New MacBook Pro and 13-Inch 'MacBook' Coming Next Week, iMac and Display Not Ready Yet

[Codeseven]

In the trash can.

Wait, sorry, that was just the Mac Pro.

Your probably not that far off.

That was a really cool looking, powerful device when it first came out but all I've ever heard is negative stuff about it.

 

[citysnaps]

Apple will have a dozen or so for launch and then they will be backordered for months. Which lately has been the case for apple

A dozen or so for launch? You mean like the iPhone 7, where, you know, Apple inentinally holds back supply to stimulate demand, even though they're manufacturing 800K+ units every day?

Yeah, that makes sense, too.

 

[Appleaker]

Tim Cook happened: that's what.

Yeah he may say he loves the Mac, and he probably does, but he focuses on figures. And iOS devices sell more, so he wants the focus to be on them.

 

[Hanzu Lao]

iMac update is not ready because components for it are not ready.

- Intel Kaby Lake suitable for high-end desktops has not been released.... and the expected release date is 2017.
- Even mobile versions of AMD polaris GPUs which were supposed to be on time have not been released yet. The whole mobile 4xx line is a rebrand of already existing 3xx cards. The new mobile cards are slanted for release in early 2017 as well.

So Apple really isn't to blame here when the suitable CPU/GPU components for its devices have not been released yet for its partners. There is no point in a release without an update to the two most important components of the device.

Apple had plenty of occasions to bump the specs then. Adding SSD as standard would have been enough for me. Among other things of course.

 

[Savor]

iMac needs a new body! 10 years is a way too long (I'm including the bezel body), what happened to futuristic products?

Apple has been too busy making iPhones with incremental design changes every two years (now three years) .

If you ever seen Zootopia, Disney could have easily made the DMV into Apple. Sloths totally run the place including the design team led by bald guy who loves saying aluminum the wrong way. Hehe.. I still like Jony though.

Butterfly keyboard? No thanks. Actually my MBA is getting notified with the Sierra update and I refuse to update after hearing reports on worse battery life. Happy with El Capitan. And 128gb doesn't bother me when I have an SD slot to boot to easily add another 128gb. Sometimes newer isn't always better for me.

 

[danielwsmithee]

If this true that the iMac is not being updated, it sound like Apple is waiting on the KabyLake/Vega to update the iMac next year? Or could it mean that Apple want to go straight to an integrated AMD HSA solution with Zen & Vega?

Apple really needs to get their computer business back on track. Updating 2 products per year is not sufficient, 2015 (MacBook & iMac), 2016 (MacBook Air & MacBook Pro), 2017 (iMac and ???)... sounds more and more like the Mac Prop and Mac Mini are dead...

 

[AZREOSpecialist]

Looks like Mac Pro is dead. Macbook Pro and iMac get updated every 2 years now?

Tim Cook, are you awake?

 

[MH01]

Pathetic? Really... What would you rather have Apple announce since KL CPUs will not be available until next year? No doubt you'd still whine if Apple simply announced new KL MacBooks for delivery next year.

Are not KL equipped laptops due in Q1 2017? Given its going to be November 2016, we are getting old tech, which probably will not get refreshed for 12 months. So that means KL MacBooks end of 2017...

I'd prefer apple jsut delay the launch to Q1 and give us KL. heck we waited this long, what a few more months.

Apple could delay, but the holiday season is coming up, more sales if they launch now.

 

[Bryan Bowler]

iMac not ready? What the hell is going on in there?

C'mon man, give em' a break. They've been working hard on new emojis and watch bands.

 

[Sandybox]

The 1.5" bezels and 3.5" chin on the front was great in 2009 when it debuted. Fine in 2012 when the front face remained the same despite a thinning of the rear case. But now, people want minimalism in the form of the least amount of material around the display itself as possible. That means - thin bezels and a reduced or nearly eliminated chin.

You may or may not be right as to what "people" want but if you do have a screen and nothing else there is no scope for design statements. What you have is something that looks like every other tv out there. Short of making an imac as thin as the iPhoto there is little left to be done in design terms?

 

[MH01]

I don't know why people want kaby lake, it has disappointing reviews.

People just want the latest.

I'll be happy with intel and 4 cores...

 

[MacRazySwe]

Kuo says Apple will also be introducing a "13-inch MacBook," [...] rather than being a slightly larger version of the current 12-inch MacBook, however, this is likely to be a MacBook Air.

This sounds confusing. 9to5mac reports it referring to a 13" MacBook and nothing else.

I can't see Apple redesigning the chassis of the MacBook Air to accommodate the USB-C ports, then leaving the rest exactly as it has been for the last 6 years. It would not make sense to push the MacBook Air as the future of laptops with new I/O and still keeping a non-retina display. Especially not when everything in the OS is optimized for retina.

I see two options.

1. If it has a USB-C port, it will be a brand new 13" MacBook with Retina Display. 11" Air gone, 13" Air kept as the budget option.

2. If not, it will be a spec update for the good old MacBook Air. Skylake/Kaby Lake. No new ports, no new design, just internal updates. No USB-C.

What do you guys think? Good thing is we'll probably find out thursday!

 

[MacsRgr8]

On the desktop side, rumors have indicated that Apple is working on updated iMac models with discrete AMD graphics options, as well as a new standalone external 5K display, but Kuo says those products will not be ready until the first half of next year....

 

[miknos]

Whats the point of a macbook air if the macbook (12 inch) is already the thinnest? macbook and mbp is enough.

 

[Feenician]

I don't know why people want kaby lake, it has disappointing reviews.

Even Skylake barely moves the needle over Haswell and that's before they had to cripple it with microcode updates to nullify it's many, many errata. Intel are barely nudging 5-10% speed improvement generation over generation.

 

[Mr. Dee]

Walt Mossberg says he uses his iPads for all his work, Tim Cook says the same. Weirdos. Normal people do all their work on iMessage so I don't know what the fuss is about.
You can send a resume with full screen balloons falling down or lasers! How cool is that? Who needs those old fashioned keyboard things!
Heck the iPad Pro can edit two streams of 4K video.
/s
well kinda s/

Actually, Walt does his work on a 13 inch MacBook Air.

 

[TrueBlou]

No Steve Jobs to keep the ship straight and narrow. No product was forgotten about and I miss the "one last thing" moment. There's no surprises anymore. And Apple under Tim Cook seems to be streamlining anything iOS. He needs to be replaced if we don't get a spectacular set of replacements for the current Mac line-up.

Man that's something I really miss from the Jobs days too. I used to love the "one more thing" bits at the end of the event. It was always something to look forward to and be excited about.

 

[Roxy Balboa]

Yeah, although the iMac probably won't be announced since it would result in lost sales, they have no reason not to announce the display, otherwise they would me missing out on a lot of customers.

Total BS

 

[RamGuy]

I feel sad reading these comments... Some people keeps going on and on about Skylake vs Kaby Lake in the MacBook Pro. Do you guys even know what SKU's are? Intel's CPU line-up exists of several tiers and SKU's. Just because Intel has deliver a few Kaby Lake CPU's on the market is not the same thing as Kaby Lake being available in all tiers and SKU's.

The SKU's that Apple uses, especially in their MacBook Pro 15-inch models does not exists in Kaby Lake form as of today. They won't be available until Q1 2017. How do you expect Apple to ship the new MacBook Pro with CPU's that does not exist? Would you rather prefer that Apple goes one step down on their SKU tier and provide lower core-count, lower IPC and and clock rates with inferior integrated graphic chips just so they can ship them with Kaby Lake instead of Skylake?


As of today, the only Kaby Lake SKU's being widely available are the Intel Core M aka "ULV" equivalent CPU's suited for the fan-less MacBook 12-inch and the low performing LV models like i3-7100U, i5-7200U and i7-7500U. None of these are SKU's on the level that Apple normally uses in their MacBook Pro 15-inch models.


Apple is awaiting the Intel i7-7770HQ, but it's not available until Q1 2017 at the earliest. How can you be so stupid that you expect Apple to deliver CPU's that does not even exist as of this date?

 

[blackberrycubed]

watch people (get screwed) buy MacBook pros with skylake over the next few weeks to only be silently refreshed with Kaby Lake in 2-3 months with 3 to 5 hours of more battery life...... smh

 

[dannys1]

And it speaks well of the superior, timeless design as to have lasted this long. There's STILL nothing wrong with it!

I pretty much expected this. You can't make the MBP much thinner without adopting that keyboard. Oh well.

I don't think it will either - they're wrong - it'll have the butterfly keyboard of the Magic Keyboard 2 I'd suggest - and that to be honest is better than both the MacBook keyboard and the current MacBook Pro keyboard (I type on all three regularly and the Magic Keyboard 2 is easily the best of both worlds)

 

[BreadofWonder]

Someone please tell me why Apple going with Skylake is better than jumping directly to Kaby Lake. I assume they will use a more powerful version than what's out for the Kaby Lake CPUs at the moment.

I don't think Kaby Lake has anything available in the mobile performance category the MacBook Pros are in yet (though it's been a while since I looked into it, so that may have changed). That is, there is no mobile i7 or high performance i5 Kaby Lake. That being said, I totally expect a quiet update to the new pros in spring or summer when they become available.

 

[Bryan Bowler]

Where the hell is the Mac Pro?

I'm glad they're releasing yet another Macbook/Macbook Pro and another iMac but these have been getting relatively steady updates through the years. I'm genuinely getting concerned that the Mac Pro is a dead product now.

Sh*t.

Wouldn't surprise me with the decisions Apple has been making the last few years. Remember how Apple used to support the creative community, especially pros? Not any more. Out of nowhere, Apple abandoned Aperture and left its creative community high and dry.

Apple's priorities as a company has definitely changed in the last few years and they are different now.

 

[iDemiurge]

They'll bring back the old Mac Pro tower with updated internals. They'll call it the Mac Pro Pro and it will start at 20 grand.

 

[dannys1]

watch people (get screwed) buy MacBook pros with skylake over the next few weeks to only be silently refreshed with Kaby Lake in 2-3 months with 3 to 5 hours of more battery life...... smh

Funny because most people on here think the MacBook Pros SHOULD be refreshed very 2-3 months so that you always get the latest technology when you buy them, and yet you see it as being "screwed" because it's "outdated" in 4 months. I believe Apple have taken your stance to go for 15 months between updates to make it both substantial and so people stopped complaining that Apple update everything every few months (which they never did anyway but) and now you have people moaning they don't update enough, whatever they do, people will complain so.