It would be highly usual for Apple to separate the announcements of one line of Macs like that. Unless, of course, this 12" MBP turns out to be an all-new multi-touch, flash-based ultraportable for $999 that's gonna set the world on fire.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
New MacBook Pro's on Tuesday, June 5th 2007?
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Guessing...
My guess for Macbook pro update in June 2007
-2.4 Mhz (low end) and 2.6Mhz (High end)
-Santa Rosa
-200 HD standard
-Turbo memory
-2Gb memory (low end) and 3Gb (High end) (standard memory)
(-HDMI output)
My guess for Macbook pro update in June 2007
-2.4 Mhz (low end) and 2.6Mhz (High end)
-Santa Rosa
-200 HD standard
-Turbo memory
-2Gb memory (low end) and 3Gb (High end) (standard memory)
(-HDMI output)
You mean ThinkSecret's article?(jk)
So, who's gonna go ahead and order right away, and who's gonna wait until after WWDC to see if anything of interest comes out then?
If Back To School also happens on Tuesday, I'll be ordering straight away.
I have a question for everyone out there. I have been waiting for this coming release for so long and it finally looks like it's going to happen in two days (June 5th), but here are some things I personally am looking at.
1- I am a Best Buy employee (Geek Squad to be exact) and want to purchase directly threw Best Buy because of the fact I get a discount, but also the service plans Best Buy offers. My first question is... If they do release them on the 5th, will stores like Best Buy have them readly available on that date?
2- Second issue at hand is that I am leaving home on the 24th - 30th to compete in the Skills USA National competition (web design) so I need my Mac Book Pro before that to get everything on it and ready. Will I get it before my deadline?
Your personal opinions on this matter is important to me so shoot away!
1- I am a Best Buy employee (Geek Squad to be exact) and want to purchase directly threw Best Buy because of the fact I get a discount, but also the service plans Best Buy offers. My first question is... If they do release them on the 5th, will stores like Best Buy have them readly available on that date?
2- Second issue at hand is that I am leaving home on the 24th - 30th to compete in the Skills USA National competition (web design) so I need my Mac Book Pro before that to get everything on it and ready. Will I get it before my deadline?
Your personal opinions on this matter is important to me so shoot away!
I think you will have time enough to put everything ready for your contest, even if they would only release them on the 11th of June.
I'm an (almost) PC to Mac convert and I have been eyeing up a macbook pro for several weeks now. I'm so glad I found this thread, but the idea of waiting any longer (now that I have the money) is just killing me!
If this was answered previously, forgive me, but not being familiar with the WWDC and the new releases, I wanted to know: IF there is an announcement about a new type of macbook or features at a conference like that, are they available online at the Apple store immediately, or is there a several-day delay?
If this was answered previously, forgive me, but not being familiar with the WWDC and the new releases, I wanted to know: IF there is an announcement about a new type of macbook or features at a conference like that, are they available online at the Apple store immediately, or is there a several-day delay?
I think you mean reseller not retailer, and the apple stores will have products before any reseller.
this is supposed to be a nice update, not a earth moving level so don't expect bugs. online or in store there is little difference other than a day or two unless you want to upgrade an option which then should be done online.
Just a thought.... but couldn't a magnetic latch (like we all want) cause some problems with the internals if they were to keep the metal casing?
this is not an issue. the type of magnets you are referring to need to be very very powerful.
Since it is not a "brand new" product launch then as soon as the keynote is over you can jump on the website and buy right away. Not sure how long until they have it in Apple stores but online buyers should get theirs within a week, depending on where you live and if the have enough pre-built.
I've been checking several online stores in Europe. Where normally the MBP's are being shipped within 24 hours, now the stores have changed shipping to 3/5 days for the low and Medium-end MPB's.
If next tuesday the update is good enough for me, I'm buying the same day. Have been waiting for so long now. First I was waiting for leopard, then I realised the MBP was already over it's lifecycle. Now I'm waiting for this update. After all Leopard can be installed when's it's being released.
One thing is for sure, I'll be quite nervous next tuesday. Can't wait until the store goed online again and see what has changed, it's like Christmas morning.
I'm hoping for Santa Rosa, LED display together with a new GPU, a standard 160 GB and 2GB. Let's see this tuesday...
If next tuesday the update is good enough for me, I'm buying the same day. Have been waiting for so long now. First I was waiting for leopard, then I realised the MBP was already over it's lifecycle. Now I'm waiting for this update. After all Leopard can be installed when's it's being released.
One thing is for sure, I'll be quite nervous next tuesday. Can't wait until the store goed online again and see what has changed, it's like Christmas morning.
I'm hoping for Santa Rosa, LED display together with a new GPU, a standard 160 GB and 2GB. Let's see this tuesday...
if apple ever put that card in a laptop, i would buy it in a second. But I doubt thats ever going to happen.
lol. Omg if apple ever put that card in a laptop, i would buy it in a second. But I doubt thats ever going to happen
Hear, hear..
(Although if it IS released this Tuesday, I am still going to -- very grudgingly -- wait until after WWDC to make sure I'm not missing anything.) Can't wait!!!
EDIT: From the article:
This whole paragraph didn't make sense to me. What is he talking about?
I'm pretty sure hes talking about the possibility of two 8800 latop cards in SLI
Not unless you want to gain half an inch in thickness. Apple still has to obey the laws of physics.
They have had a two card SLI solution for almost a year now on the AMD side.
It was just news no a suggestion or hope that Apple would include it in the MacBook Pro.
You want to buy two cards, right?
And stop double posting...
Manners Please (and Don't Misrepresent Me, Either)
[
First, no one corrected me. No one stated in that thread that 800MHz memory is available for laptops, although it obviously is (now). I don't think anyone knew or stated that there was 800MHz memory available for laptops on June 1, but other posters also inquired about this. Much of the speculation revolved around the fact that other OEMs did not/were not/are not offering laptops with 800MHz memory. This has not changed yet. AidenShaw did mention the cost of 2GiB [RAM sticks], and I suggested that it was practically unaffordable.
I am glad the prices have dropped, but the initial prices were fairly steep. I suggested in partthat the increase to 800MHz RAM might not happen because of its cost.
Perhaps you have never had the privilege of dealing with an OEM other than Apple?!?! One example: Some years ago, I ordered a Dell Inspiron 6000 of which I eventually refused to receive from UPS because I later found out when I tried to order memory for it from Crucial that the laptop only supported 400MHz DDR-2 RAM even though Dell advertised it as a 533MHz FSB. I have a list of customer service codes from Dell concerning my complaint and filed complaints with the BBB, State Attorney General, and other relevant agencies. (Sorry, right now my folder from the incident is packed in a box in preparation for my upcoming move.) The Customer Service Manager eventually admitted that the tech department confirmed that although the P-M had a FSB of 533MHz, there was a memory controller that limited the throughput to 400MHz. The problem with Dell was that they nowhere informed the customer of this problem and the outcry became so loud that they closed the online forums. This was before or around the time of Apple's Intel switch. I have always wondered if Apple might pull a similar stunt--all other PC OEMs do. BTW, I apologize, but I did not bookmark the page of that source, but see below.
Ok, my mistake. I was tired when I wrote it.
Well, it is well known, if you read anandtech.com or any other PC site which is not a rumor-mill, that Penryn may not be backwards compatible. Most discussions concern desktop motherboards so there is a bit of speculation here. However, so that you may see for yourself, the quote below is from an April 16 article entitled, "Intel Developer Forum-Beijing 2007: Penryn and Intel's High End GPU":
"Finally, with regards to motherboard support, Intel isn’t making any guarantees about Penryn’s backwards compatibility. While Penryn will still use the LGA-775 socket that Prescott and Conroe have used, motherboard support will require more than just the presence of the socket. If the appropriate VRM spec is implemented, then Penryn will work on your LGA-775 motherboard, the problem is that motherboard manufacturers haven’t yet released information on which of their boards will support the Penryn VRM changes. If history repeats itself, you can expect very limited official support for Penryn in currently shipping motherboards and guaranteed support with boards based on Intel’s new 3 series chipsets (e.g. P35). We did see Penryn up and running on an Intel BadAxe2 board, but it had a hardware VRM modification done to it in order to properly support Penryn. Penryn may also be able to work on boards without a VRM mod, however at increased (potentially out-of-spec) voltage settings."
In light of the fact that there is no specific discussion of mobile motherboards, I will concede the reason for the SR chipset revision may not be because of socket compatibility with Penryn. However, consider the following quote from another article, as well:
"In the first half of 2008, Santa Rosa will get a refresh to support mobile Penryn processors. Currently Intel is only indicating updated processor support with the Santa Rosa refresh; the rest of the components may remain unchanged."
Does this indicate a change in the memory controller?
I never said anything about aftermarket companies. I only spoke about what Apple would ship as an OEM because I was speaking within the scope of the discussion. That said, I believe that this has been covered thoroughly in PC sites. Intel is capping the first generation of Merom chips at 2.[33]GHz. [Edit: I think Apple will use the same chipset for all MBPs so they must use the new chipset.] The new chips that Apple will put in the MBP will likely be the second generation of Merom chips running at 2.2GHz and 2.4GHz. Like I said, there are many architectural changes that were made in the revision that will be more productive than ramping up the clock speeds. Thus the speed difference between the MB and MBP will be greater than what the GHz makes it appear, and Apple will be forced to use SR to utilize 2.4 GHz chips. Just don't act all surprised if the FSB is still only 667MHz.
The top speed of 2.4GHz has been known a lot longer than you apparently realize. Intel's future roadmaps have been out for a while and their speeds and prices were leaked as well. Also, I do appreciate, but don't need, the extra speed from a 2.6GHz CPU. However, I highly doubt (but would rejoice if ever) Apple would include an overclockable chip in one of its laptops. Apple is a 'control' company--not for overclockers.
How can you include the 2.6GHz CPU in your upcoming projection when it won't be available until July???
Your projections would be nice, but I'm afraid you will be vastly disappointed until the imminent hardware refresh following Leopard.
I don't think this will happen until Oct/Nov or perhaps even Jan., but you are right, they will be nice systems if your wish comes true.
[
First, no one corrected me. No one stated in that thread that 800MHz memory is available for laptops, although it obviously is (now). I don't think anyone knew or stated that there was 800MHz memory available for laptops on June 1, but other posters also inquired about this. Much of the speculation revolved around the fact that other OEMs did not/were not/are not offering laptops with 800MHz memory. This has not changed yet. AidenShaw did mention the cost of 2GiB [RAM sticks], and I suggested that it was practically unaffordable.
I am glad the prices have dropped, but the initial prices were fairly steep. I suggested in partthat the increase to 800MHz RAM might not happen because of its cost.
Perhaps you have never had the privilege of dealing with an OEM other than Apple?!?! One example: Some years ago, I ordered a Dell Inspiron 6000 of which I eventually refused to receive from UPS because I later found out when I tried to order memory for it from Crucial that the laptop only supported 400MHz DDR-2 RAM even though Dell advertised it as a 533MHz FSB. I have a list of customer service codes from Dell concerning my complaint and filed complaints with the BBB, State Attorney General, and other relevant agencies. (Sorry, right now my folder from the incident is packed in a box in preparation for my upcoming move.) The Customer Service Manager eventually admitted that the tech department confirmed that although the P-M had a FSB of 533MHz, there was a memory controller that limited the throughput to 400MHz. The problem with Dell was that they nowhere informed the customer of this problem and the outcry became so loud that they closed the online forums. This was before or around the time of Apple's Intel switch. I have always wondered if Apple might pull a similar stunt--all other PC OEMs do. BTW, I apologize, but I did not bookmark the page of that source, but see below.
Ok, my mistake. I was tired when I wrote it.
Well, it is well known, if you read anandtech.com or any other PC site which is not a rumor-mill, that Penryn may not be backwards compatible. Most discussions concern desktop motherboards so there is a bit of speculation here. However, so that you may see for yourself, the quote below is from an April 16 article entitled, "Intel Developer Forum-Beijing 2007: Penryn and Intel's High End GPU":
"Finally, with regards to motherboard support, Intel isn’t making any guarantees about Penryn’s backwards compatibility. While Penryn will still use the LGA-775 socket that Prescott and Conroe have used, motherboard support will require more than just the presence of the socket. If the appropriate VRM spec is implemented, then Penryn will work on your LGA-775 motherboard, the problem is that motherboard manufacturers haven’t yet released information on which of their boards will support the Penryn VRM changes. If history repeats itself, you can expect very limited official support for Penryn in currently shipping motherboards and guaranteed support with boards based on Intel’s new 3 series chipsets (e.g. P35). We did see Penryn up and running on an Intel BadAxe2 board, but it had a hardware VRM modification done to it in order to properly support Penryn. Penryn may also be able to work on boards without a VRM mod, however at increased (potentially out-of-spec) voltage settings."
In light of the fact that there is no specific discussion of mobile motherboards, I will concede the reason for the SR chipset revision may not be because of socket compatibility with Penryn. However, consider the following quote from another article, as well:
"In the first half of 2008, Santa Rosa will get a refresh to support mobile Penryn processors. Currently Intel is only indicating updated processor support with the Santa Rosa refresh; the rest of the components may remain unchanged."
Does this indicate a change in the memory controller?
I never said anything about aftermarket companies. I only spoke about what Apple would ship as an OEM because I was speaking within the scope of the discussion. That said, I believe that this has been covered thoroughly in PC sites. Intel is capping the first generation of Merom chips at 2.[33]GHz. [Edit: I think Apple will use the same chipset for all MBPs so they must use the new chipset.] The new chips that Apple will put in the MBP will likely be the second generation of Merom chips running at 2.2GHz and 2.4GHz. Like I said, there are many architectural changes that were made in the revision that will be more productive than ramping up the clock speeds. Thus the speed difference between the MB and MBP will be greater than what the GHz makes it appear, and Apple will be forced to use SR to utilize 2.4 GHz chips. Just don't act all surprised if the FSB is still only 667MHz.
The top speed of 2.4GHz has been known a lot longer than you apparently realize. Intel's future roadmaps have been out for a while and their speeds and prices were leaked as well. Also, I do appreciate, but don't need, the extra speed from a 2.6GHz CPU. However, I highly doubt (but would rejoice if ever) Apple would include an overclockable chip in one of its laptops. Apple is a 'control' company--not for overclockers.
How can you include the 2.6GHz CPU in your upcoming projection when it won't be available until July???
Your projections would be nice, but I'm afraid you will be vastly disappointed until the imminent hardware refresh following Leopard.
I don't think this will happen until Oct/Nov or perhaps even Jan., but you are right, they will be nice systems if your wish comes true.
I'm gonna be completely honest... I REALLY hope the new MBP's aren't released until June 11. I need to wait until then anyway because there may be a Leopard coupon or whatever, and I don't want to have to wait forever afterward for my freakin' order to ship! God I'm stressed abnout this
I'm gonna be completely honest... I REALLY hope the new MBP's aren't released until June 11. I need to wait until then anyway because there may be a Leopard coupon or whatever, and I don't want to have to wait forever afterward for my freakin' order to ship! God I'm stressed abnout this
Im in the same ****ing boat. Maybe Apple will say something like nothing new on WWDC for notebooks and/or you wont/will get leopard.