I'd just own an iPad Pro if I could make apps with it and build sites with it. Everyone needs a way to save data etc...Indeed, there's a fair few things I'd really love to be added into the iPad Pro version of iOS. Things to make it a bit more, well, Pro
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New MacBook Pro and 13-Inch 'MacBook' Coming Next Week, iMac and Display Not Ready Yet
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The problem is even the best engineers and production experts cannot take a product released to them in April or May and build a reliable architecture around it for release in October; it's not real world to expect such.
Think about how quickly people smack talk Apple when a new product or OS currently comes out with errors and bugs here on MR. The current iOS, 10, was built probably at least a year before it was released in beta for almost a year and yet look at the bugs which average users have encountered. Now shorten the developement and release process to just a few months and all we will have is a disaster, not a first class machine.
The saving data issue doesn't really bother me. Yeah iOS has its limits, but to get around those I use a Kingston MobileLite Wireless, it's such a handy and versatile wee thing. One of my best purchases.
The planning and relocating of any large business is a big deal, as I said when they have settled into their new HQ I'm sure its exciting times ahead.
True. And that's not even taking into account that the Kaby Lake SKUs appropriate for the MBP will not be released at all until 2017 (January for the 13" and June for the 15"). But why do I get the feeling that the "Waiting for Kaby Lake" thread will be 1000+ pages of tears and snark about watch-straps for Apple not having fitted non-existent chips to it's product lines by then?
not sure why every rumor mentiones skylake. usbc and tb3 are kaby lake native technologies and the timing seems to be 100% to have kaby lake cpus. and i hope they won't screw up and will deliver them, because otherwise another year for my mid2009 macbook
not sure why every rumor mentiones skylake. usbc and tb3 are kaby lake native technologies and the timing seems to be 100% to have kaby lake cpus. and i hope they won't screw up and will deliver them, because otherwise another year for my mid2009 macbook
The answers are all in the thread. in fact you need only look few posts up.http://www.iclarified.com/57138/apple-adds-arm-support-to-macos-sierra-kernel
They are saying ARM support.
They are saying ARM support.
sorry, haven't read all 29 pages. just a few of them.
but you know - once there was time when apple got cpus in advance. i.e. my mid2009 macbook
i hope they can do it again... man can dream.
sorry, haven't read all 29 pages. just a few of them.
but you know - once there was time when apple got cpus in advance. i.e. my mid2009 macbook
That's true. I was never sure whether they got a sweetheart deal for a few years for switching to Intel, whether there was some Job RDF'ing in play with Intel management or whether it was Intel's way of "motivating" what were at the time some very dull and poor quality PC's from OEM (certainly the PC OEM's have been innovating a lot more in recent years).
However I'm not sure it's a good idea to take anything early from Intel these days. Haswell and Skylake were beset with issues at launch. Jumping on Skylake early left the Microsoft Surfacebook struggling with problems not of Microsoft's creation and, I think, did a lot to blacken the name of that device early in it's life.
TL;DR there will likely be Kaby Lake rMBPs late next year of early 2018. (this is a guess but it will certainly be no sooner than mid 2017). When the Skylake ones are released you won't be missing much not having Kaby Lake. They are barely faster.
I look forward to that 50 page affair, too.
I always felt that Apple gave the stink eye to professionals years ago when it began focusing more on their lower end product line than their high end. At the end of the day, I share the sentiment with the other user who suspects the Mac Pro, and to a minute extension, the MacBook Pro doesn't have as a good ROI as their other products.
I always felt that Apple gave the stink eye to professionals years ago when it began focusing more on their lower end product line than their high end. At the end of the day, I share the sentiment with the other user who suspects the Mac Pro, and to a minute extension, the MacBook Pro doesn't have as a good ROI as their other products.
Metal wasn't designed specifically for games. It was designed for any app that wanted to take advantage of GPU acceleration: think FCPX, Adobe Creative Suite, etc.
I'll cut to the chase and suggest that no rumor of an impending new Mac Pro is bad news. For Apple, and all its customers.
As many, I'm not even presently considering buying one, nor may ever be. It could only ever enjoy a relatively small, if dedicated, customer base. But that is beside the point.
With automobiles and other industries the flagship product is usually one that few can or will purchase. However it sets the standards and purpose of the company, its direction and aspirations. As well with technology derived for which ultimately benefits the entire brand.
It will be a sad day—it perhaps already now—when Apple's highest aspirations and flagship are represented by a consumer phone instead of what professionals aspire to.
It seems that come October 27 there will be no new Mac Pro offered. If however there is no mention that day of when a new version can be expected (as should be and long overdue) then dark news indeed by omission.
As many, I'm not even presently considering buying one, nor may ever be. It could only ever enjoy a relatively small, if dedicated, customer base. But that is beside the point.
With automobiles and other industries the flagship product is usually one that few can or will purchase. However it sets the standards and purpose of the company, its direction and aspirations. As well with technology derived for which ultimately benefits the entire brand.
It will be a sad day—it perhaps already now—when Apple's highest aspirations and flagship are represented by a consumer phone instead of what professionals aspire to.
It seems that come October 27 there will be no new Mac Pro offered. If however there is no mention that day of when a new version can be expected (as should be and long overdue) then dark news indeed by omission.
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You're right about all of those things actually, plus I didn't realize the Kaby Lake chips shipping are underpowered 'notebook' chips, not the kind of i7 beast a lot of us are looking for.
There are going to be alot of disapointed people here next week... I predict nothing new or breathtaking being announce next week... Apple is saving the "real"?? cool stuffs for 2020 when everybody else and their mamas have had those for years in their systems.... Gotta love Apple under Tim Cook...
"The pro market is a very tiny slice of their revenue now"
That tiny slice you refer to is worth approximately $20 billion a year, which is bigger than most companies on the planet. Not bad for a tiny slice.
The iMacs already have storage options up to 3TB. And it's a desktop computer. I can plug in 20TB if I feel like it.
Are you actually basing this on anything or just giving us the benefit of your entirely made up head canon?
I can understand frustrations with delays, but anyone complaining about spec, are you real? Considering most Mac's last 5+ years, the spec jump will be incredible for anyone looking to buy. If you buy a new Mac every year - you clearly have more money than sense which explains your disappointment
So, so true. It's like any modern electronic device purchase. In fact it can apply to several different categories, the more frequently you upgrade, the less of an improvement you see.
I was like that with my iPhones, I bought every one, every year and sometimes you just sort of go, meh, is that it? But for the first time ever I skipped a generation. I was, god knows how, sensible and skipped the iPhone 6s. It just gave me the, meh, factor before it even came out. But I've bought an iPhone 7 Plus and my god it's like the feeling you got when you received your very first iPhone (well almost) there's so much new and improved it's awesome. Such a good idea, I may try it again sometime
My Macs though, those I keep for several years. I used to update more often but I regularly found myself wondering why I'd bothered, there seemed to be very little difference between them. Far better to wait several years and be astonished.
I was mostly on board with what you're saying (low volume flagship products representing the pinnacle of engineering and direction for a company) but when you got to the part where not having a Mac Pro on the market meant the next best thing was iPhones then I lost you. Wouldn't it be new rMBPs? New iMacs? Are these not used by professionals? I've been carrying an rMBP for years and, last I checked, I'm very much a professional.
Drrrrrrummm rollllllll for disappointment................*
Penny pinching Tim Crook will have made even more BTO price gouging, terrible decisions about RAM and HD sizes.
Pay more for less.
It would be nice if I was pleasantly surprised, but I am realistic.
Apple are pure disappointment these days.
Penny pinching Tim Crook will have made even more BTO price gouging, terrible decisions about RAM and HD sizes.
Pay more for less.
It would be nice if I was pleasantly surprised, but I am realistic.
Apple are pure disappointment these days.
Oh please.. Then explain to me why there are a bunch of laptops/pc being announce that will ship with kaby lake a few weeks from now... Stop making pathetic excuses for Tim Cook and his destruction of Apple...
Jesus Christ. Read the ****ing thread. The only Kaby Lake CPUs shipping are low powered 15w or less.
Seriously, RTFT (the last T is for thread...). KL CPU's powerful enough for MBP's are not available. Or do you you want a MBP with a netbook-class CPU, just for the sake of it being Kaby Lake?