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New MacBook Pro i5 Leaked

Eidorian said:
Hyperthreading alone is going to scale before you take Turbo Boost into account. I'm wary of even getting a Core 2 ULV or CULV when I can get Arrandale. Remember it's 2010.
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Yeah, but I've just bought the top of the range 15" and I can't fault its performance at all, so as far as I'm concerned, sitting around waiting for the next best thing is pointless because there's always something round the corner. Another thread like this'll be popping up in October!
 
atheistpally said:
ok i'm getting a little worried now..

i passed on buying a top of the line 17" last month because i learned that a refresh was coming soon. surely they wouldn't release anything that was less than or equal to current gpu performance, would they?? both integrated and discrete would have to be upgraded right? i mean if not, that just makes no sense to me.
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I got a 17" 12 days ago, and even though there is no restocking fee in the UK, I think I am going to keep it.

The current MBPs have no known issues, and with this new generation, don't be surprised if there are lots of issues with the Rev A machines.
 
applemax said:
Yeah, but I've just bought the top of the range 15" and I can't fault its performance at all, so as far as I'm concerned, sitting around waiting for the next best thing is pointless because there's always something round the corner. Another thread like this'll be popping up in October!
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Do tell what we can expect in October. This is an architecture and platform change not your everyday speed bump.

Clarksfield was known for months after Core 2 Quad and Arrandale was put into production over Auburndale. Old news is well old. Now it's just waiting for Apple to get with the program.
 
applemax said:
Read what he said. A normal web-browsing, document writing, iLife-ing user is not going to notice a difference.
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No he didn't. He said "in day-to-day use". My day-to-day use maxes out processors. We all know this isn't going to affect web browsing or iWeb.
 
ur so dramatic

JeromeOD said:
You're simply wrong. Many of us in the "creative" professions use huge amounts of processor power all the time. For myself, the change from C2D to core i5 will cross a crucial gap where it might be possible for me to run very large Pro Tools sessions natively in a laptop instead of buying another tower. Every time a proc speed bump happens, I can have more plugins & busses in my sessions. It makes a huge difference to me.
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First of all,
Of course Intel are going to deny it. but its sorta hard to mix up a promotion between a Hewlett Packard Envy laptop and a Apple MacBook Pro laptop.

Secondly, the MacBook Pro is well overdue for its new release and goes nicely with the January refresh.



Also, in regards to Core 2 Duo vs Intel i5.
In every day tasks you will see a difference, and if you are using it for what its intended to do, (ala professionals) you will see a noticeably big difference.
 
CoolHotCold said:
First of all,
Of course Intel are going to deny it. but its sorta hard to mix up a promotion between a Hewlett Packard Envy laptop and a Apple MacBook Pro laptop.

Secondly, the MacBook Pro is well overdue for its new release and goes nicely with the January refresh.



Also, in regards to Core 2 Duo vs Intel i5.
In every day tasks you will see a difference, and if you are using it for what its intended to do, (ala professionals) you will see a noticeably big difference.
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Maybe, but it doesn't warrant waiting months for it... :p
 
Eidorian said:
Do tell what we can expect in October. This is an architecture and platform change not your everyday speed bump.

Clarksfield was known for months after Core 2 Quad and Arrandale was put into production over Auburndale. Old news is well old. Now it's just waiting for Apple to get with the program.
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As far as I know, the only new features are going to be a different processor and a different graphics chip. Everything else is staying the same, right? No redesign, no Blu-ray, etc...
 
(DUPLICATE) intel retracts/corrects: NOT core-i5 macbook pro, but HP Envy

(apologies, I was beaten/too slow... - can't seem to delete the posting?)

Spanish site faq-mac.com reports that intel has officially corrected the previously reported promotion announcement (blaming communication problems of their marketing):

Their Retail Edge Program is to carry HP Envy laptops, not MacBook Pros.


MacRumors said:


Spanish site faq-mac.com reports [Google translation] that chipmaker Intel has sent an e-mail to members of its Intel Retail Edge program touting a chance for participants to win one of two MacBook Pro notebooks based on Intel's new Core i5 processors during the month of January. Apple's MacBook Pro line currently utilizes Intel Core 2 Duo processors.
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applemax said:
Intel just released a statement about this. They've confirmed it was a communications mistake and that the email should have referred to an HP i5 laptop, not an Apple one.
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I dunno, they were pretty specific. They didn't just say that it was an Apple laptop or a Mac laptop or even a MacBook. They said MacBook Pro. I don't see why marketing would have made such a specific leap if that wasn't what it was.

Even if it WAS a slip up, I suspect that it was because there is a new MBP coming with those chips and thus the confusion arose.

I think this is Intel trying to cover thier mistake.
 
wirelessmacuser said:
Sony plays it close to the vest, I have a stand alone Blu-ray player myself and it's great.

But overall the sales are sagging and I would be shocked to see Apple buy into this fading technology.
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"fading"? No, not yet. In the US at least, Blu-ray had a bigger % rise than downloads did last year. DVD is tanking, not Blu-ray.
 
And two weeks ago they were still the fastest mobile processors one could buy... well, that's technology for ya
 
Rogzilla said:
I dunno, they were pretty specific. They didn't just say that it was an Apple laptop or a Mac laptop or even a MacBook. They said MacBook Pro. I don't see why marketing would have made such a specific leap if that wasn't what it was.

Even if it WAS a slip up, I suspect that it was because there is a new MBP coming with those chips and thus the confusion arose.

I think this is Intel trying to cover thier mistake.
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*Ding ding Ding* we have a winner!

Of course Intel are going to backpedal on this one. They probably did mix something up, like the promotion/competition was going to end after Apple made their announcement about new MBP's and thats probably where the issues arose.

I don't doubt Intel (being the biggest 3rd party contributor to the Macbook/imac/Mac Mini/Mac Pro/ Macbook Pro have Apples roadmap for the next few years (after all they are going to be producing the "brain" and in this case the chipset probably too) which everything else plugs into. So a tight partnership is needed.

Anywho, everyone knew it was comming, Intel just jumped the gate a little early. I know of no other company who would backpedal just like what intels doing right now.
Thunder stolen under Apples feet.
 
CoolHotCold said:
If they use intel's Chips then they definitely have to use Intel's HD graphics.
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No. Not true.

Apple can use discrete graphics from anyone. They don't have to use the Intel GPU that is in the CPU package.

Arrandale does not have a Northbridge - where integrated graphics usually sit.

The current 9400m systems are three chip systems: CPU+9400mNorthbridge+Southbridge two chip systems: CPU + (9400m+north and southbridge). An Arrandale with discrete graphics is also a three chip system: CPU+GPU+Southbridge.
 
AidenShaw said:
No. Not true.

Apple can use discrete graphics from anyone. They don't have to use the Intel GPU that is in the CPU package.

Arrandale does not have a Northbridge - where integrated graphics usually sit.

The current 9400m systems are three chip systems: CPU+9400mNorthbridge+Southbridge. An Arrandale with discrete graphics is also a three chip system: CPU+GPU+Southbridge.
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The current system is CPU + MCP79A (Northbridge/southbridge/IGP). That is a two chip system.

For Arrandale it's the processor package (CPU/IGP/PCIe/Memory Controller) + PCH and then a discrete solution that will connect over the PCIe 2.0 x16 lanes. Two chips with the IGP or three for discrete solutions.
 
Eidorian said:
The current system is CPU + MCP79A (Northbridge/southbridge/IGP). That is a two chip system.

For Arrandale it's the processor package (CPU/IGP/PCIe/Memory Controller) + PCH and then a discrete solution that will connect over the PCIe 2.0 x16 lanes. Two chips with the IGP or three for discrete solutions.
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Thats right. While it is possible for Apple to ask Intel to remove the Intel HD graphics from the chip, its more hassle then its worth.

Especially as the GPU die also contains the memory controller, its just easier to let it go and offer a discrete graphics as a option.
 
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