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New MacBook Pro Models Coming at WWDC, Suggests Leaker

umbilical said:
Good, ok so why they can't charge a freaking decent price if we choose more on ram right away. $1400 or even $800 or so is ridiculous.
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Because memory chips in the slim packages necessary to fit in the semiconductor package cost a lot of money!
 
Ion-X said:
You can buy from a retailer with a longer return window. Amazon is one option, although they are currently backordered on the MacBook Air.

I would use a burner device for a few days while you wait out the announcement.
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Not cool. You should never "purchase" something with the intent to use it and return it. This is a huge problem in retail and drives up the cost for everyone. Also, just not ethical.
 
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IllinoisCorn said:
"do I realize?"

No, I don't think I do.

I think if Apple puts a garbage camera in their high end work station machine, they will have a lot of explaining to do.

You might not think so, but that's how I feel about it.

I also wonder if people realize how absolutely condescending it is to say "you do realize..."
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I didn’t intend to offend rather be respectfully harsh. Your “they need to do it, no excuses” attitude without at least acknowledging the reasonable difficulty/plausibility is seemingly just as rude.

Additionally, in the realm of webcams, 720p isn’t “garbage.” Zoom, for example, deems FHD a premium feature and doesn’t even support UHD/4K.

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    • macOS version: 4.3.53325.0120 or later
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Lastly, referring to a MBP as a “work station” system is a stretch. “Prosumer” is more accurate. Apple’s only (current) workstation-class computer is the Mac Pro.

With that said, you’re allowed to demand/expect whatever you want from Apple, but others (such as myself) can equally post counterpoints.
 
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If they keep Touch ID it will be even better. I wouldn't mind the removal of the touch bar but Touch ID was super convenient.

Apple is about to burn a hole in my pocket
 
Mr. Dee said:
I would hold onto it until at lease Rev B or C since this is gonna have the blooming effect Mini-LED.
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If the MBP is coming out in two weeks, I’m betting money it won’t have mini-LED. Apple is having supply issues, for one, and a new pandemic wave has hit Taiwan
 
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Wasn't there a story a while back about a patent for achieving black aluminum? Seems like a cool thing to do for this big redesign coinciding with new colored entry level machines (iMac now, MacBook Air rumored).
 
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pdoherty said:
You’d think so but despite having TouchID-on-the-power-button available they didn’t use it on the iPad Pros, inexplicably.
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Because the iPad pros already have face ID.
The MacBook Air has touch ID without a Touch Bar, and the MacBook Pro already has touch ID. It’s not going anywhere, even if they get rid of the Touch Bar
 
poematik13 said:
If the new 16" model can match the performance of the 2019 16" (8-core, 5600m) with double the battery life and no Intel 65 degree idle, id be willing to put up with the workflow downsides and iOS-style limitations of big sur / ARM
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There aren't really any iOS style limitations present in M1 Macs. Rosetta 2 takes care of anything not natively written in ARM arch.

We're also expecting it to greatly exceed the current gen performance as well as the increased battery life and much cooler running temps.
 
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MacCheetah3 said:
I didn’t intend to offend rather be respectfully harsh. Your “they need to do it, no excuses” attitude without at least acknowledging the reasonable difficulty/plausibility is seemingly just as rude.

Additionally, in the realm of webcams, 720p isn’t “garbage.” Zoom, for example, deems FHD a premium feature and doesn’t even support UHD/4K.


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Group HD

Note: As our world comes together to slow the spread of COVID-19 and stays connected through Zoom globally, we are working to quickly scale our bandwidth during this unprecedented demand. For the t...
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Lastly, referring to a MBP as a “work station” system is a stretch. “Prosumer” is more accurate. Apple’s only (current) workstation-class computer is the Mac Pro.

With that said, you’re allowed to demand/expect whatever you want from Apple, but others (such as myself) can equally post counterpoints.
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Not really about "intending to offend."

More like "intended to insult."
 
Homme said:
but lately Apple has made WWDC to be software focused though

they have the rest of the year for other hardware announcements😊
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This is hardly a typical year. Apple is moving ALL of their computers to Apple Silicon very quickly. That is a lot of models to update and announce. WWDC is a good place to launch the new pro Macbooks as devs are a natural market for them. [edited for typo]
 
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Tagbert said:
This is hardly a typical year. Apple is moving ALL of their computers to Apple Silicon very quickly. That is a lot of models to update and announce. WWDC is a goof place to launch the new pro Macbooks as devs are a natural market for them.
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Indeed -- they seem to have really accelerated their introduction of new platforms. The period of a few years ago feels like drought compared to the rain of new devices and device updates over the last couple of years.
 
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poematik13 said:
yeah, but isnt there a translation layer that affects performance?
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You are probably thinking of Rosetta 2. What it does is translate the Intel-based code into AppleSilicon-based code when the app first runs. After that it is the translated code that runs. This is not an emulator. There is very little overhead beyond the initial translation time (seconds). For many apps, the Rosetta 2 translated app run faster on the M1 Mac than the original code ran on the equivalent Intel Mac. A large percentage of apps have already been recompiled to Apple Silicon and install as universal binaries. Very few apps are written directly targeting specific chip architectures these days. Porting to Apple Silicon is mainly recompiling, retuning, and testing. The MS Office suite has been ported, Adobe Photoshop has been ported. Lots more have been. The main holdout seems to be apps with a lot of old plugins which don’t always have someone maintaining the code.
 
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ian87w said:
If the rumors were true, this Macbook Pro will probably the biggest backtracking Apple has ever done.
going back to magsafe, dropping the touch bar, going back to legacy ports. Although it will satisfy some youtubers to create more clickbaits, I would really question Apple's "vision." Do we really need those legacy ports, considering we're progressing more towards remote working and cloud (hastened by the pandemic)?

I thought Apple ditching magsafe for USB-C charging is for the better. This means no more expensive proprietary Apple only charger. All Apple needs to do is put USB-C ports on both sides of the laptop for versatile charging locations. Going back to the proprietary magsafe seems backwards, although it does give Apple more profit for people needing to replace their chargers/cables.
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If they do bring back magsafe, I bet they keep the USB-C charging as an option. It is so built into the spec and their system for USB-C that they would have to do exta work to remove it just to make things less convenient for their customers.
 
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cmaier said:
48Gbps USB 2.1 bandwidth would be a good reason to have that port instead of a USB-C port (which hits only 40)
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Or they can use the space for 2+ USB-C ports. Allow 2 ports to be bonded together for 80Gb of bandwidth. Then 3rd party vendors can produce dongles to support HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 2.0, etc.
 
Ion-X said:
ARM is not really limited in the same way that iOS is. Apple Silicon can run virtually any Intel Mac app and has an open app platform that doesn’t require you to ever use the Mac App Store.
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ARM and M1 are fantastic (on my MacBook Air)

Big Sur should be called Bug Sur.... it one of those OS X releases that's just bad.

They need to go back to making things work again in the next release. Slimming, trimming, and fixing up things, stop adding new launchpads and whatever, and just focus on size and speed. Then it will fly.
 
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