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Someone please tell me why Apple going with Skylake is better than jumping directly to Kaby Lake. I assume they will use a more powerful version than what's out for the Kaby Lake CPUs at the moment.

Kaby Lake has much better native 4K support (including HDCP 2.2).
 
Razer has released a gaming laptop that contains Kabylake CPU good enough for the 13" Macbook pro - or better.

http://www.razerzone.com/ca-en/gaming-systems/razer-blade-stealth

Glad someone mentioned Razer. Yes, they put out the Razer Blade Stealth, which is their Kaby ultrabook, but they also just released this month their 14" Razer Blade which is essentially a MBP clone for gamers, and it's got a Skylake i7-6700HQ chip and an Nvidia GTX 1060. The 17" Razer Blade Pro they're shipping next month will also sport a Skylake i7-6700HQ and an Nvidia GTX 1080. If Skylake is the newest top of the line for Razer, who definitely serves the spec-hungry PC gamer crowd, I wouldn't expect Apple to beat that in the MBP. Possible we see an MacBook or MacBook Air with Kabylake though.
 
i don't get this whole USB C thing they're pushing on macs yet not on iOS devices. No one has devices that natively use these ports so what good are 4 of them? and taking away the SD card slot is a damn shame for us photographers

I don't get quite a few things about the Apple lines these days. What is the difference between the Air and Pro iPad lines? Why have the Macbook and the Macbook Air? What wired headphones will work across the board with the Macs having USB type C (and a headphone jack?) and the iDevices having Lightning and no headphone jack?
 
Glad someone mentioned Razer. Yes, they put out the Razer Blade Stealth, which is their Kaby ultrabook, but they also just released this month their 14" Razer Blade which is essentially a MBP clone for gamers, and it's got a Skylake i7-6700HQ chip and an Nvidia GTX 1060. The 17" Razer Blade Pro they're shipping next month will also sport a Skylake i7-6700HQ and an Nvidia GTX 1080. If Skylake is the newest top of the line for Razer, who definitely serves the spec-hungry PC gamer crowd, I wouldn't expect Apple to beat that in the MBP. Possible we see an MacBook or MacBook Air with Kabylake though.

Finally somebody else gets it.
 
What is the difference between the Air and Pro iPad
Speed, pencil support, screen quality and features and the smart connector

Why have the Macbook and the Macbook Air?
The Air has a chip one up from Macbook and is at a lower price point. It remains to be seen if it will survive this cycle.

What wired headphones will work across the board with the Macs having USB type C (and a headphone jack?)

If the headphone jack remains, all existing 3.5mm headphones. If it doesn't I'm guessing there will be a lightning to USB C adapter and/or 3.5mm to USB C adapter (actually there might be both of these anyway)
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Glad someone mentioned Razer. Yes, they put out the Razer Blade Stealth, which is their Kaby ultrabook, but they also just released this month their 14" Razer Blade which is essentially a MBP clone for gamers, and it's got a Skylake i7-6700HQ chip and an Nvidia GTX 1060. The 17" Razer Blade Pro they're shipping next month will also sport a Skylake i7-6700HQ and an Nvidia GTX 1080. If Skylake is the newest top of the line for Razer, who definitely serves the spec-hungry PC gamer crowd, I wouldn't expect Apple to beat that in the MBP. Possible we see an MacBook or MacBook Air with Kabylake though.

Skylake? But that's 2015's tech!! :eek: Crapple must have taken time out from industrial sabotage of the Note 7 to steal all the Kaby Lakes!!

Seriously though, thank you for digging that up.
 
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I don't get quite a few things about the Apple lines these days. What is the difference between the Air and Pro iPad lines? Why have the Macbook and the Macbook Air? What wired headphones will work across the board with the Macs having USB type C (and a headphone jack?) and the iDevices having Lightning and no headphone jack?

All wired headphones will work with all devices, just as they do now. You'll just have to use an adapter or swap a cable, just like a lot of us have been doing since way before the iphone 7 did away with the 1/8th inch jack. The only exception being that you won't be able to use the crappy iphone lightning buds that came with your iphone with your Mac, but then why would you want to?
 
As others have mentioned, there's still a major plot hole here around the release date. If these chips were released in June, even if they weren't available in volume right away, why not announce them the last week of July and start shipping them the first week of August? Even if they took six weeks to ship them all, that would have been way less bad than Apple missing back-to-school season.

Unless Skylake just because available in volume, it's hard to believe that there wasn't some other component they were waiting for.
 
Haven't read all the posts so don't know if this has been speculated but it wouldn't surprise me if Apple announces a shift to their in-house chips for all their product lines. I know there are a (many!) number of issues for the Mac and macOS, but I think the move will happen eventually, maybe now?
 
Did you forget when Tim Cook asked, "Why would you want a PC anymore?"

After all, Tim Cook thinks you just need an iPad.

Did you also forget that Apple released a commercial saying that the iPad "Pro" is a PC?

I hope you don't think he really meant what he said about that IPad. That's marketing speak, IPad sales were flat, they needed to say something to convince people to try it this new one, and they even called it a "Pro" to help pitch it. There is no way the IPad replaces a Macbook, anyone with even half a brain knows that.
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Haven't read all the posts so don't know if this has been speculated but it wouldn't surprise me if Apple announces a shift to their in-house chips for all their product lines. I know there are a (many!) number of issues for the Mac and macOS, but I think the move will happen eventually, maybe now?

No, there is no way that is happening now, or anytime in the foreseeable future.
 
As others have mentioned, there's still a major plot hole here around the release date. If these chips were released in June, even if they weren't available in volume right away, why not announce them the last week of July and start shipping them the first week of August? Even if they took six weeks to ship them all, that would have been way less bad than Apple missing back-to-school season.

Unless Skylake just because available in volume, it's hard to believe that there wasn't some other component they were waiting for.

How about the Skylake i7 6770/6870/6970-HQ with Iris Pro 580 which were "launched" in January but we've only seen the 6770 in anything shipping at all, and that's Intel's Skull Canyon NUC which started shipping early Summer I believe. None of those are shipping any laptop on the market, and we haven't seen the 68/6970s in anything at all yet.

Those whining for Kaby Lake really don't understand how these releases actually unfold in real life. All we have for KL yet are the super low power chips that would never be seen in a MBP. Who knows when those will actually ship.
 
Where the hell is the Mac Pro?

I'm glad they're releasing yet another Macbook/Macbook Pro and another iMac but these have been getting relatively steady updates through the years. I'm genuinely getting concerned that the Mac Pro is a dead product now.

****.

I'm getting a sick feeling about the Mac Pro. It was long overdue for an update when the 'trash can' model came out in 2013. When I saw what was going on I went and got a refurb Mid 2012 Mac Pro (3.2 QuadCore Xeon, later brought up to 16GB and 2 TB HDD, later ATI Radeon 5770 to replace fried card, FWIW), and since then we see minimal updates to the trash can model, (https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//#Mac), 1040 days since release, reports of docs, etc., removed from Apple Support, discontinuing displays, etc., focus of ridiculously massive resources is overweighted on phones, pads, and watches, and seems to point to the non-iMac desktop falling off the product line, abandoned.

They want to 'lead', ok, but don't be so far ahead that people can't follow you. You can't be a leader without followers.
 
Well lets see how the specs will be, with Apple insistence in not putting proper GPUs in their products, they can say goodbye to any AR or VR development on the OSX by 3rd party vendors.
 
Well lets see how the specs will be, with Apple insistence in not putting proper GPUs in their products, they can say goodbye to any AR or VR development on the OSX by 3rd party vendors.

I had an AR app on my iPhone 3G. It isn't inherently graphically intensive, it depends entirely on what you choose to augment the view with.
 
Google is your friend!

Sorry but I checked Intel's actual sight and specs comparisons between the old and new CPUs and your link confirms what I wrote. Additionally another poster added to my quote the info on the faster video, as your link also says.

In a nut shell Kaby is not a significant tick in the Intel clock.

Basically you just want to complain and as others are also posting Kaby is just not timely for good engineering in such a short time frame.

Give it up Stella, it's not just a gaming machine.

BTW Stella did you check the date on your link? Aug 2016, just like Intel said, the official release date for Kaby and board developers only got the CPUs as early as April or May 2016. Not enough time for full scale development and release of quality products to the general public.

Now if you want a MB with Kaby it looks like early 2017 from MSI or ASUS is as early as you will get one.
 
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