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They spend more on R&D per product than any company out there. Surely they can come up with it, but surely it's not ready for the market. We'll just have to make do with the fastest and most efficient laptops, so sad.
You're probably right maybe they already have the technology. A Notchless Macbook Pro will be next year's upgrade.
 
The notch makes me so mad. There's clearly enough room to not have that impinge on the screen, just use a little bigger top margin. No one cares the margin size, except people in apple obsessed with "edge to edge everything"
If Dell can pull it off, so can Apple. Their XPS has tiny bezel and w camera on top. This is a design choice to differ themselves from the competition. It is straight up ugly but oh well.
 
so I guess your not supposed to watch anything fullscreen. damn that was a bad design choice for a laptop. on a phone due to bezel restrictions I can understand... but a notch on a laptop? come on, you are better than this apple
I don’t get this comment. Watching a movie in full screen blacks area encompassing the notch and the full screen movie plays under that. Considering the area where this menu currently resides happens to be bezel, this implementation still means more viewing real estate even If you’re blacking some of it out.
 
so I guess your not supposed to watch anything fullscreen. damn that was a bad design choice for a laptop. on a phone due to bezel restrictions I can understand... but a notch on a laptop? come on, you are better than this apple

Lazy and uninspired. Truly awful design - people should not reward this. But they will. They will sell millions. And that’s why they no longer care about a good user experience or decent design, people buy it anyway.
 
If Dell can pull it off, so can Apple. Their XPS has tiny bezel and w camera on top. This is a design choice to differ themselves from the competition. It is straight up ugly but oh well.
15" XPS has a 720p camera, and a really piss poor one at that.
 
Apple 2022 releases standalone notch! Notchify any screen in your life! iNotch Max for your home and car windows. iNotch mini for your glasses and AW. Instantly be recognised as an iconic Apple user! Brand recognition for all.
 
Take your MBP screen, look at it. They added space left and right of the camera, for the menu bar. They found additional space for your menu bar, so when you fullscreen apps, you still have it. Otherwise it’s the same screen you had. They added space, they didn’t take away anything.

But this is too hard for the Internet to comprehend, it seems. Every comment on every MBP news today is “but the notch”.

Personally, I really like the choice they made here.
The internet seems to understand just fine, there is a difference between bezels and notches. Feel free to ask an old wise friend of mine, the dictionary.

I know that gaming, old tv shows and a cramped menu bar found often on those aliens called „Pros“ are forbidden speech on Apple forums but please try to revive those synapses. A notch on a laptop is a stupid idea only a Touch Bar inventor gets away with.
 
This is a Pro machine with amazing performance. Try to find a thinner and better looking machine with that kind of power.

They finally made a non-compromise Pro machine deserving of the name.

Consumers will likely be happier with the next Air.

Yes it's a pro machine and as such I don't care if it's thinner or better looking than someone else's machine, I want every inch to be maxed out on it and an uninterrupted view across the top.
Huge bezels, lame keyboard...the list goes on and on.
Like I said "dang that is ugly". Not just speaking of the notch.
 
Take your MBP screen, look at it. They added space left and right of the camera, for the menu bar. They found additional space for your menu bar, so when you fullscreen apps, you still have it. Otherwise it’s the same screen you had. They added space, they didn’t take away anything.

But this is too hard for the Internet to comprehend, it seems. Every comment on every MBP news today is “but the notch”.

Personally, I really like the choice they made here.
And what happens when you use a different resolution for your screen and the physical notch no longer stays inside the menubar vertically but then protrudes into your content or workspace? Or is Apple going to make the menubar a fixed height no matter what resolution you use? Because that would really defeat the purpose of adding more screen real estate.
 
And what happens when you use a different resolution for your screen and the physical notch no longer stays inside the menubar vertically but then protrudes into your content or workspace? Or is Apple going to make the menubar a fixed height no matter what resolution you use? Because that would really defeat the purpose of adding more screen real estate.

Exactly.

Everyone is talking about all the glorious extra real estate, but no one is mentioning how the new Menu Bar is like almost larger than 2 times what is previously was!

Thin Bezel + Thin Menu Bar vs. No Bezel + Thick Menu Bar is basically the same thing. Except now you have the black eye of Sauron staring at your face every time you want to FaceTime grandma.
 
So I guess this is what happens when Jony Ive leaves Apple?

I wanted to give someone new a shot, but DAMN.

How is it that Dell ca do this?!

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I don’t get this comment. Watching a movie in full screen blacks area encompassing the notch and the full screen movie plays under that. Considering the area where this menu currently resides happens to be bezel, this implementation still means more viewing real estate even If you’re blacking some of it out.

The presentation was slightly confusing, and in all of their marketing material the wallpaper is displayed on the full 16:11 display. When you rewatch the part about the new mini-led display, you'll notice that the mini-led design seems to end at the menu bar.

I am almost surprised that Apple did not poke fun of their notch design and explicitly say, don't worry, the notch will not invade your usable working space.
 
Because that would really defeat the purpose of adding more screen real estate.
What? No it wouldn't. You just consider the part below the menu/notch as the parts you are rescaling.

Try running your MBP now with menu bar hidden and change your resolution. See the difference. Now imagine you also have menus and status icons available in the bezel above the screen.
 
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