will actually have them).
Price wise, I certainly have not seen other American companies (apart from SONOS) increase their prices by 20%!!! I guess that's the way capitalism works - either buy into it or don't.
 
That is true. To some extent. A few years ago, dollar was very weak when compared to euro. And I do mean very weak. Did Apple drop prices because of currency fluctuation? Of course not. Apple will change prices because of currency fluctuation. But only when it suits them :)

...which I suppose also applies to lowering prices. From what I noticed they change prices when the online store goes down for "maintenance". Euro prices have gone slightly up with last updates.

I certainly have not seen other American companies (apart from SONOS) increase their prices by 20%!!!
Microsoft did it months before Apple, I seem to recall (I read that here, and MR might not be the best source of Microsoft news ;) ) I think the shock was partly caused by how long Apple took to bump the prices instead of doing it at the same time as others. And by sheer shamelessness of them raising prices also on trashMP and Mac Mini 2014. There was quite some anger here about the fact people hoped for trashMP update and they sure got a price UP-date.

Sorry about the political content by the way, I didn't want to drag this Pandora's box in and open it. I'm trying to keep my personal opinion out of it, at least.
 
I hope Apple was a partner that intel started shipping to at the end of 2017 and that we get a March refresh of the Macbooks.
March seems way, way too optimistic.
BTW, as mentioned before, the leak that indicated Intel shipped a few Cannon Lake mobile CPUs was for Cannon Lake U, not the Y parts that would make into the MacBook. The U parts are used in the MacBook Pro

I wonder though if Apple will simply wait and ship both the MacBook and MacBook Pro at the same time, regardless of which chips are available first.
 
I think it’s possible we see an updated MacBook either this month or next (March-April time) for the last couple of years Apple have updated them around that time.

However what I’m not sure about is when this rumoured 13” version of the MacBook will release, if there isn’t an event and just silent updates to the MacBook and new iPads I can’t see them releasing a 13” at the same time it’s something that’s worth an event, however if they do hold an event this year either this month or next then I could see it being announced there, other then that my guess would be WWDC or October time.
 
I think it’s possible we see an updated MacBook either this month or next (March-April time) for the last couple of years Apple have updated them around that time.

However what I’m not sure about is when this rumoured 13” version of the MacBook will release, if there isn’t an event and just silent updates to the MacBook and new iPads I can’t see them releasing a 13” at the same time it’s something that’s worth an event, however if they do hold an event this year either this month or next then I could see it being announced there, other then that my guess would be WWDC or October time.
So basically you're saying we may get an update in spring, summer or fall. :D
 
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