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A Skylake processor...? Seriously Apple?

I could understand an iMac with skylake. But MacBooks? Give me a break Apple, you really should use the newer Kaby Lake processors that offer some real power efficiency advantages...unless you want to be out of date literally on the first day.
Kaby Lake was announced a few months ago. It has been said many times that there are no chips ready for MacBook Pros until Q1 2017. Please do research before posting.
You look pretty silly right now

hint: as has been said at least 50 times in this very thread and every other thread on the subject, there is no Kaby Lake suitable for MBP until next year

hint2: on the page before this one someone noting that Razer just released a high end gaming laptop with Skylake, only the 2nd machine to have this chip

It's probably best not to talk about thing you don't understand publicly
Thank you.
 
You look pretty silly right now

hint: as has been said at least 50 times in this very thread and every other thread on the subject, there is no Kaby Lake suitable for MBP until next year

hint2: on the page before this one someone noting that Razer just released a high end gaming laptop with Skylake, only the 2nd machine to have this chip

It's probably best not to talk about thing you don't understand publicly

The fact that it was only in one system before makes me wonder if there were manufacturing issues or something else going on. Yes, the spec sheet said that processor has been available for months, but we do not know about the supply or manufacturing. People just need to cool down, geez. I have never seen this much nonsense about stupid processor generations. Who the hell cares if it is Skylake or not? I am still getting video editing done on my 2010 Mac Pro and 2013 rMBP.

I would rather have a better performance Skylake (or earlier) than the newest generation. Just chill people.

People here sound like zombies. Except instead of saying Brains, they say Kaby Lake!
 
The fact that it was only in one system before makes me wonder if there were manufacturing issues or something else going on. Yes, the spec sheet said that processor has been available for months, but we do not know about the supply or manufacturing. People just need to cool down, geez. I have never seen this much nonsense about stupid processor generations. Who the hell cares if it is Skylake or not? I am still getting video editing done on my 2010 Mac Pro and 2013 rMBP.

I would rather have a better performance Skylake (or earlier) than the newest generation. Just chill people.

Right. It was released in June 2016 and it's only in ~2 machines because one of them is an Intel design and the other, Razer, live or die on being on the cutting edge. I don't think it can be made any clearer to people in this thread. Yes, low end Kaby Lake is around but the high end mobile Skylake is only just available. In terms of release cycles it's fine to work with pre-production silicon for doing your design but any manufacturer worth their salt is going to do burn-in tests with actual, released hardware. Kudos to Razer for pushing something out so quickly though, I bet that machine is a beast and the external GPU enclosure is something I'd be interested in for home use.

I wonder how many other posters are going to storm into this thread shouting, "SKYLAKE!!!? But it's so old!" before it leaves page 1 of the News forum :rolleyes:
 
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Lost all faith in Apple over the last 2 years.

This isn't a religion it's a business which develops and sells operating systems and devices that run it. The magic is in the apps and programs which are on those devices.

I guess I don't get what all you apostates are having trouble with.

It's a very productive family of personal computers and digital devices.

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AR is a well defined term and the app I had on an iPhone 3g meets any reasonable definition. It was a 3d model projected in real space.
Yeah, but it doesn't consider things like tables and etc. to project the 3D model on it with proper scales right?
 
I'll cut to the chase and suggest that no rumor of an impending new Mac Pro is bad news. For Apple, and all its customers.

Mac Pro is manufactured stateside, so you won't get any MP rumors out of China.
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They are rumored to roll out in January 2017. So we waited all year to get end of life CPU and a magical LED strip. Apple has really screwed over mac users.

It's staggering how many people can't be bothered with facts.
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That is a BS excuse laid upon Intel. I am an engineer and HW dev does not work the way you claim. The systems are being worked in parallel with Intel so when the final CPU hits volume production so does the computer. This is 100% Apple's fault for shipping MacBook Pros 6 months late.

Now you are just embarrassing yourself.
 
Yeah, but it doesn't consider things like tables and etc. to project the 3D model on it with proper scales right?

It required a card to be laid on a surface of a known size and pattern. But

a) It was an iPhone 3G
b) That really has very little to do with the power of the GPU, which is what started this conversation
 
Trolling - why - it wouldn't be in his interest to do so. He's giving us the information is has.


We'll find out Thursday.

Can't help but think having everyone up in arm s (see what I did there?) about the iMac, the next Apple display, etc. would be immensely entertaining for malicious individuals. Still, he hasn't always been right, so let's hope his source is wrong on this.
 
It's a gaming laptop so has to be more powerful than anything than goes into Macbook... So not the kaby lake CPUs shipping today.


It's not shipping yet.

They can call it whatever they want, but I wouldn't be gaming on it without the external GPU. It has the i7-7500U CPU, with HD Graphics 620. That's a 15W part, regardless of whether it's shipping. Their high end gaming PC still uses "old" parts like Apple.
 
They can call it whatever they want, but I wouldn't be gaming on it without the external GPU. It has the i7-7500U CPU, with HD Graphics 620. That's a 15W part, regardless of whether it's shipping. Their high end gaming PC still uses "old" parts like Apple.

Lmao it is 15w, isn't it. It doesn't even use "old" but fast parts, just new but slow Kaby for label shoppers :confused:

The skylake Razer does look pretty great though. Seems like the MBP will be joining it in the league of the fastest mobile processors in a few days.
 
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Lmao it is 15w, isn't it. It doesn't even use "old" but fast parts, just new but slow Kaby for label shoppers :confused:

To be fair, it looks like a nice machine.. never used one though. If someone is due for an upgrade and a new-gen machine hits the shelves and ticks off all the proper boxes, then it seems like a great idea to go new. That was true for me until I pre-ordered a Surface Pro 4 with then brand-new Skylake. I struggled to be productive at work for a month before giving up and sending it back. I dropped back to a Broadwell Macbook and all was well. Sometimes tried and true is best.
 
To be fair, it looks like a nice machine.. never used one though. If someone is due for an upgrade and a new-gen machine hits the shelves and ticks off all the proper boxes, then it seems like a great idea to go new. That was true for me until I pre-ordered a Surface Pro 4 with then brand-new Skylake. I struggled to be productive at work for a month before giving up and sending it back. I dropped back to a Broadwell Macbook and all was well. Sometimes tried and true is best.

Yes I mentioned it earlier in the thread but I almost feel sorry for Microsoft for the issues they had with skylake. Only almost though, it's a gamble to push out a machine with a brand new cpu and not enough testing just to say you have the latest first.
 
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I disagree. It's think it'll happen and sooner than later.
Maybe, but not for a while. If they do, they will start with the MacBook. That could do fine with an ARM CPU. But the iMac, MBP and Mac Pro will stick with Intel for the foreseeable future because people who use them use the kind of apps that developers won't bother porting them to a new architecture.
 
You wonder sometimes what Apple focusses on...When it comes to Macs you can guarantee, "things are never ready yet"
Even though their refresh cycle is becoming longer.

Exception to the rule is watch straps..Apple loves a good strap. Jobs believed in concentrating developing a few products that were insanely great...For me Apple needs to get back to basics.
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Maybe, but not for a while. If they do, they will start with the MacBook. That could do fine with an ARM CPU. But the iMac, MBP and Mac Pro will stick with Intel for the foreseeable future because people who use them use the kind of apps that developers won't bother porting them to a new architecture.
Yep Intel not going anywhere. They are the industry defacto in consumer based computers. ARM for me will be used to compliment and used differently within the same computer. Bit like a hybrid system.
 
Maybe, but not for a while. If they do, they will start with the MacBook. That could do fine with an ARM CPU. But the iMac, MBP and Mac Pro will stick with Intel for the foreseeable future because people who use them use the kind of apps that developers won't bother porting them to a new architecture.

When Apple began their transition from PPC to Intel processors, they completed the transition in about a year, year and half max. If they do shift Macs to their own custom ARM processors, I expect the transition time to be about the same.
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You wonder sometimes what Apple focusses on...When it comes to Macs you can guarantee, "things are never ready yet"
Even though their refresh cycle is becoming longer.

Exception to the rule is watch straps..Apple loves a good strap. Jobs believed in concentrating developing a few products that were insanely great...For me Apple needs to get back to basics.
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Yep Intel not going anywhere. They are the industry defacto in consumer based computers. ARM for me will be used to compliment and used differently within the same computer. Bit like a hybrid system.

smartphones and tablets are what constitute consumer based computers now. Traditional PCs ( Windows / Macs) are moving into the realm of specialized / power user / enterprise use cases, or as SJ stated a few years ago "trucks"
 
You wonder sometimes what Apple focusses on...When it comes to Macs you can guarantee, "things are never ready yet"
Even though their refresh cycle is becoming longer.

5 of your last 20 posts are of the tired "watch straps lol" variety and in a thread where the Intel delays have been shown again and again you still seem to have missed it. :rolleyes:
 
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This is gonna be the longest 3 days ahead. I am surprised there is not even a leak of a fully assembled MBP coming out of China yet. Apple must have guards on watch 24-7 to ensure it doesn't happen. I personally am happy not to get this new Rev A. model, the changes are just too dramatic for me to embrace. Still need my USB A, HDMI and SD card reader. Also, I don't like the butterfly keyboard, just too shallow. Makes you even wonder what the audio is gonna be like. Certainly, improvements like DDR4 RAM, larger SSD storage options and improved performance/input method will make it enticing. The reality is, I am getting along without it now. Sure, Apple is gonna add Touch ID and Hey, Siri, but we all know that's not a game changer, its just expected.
 
I just need a new Mac Pro, and I'm fine with a refreshed trash can. I haven't put any time into researching the possible parts situation, but when it happens I'll likely buy. I'll retire my 2010 to the storage room, which will bump an old Windows server.

I also need a new Mini since my moms got hit by a power surge recently. So basically I'm betting on the underdogs.
 
So this will be a 'Pro' laptop that doesn't offer a 4K screen, will probably be the only one then. Can't have it all I guess. As for the iMacs not being ready.... Wtf?? Seriously? They have spent so much time on watchbands and pointless cars they don't have anytime for there computers.

It's always good news and bad news with Apple these days.
 
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