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New MacBook Pros to Carry Larger Trackpads, Dedicated SSD for Mac OS X?

johndoejohndoes said:
Uh, I'm not making anything up...
http://www.stupidlaws.com/you-cannot-bathe-two-babies-in-the-same-tub-at-the-same-time/
http://laws.justsickshit.com/california-stupid-laws/

gtfo:D
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There are in fact stupid laws, although, in my opinion, if you feel that copyright and intellectual property rights are counted with that lot you are an idiot…

When you buy a CD, iTunes download, Bluray… whatever you are buying 1 license to listen to/watch the media. If you encode it for your iPod/laptop you are under fair use because you are still the intended consumer. But as soon as you give away, sell, trade, rent, or whatever a copy of or the original you are in breach of your license.

But don't listen to me, I only make a living off the licensing of my intellectual property.
 
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Ok...this is a mac forum....quit with all the copyright deal please....who cares who's is bigger ;)
 
I'm not sure that a definitive "no" is the correct answer here. An argument can be made that it is a fair use of music that you own to (for example) create a compilation CD of favorite songs for your personal use (many digital downloads, even the iTunes downloads that come with DRM, will permit burning songs to multiple disks). To my knowledge, limited copying of this nature hasn't been challenged in the courts as copyright infringement, largely because the record companies have bigger fish to fry, and I suspect also because they don't want to test the waters on fair use on this issue. Most suits against individual copiers of music involve individuals who are sharing large catalogs of music with the entire world through programs such as BitTorrent.

To be sure, if you were to contact the record companies and actually get someone to respond to you, I'm sure they would take the position that Ms. Kaiser has taken. And with most downloads in the $1 to $1.50 range, the safest path would seem to be to just download another copy.

As noted by my colleagues above, this answer is not intended to be legal advice, and does not form an attorney-client relationship.
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http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-it-ok-to-copy-cd-music-for-an-immediate-family--160136.html


But he is from Virginia so.... y'know what they say about Virginians.
 
PBF said:
I hope the new MacBook Pros are NOT as cool as the current MacBook Airs.

It'd make my ultimate MacBook Air awfully pointless.
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:)

I'm hoping they are cool or cooler. The MBA is a nice second machine though, so treat yourself ;)
 
knownikko said:
So a "PC" that doesn't run Windows is different than a "Mac" that doesn't run Windows... how?
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It's actually easy. PC hardware is OS agnostic. It can run Windows, Linux, Unix etc. Mac hardware can not run anything but OS/X (well, we know there is BootCamp but can it run Linux?). In other words, PCs can run anything, Macs can run only what Apple allows them to run (i.e. close system). This is one of the reasons why you do not see Macs on the left picture.
 
Since I took all that effort to create a user login to feed a troll I might as well contribute…

It has been posted a few times already, but I believe the SSDs that are allegedly going to show up in the new line of Mac Book Pros will be similar to the Momentus XT drives, except instead of being on the drive it'll be built into the logic board (though I hope it uses similar tech to the blade SSDs in the Airs for the sake of repairs and upgrades)

I think there will be some under the hood processing that will be able to decipher what parts of the drive are accessed most frequently and they will be duplicated on the SSD for the sake of speed. I think for most users the things that'll benefit the most for being duped are the databases that hold your mail inbox, your iTunes library, and similarly important files that are the most beneficial to the increased speed.
 
shastapete said:
Since I took all that effort to create a user login to feed a troll I might as well contribute…

It has been posted a few times already, but I believe the SSDs that are allegedly going to show up in the new line of Mac Book Pros will be similar to the Momentus XT drives, except instead of being on the drive it'll be built into the logic board (though I hope it uses similar tech to the blade SSDs in the Airs for the sake of repairs and upgrades)

I think there will be some under the hood processing that will be able to decipher what parts of the drive are accessed most frequently and they will be duplicated on the SSD for the sake of speed. I think for most users the things that'll benefit the most for being duped are the databases that hold your mail inbox, your iTunes library, and similarly important files that are the most beneficial to the increased speed.
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That would make a lot of sense, and would avoid the user interface hassles of dealing with and managing two drives. However I'm not sure it can be done very well using off-the-shelf drives - The Momentus XT design benefits from being able to bypass the SATA bus for communications between the flash and the hard drive.
 
I don't care what the update is, I'll be selling my Early 2010 MBP (see sig) to buy the updated high-end matte 17 MBP. Hell Yeah!
 
lilo777 said:
It's actually easy. PC hardware is OS agnostic. It can run Windows, Linux, Unix etc. Mac hardware can not run anything but OS/X (well, we know there is BootCamp but can it run Linux?). In other words, PCs can run anything, Macs can run only what Apple allows them to run (i.e. close system). This is one of the reasons why you do not see Macs on the left picture.
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You're very confused. Mac's are the only ones you can install OSX, Windows, Linux or Unix on... oh... and OSX is Unix based. Enjoy...

Now... back to the topic here... MBP rumors.
 
iPhone1 said:
An SSD to host only the OS and apps; genius!
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Yes. Unfortunately. This makes perfect sense - the OS will be on the super fast SSD, media and other stuff on a cheap huge HD.

So I was hoping for cheap large SSDs and that's clearly not gonna happen with the hybrid approach. Even upgrading to an SSD in the man HD bay won't make all that much difference as the OS is already on the Flash.

Ah, whatever, I guess it's good news. :p

No optical drive, for sure - half a pound in weight savings sounds about right.

Jeez, Apple, can you please make a 15" MacBook Air? Please?!
 
orthorim said:
Yes. Unfortunately. This makes perfect sense - the OS will be on the super fast SSD, media and other stuff on a cheap huge HD.

So I was hoping for cheap large SSDs and that's clearly not gonna happen with the hybrid approach. Even upgrading to an SSD in the man HD bay won't make all that much difference as the OS is already on the Flash.

Ah, whatever, I guess it's good news. :p

No optical drive, for sure - half a pound in weight savings sounds about right.

Jeez, Apple, can you please make a 15" MacBook Air? Please?!
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There will be an optical drive. Heard it here first. (More like fourth).
 
cmaier said:
That would make a lot of sense, and would avoid the user interface hassles of dealing with and managing two drives. However I'm not sure it can be done very well using off-the-shelf drives - The Momentus XT design benefits from being able to bypass the SATA bus for communications between the flash and the hard drive.
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I would hazard a guess and say that the apple implementation would be similar

SATA Controller --> Apple Hybrid Chipset / SSD --> SATA Hard Drive

The Apple solution would be able to intercept and respond with the appropriate information, and this setup would let the Hybrid SSD know what data blocks are most popular, and copy them to the SSD with out harming SATA thru put.
 
AJ Predictions said:
mbp-liquid-metal-mockup-compare.jpg


This may be far from reality... but I love to dream.
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Don t we all?
 
Look what was just tweeted by 9to5mac:

"New MBPros just arrived in the loading dock @ Myer and David Jones Retailers in Melbourne AU secure wrapped pallets w/ an embargo date stamp"
 
Popeye206 said:
You're very confused. Mac's are the only ones you can install OSX, Windows, Linux or Unix on... oh... and OSX is Unix based. Enjoy...

Now... back to the topic here... MBP rumors.
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You can load OSX on non-Apple produced hardware they just probably won't be as sexy looking ;)
 
Popeye206 said:
You're very confused. Mac's are the only ones you can install OSX, Windows, Linux or Unix on... oh... and OSX is Unix based. Enjoy...

Now... back to the topic here... MBP rumors.
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Nope. You can not install anything of this (except for Windows) - at least not legally.
Edit: I might be wrong about it though.
 
lilo777 said:
It's actually easy. PC hardware is OS agnostic. It can run Windows, Linux, Unix etc. Mac hardware can not run anything but OS/X (well, we know there is BootCamp but can it run Linux?). In other words, PCs can run anything, Macs can run only what Apple allows them to run (i.e. close system). This is one of the reasons why you do not see Macs on the left picture.
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Another reason: the picture was a cheap potshot made by some hater who is obviously not a scientist. Visit some labs and you will find as many macs as in your local Starbucks.

In our lab we like our PC just for occasionally connecting to that old COM port on some 20-yrs-old equipment ;)
 
wizzlez said:
This makes me think they arent ditching the optical drive. Unless they are putting another battery in there and advertising 4 trillion hour sleep battery time. I'm broken hearted I desperately want a 128 GB SSD for me to put Adobe CS5 and final cut studio and logic studio on, plus all my games, then give us a 500 GB HDD in the optibay.
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You can easily do this in about 30 mins with a data doubler from ocw. Www.macsales.com. Get a 7200 750gb for the optical bay.
 
wizard said:
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At this point I think there is another possibility that you guys are missing. To put it simply maybe the flash is there to act as a backing store for the system RAM. This would allow for near instant restarted to the exact place you left off. This solutions would require ZERO power when the unit is off. Makes perfect sense considering the RAM sizes in today's portables.

In otherwords the flash isn't there for any sort of system storage. It simply there to facilitate fast restarts back to the same context when the machine was shut down.
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Good theory. But it doesn't make much sense as the RAM is already preserved in sleep mode, and waking from sleep is already instant. Only when the battery runs down to a very low level does OS X store the RAM contents on the disk.

No mac user should ever shut down their system - just sleep it. The only time I restart is when I install system updates.

Using the Flash in this way would give a very small advantage for a border case that doesn't happen very often in real life.

Using the Flash to host the OS, on the other hand would provide a huge speed boost over current HD based systems. Not just booting, all areas of using the system are way faster. My SSD based MacBook Pro feels faster than a brand new HD based MBP even though it has a slower processor, bus, etc.
 
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