New MacBook Pros to Carry Larger Trackpads, Dedicated SSD for Mac OS X?

[ChrisTX]

Somone needs to quit playing around and slice open one of those pallets!

 

[ghsDUDE]

Wait a sec... Assuming this is true there are going to be 2 SATA ports occupied by the SSD and the HDD. Knowing Intel previously recalled iX Sandy Bridge chips because SATA ports after 0 & 1 were recalled; and also knowing that manufacturers of Apples' mbp product line simply made adjustments to the logic board rather than delaying the product launch... wouldn't this support the assertion that the ODD is dropped in the new mbp's? Otherwise the ODD performance would decrease over time... unless it was not connected via SATA

Can someone please answer this?

 

[cmaier]

But you can buy something off of iTunes and upload it on up to 3 other computers am I right? So say I do that, to my family, and then they burn a copy of what's rightfully theirs? Huh? With iTunes you can make copy's but not with a CD? There isn't a Yes/No answer to this situation...it's complicated.

Yes there is a yes/no answer. The license is different when you buy a song on iTunes and when you buy a song on CD.

As I said before, 17 USC 106 grants exclusive rights (including copying) to the copyright holder. The copyright holder may choose to allow you to exercise some of his rights. He does so by giving you a license. The license can restrict what you may do. The iTunes license allows multiple computers, and allows burning on CD (albeit with randomization of songs, etc.) The CD license only allows you to play the CD. It does not permit copying.

 

[cmaier]

Can someone please answer this?

If they are doing something like how the Momentus works, they would use their own chip to interface to SATA and use only one port. The chip would add its own port to talk to the HD. This would allow the chip to intercept the SATA commands/data and make it look to the system as if there is a single disk.

 

[milescortez]

Also, one more question, kinda off topic...say I transfer all the iTunes music to another computer with an external hard drive (I want to keep my playlists and play counts) Do I just select "Album Artwork, iTunes Music, and the iTunes Library" in the iTunes Folder and paste them onto my new device?

just move the iTunes file to the external drive. Open iTunes preferences, advanced and deselect copy to library.

 

[ghsDUDE]

Yes there is a yes/no answer. The license is different when you buy a song on iTunes and when you buy a song on CD.

As I said before, 17 USC 106 grants exclusive rights (including copying) to the copyright holder. The copyright holder may choose to allow you to exercise some of his rights. He does so by giving you a license. The license can restrict what you may do. The iTunes license allows multiple computers, and allows burning on CD (albeit with randomization of songs, etc.) The CD license only allows you to play the CD. It does not permit copying.

Ok...technically and legally you are correct...but I do have a question...
Have you ever burned a CD you bought for someone else?

 

[vincenz]

The rumors just get weirder and weirder every day. I doubt we'll see any of this on launch day.

 

[drinkonlyscotch]

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Why is it that a lot of people would be happy to see the optical drive go? As the name suggests, a lot of people have this mbp for buisiness reasons. Hence the pro! We need riability. I for one often have to give my clients large files. How are all those other people doing this? Are you all giving away free usb-sticks to your clients???? No, please keep the optical drive. By the way, if the ssd becomes the ROOT folder (where the OS is installed), how are you planning to install the applicatipns that rely to be installed on the ROOT folder if it is this small?

I'm a pro. I run an ad agency on my Macbook. I haven't sent a client or vendor an optical disc since 2007. And "free usb-sticks"? Are you serious? It's called the Internet. Get a 100GB DropBox account. Your clients can download 9.4GB (the equivalent of a DL-DVD) faster than the swiftest courier can deliver a disc. My clients do all the time. We ditched optical discs when we ditched paper. Welcome to the future.

 

[ghsDUDE]

If they are doing something like how the Momentus works, they would use their own chip to interface to SATA and use only one port. The chip would add its own port to talk to the HD. This would allow the chip to intercept the SATA commands/data and make it look to the system as if there is a single disk.

So there shouldn't be any problems in the future?

 

[Val-kyrie]

Actually, this all makes sense if Apple is using the first-gen combo SSD/optical drive from Hitachi-LG which only had SSD options of 8GB and 16GB. I would expect the second gen drives later this year in a subsequent update.

 

[michaelz]

It's a shame for MacBook Pro to have 16GB SSD!

There is no way apple will put 8 or 16GB SSD in MacBook Pro for faster boot. Macbook Air already have 128 or 256GB built in SSD, cost is not an issue. Jobs will sure fire anyone even bring that idea. Can't believe so many people actually excited about this rumor...

 

[cmaier]

Ok...technically and legally you are correct...but I do have a question...
Have you ever burned a CD you bought for someone else?

Copied a whole CD and given it to someone? No. Made mix tapes? Yes. Though that was pre-CD. Nowadays I don't buy CD's (just amazon mp3's), which I stick on my server and sync to two iPhones.

Not that it would matter. If I did it, it still wouldn't be legal.

 

[shiftmx05]

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"I'm a pro. I run an ad agency on my Macbook. I haven't sent a client or vendor an optical disc since 2007. And "free usb-sticks"? Are you serious? It's called the Internet. Get a 100GB DropBox account. Your clients can download 9.4GB (the equivalent of a DL-DVD) faster than the swiftest courier can deliver a disc. My clients do all the time. We ditched optical discs when we ditched paper. Welcome to the future."


Well said... Well said my friend

Optical drives are long gone

 

[Mattsasa]

Somone needs to quit playing around and slice open one of those pallets!

all right, I'll skip school tomorrow, head over to an apple store. kill all the employees. rip open those boxes take tons of pics, upload them to the internet. go to for life. become an internet hero

 

[dnenciu]

Even Apple's middle-of-the-road SSDs will be faster than a spinning disk. And you can hibernate forever with a mac the way it is now, so I don't think there's much benefit to jut increasing hibernate time.

Yes the apple ssds will be faster than a regular disk. That is not the problem the problem is that now there are much faster options (intel, sandforce, C300). Also 16Gb is useless as I need to speed up my pro soft and have scratch disks which don't fit in that. Oh and also I will never ever want another grinding noise and heat from a platter disk in my laptop. A regular disk defeats the quiet fans in an mbp with that annoying clicking and grinding noises it makes.

And lets not even start talking about how good a first version of a feature from apple really is and how many months it takes them to fix the issues.

 

[hcho3]

There is no way apple will put 8 or 16GB SSD in MacBook Pro for faster boot. Macbook Air already have 128 or 256GB built in SSD, cost is not an issue. Jobs will sure fire anyone even bring that idea. Can't believe so many people actually excited about this rumor...

The pro users won't be satisfied with 128GB storage or even 256GB storage. They will scream for 512GB or 1 TB and they are so expensive.

MBA 11 and 13 inch laptops have SSD yes, but that's where all the money went.

All of these new MBP have more ports, better graphic cards, faster processor and bigger battery. That's where the money is going.

 

[AJ Predictions]

There is no way apple will put 8 or 16GB SSD in MacBook Pro for faster boot. Macbook Air already have 128 or 256GB built in SSD, cost is not an issue. Jobs will sure fire anyone even bring that idea. Can't believe so many people actually excited about this rumor...

Even if there so much evidence this won't happen, admit it... your hoping that it's true.

 

[cmaier]

Yes the apple ssds will be faster than a regular disk. That is not the problem the problem is that now there are much faster options (intel, sandforce, C300). Also 16Gb is useless as I need to speed up my pro soft and have scratch disks which don't fit in that. Oh and also I will never ever want another grinding noise and heat from a platter disk in my laptop. A regular disk defeats the quiet fans in an mbp with that annoying clicking and grinding noises it makes.

And lets not even start talking about how good a first version of a feature from apple really is and how many months it takes them to fix the issues.

I don't see the problem. Get the smallest HD option, take it out and replace it with sandforce. The 16GB won't hurt you - you wouldn't have to use it(unless it's locked into the caching mode some people have suggested).

 

[DisMyMac]

it only gets sandy bridge and usb 3.0 and 3 year old laptop hardware at twice the price

It might not get USB 3.

Apple already lost me on laptops. If they don't have USB 3 by the time my 2006 iMac dies, then I will be finished with them.

 

[poop deck pappy]

I wonder if the new, larger trackpad will be made from, instead of glass, liquid metal?

liquid metal is, afterall, amorphous and so one would expect it to have the same properties as glass, albeit with better conductivity due to the free electrons.

Does this sound plausible or crazy? I'm not 100% familiar with the physical properties of liquid metal but it would make sense and create a more flush macbook pro appearance, no?

That's as good a guess as any. The only application we know of with apple and lqmt is the sim card ejector for the 3g. i use mine as a pipe stoker and am happy to report it has stirred my pipe for three years now with no damage. Btw it doesn't conduct heat well. This kind of small use is classic apple. Use the product first and see how it performs in the field.
Besides being much harder to dent, the lqmt requires no milling after the casting. A small but time consuming step. It also have no shrinkage after casting. As Kastanza how important that is.
Lastly i've broken two iph4's. I would like to see it come to the iph5.

 

[inertiadriftsc]

Nope. You can not install anything of this (except for Windows) - at least not legally.
Edit: I might be wrong about it though.

No, you can install anything on the EFI base. You just have to get linux to run in EFI-only mode to run it natively. Otherwise macs can run anything in dual boot via the BIOS emulation feature. Requires some tools like rEFIt and some low level system knowledge, but it's definitely very doable though not simple.

EFI is a standard interface developed by Intel, initially for use on itanium platforms, that mac decided to use over (IBM developed) BIOS when they switched to x86. Ultimately, though and x86_64 OS will run on the Mac hardware platform if you can support EFI.

 

[Mattsasa]

There is no way apple will put 8 or 16GB SSD in MacBook Pro for faster boot. Macbook Air already have 128 or 256GB built in SSD, cost is not an issue. Jobs will sure fire anyone even bring that idea. Can't believe so many people actually excited about this rumor...

the way this will work is there will be an 8-16gb ssd that os x runs on, Apple won't tell us how much it is, just that the OS runs on it. it wont be configurable, under the laptop specs it won't mention that at all it would just show how much the regular drive is. Apple will try make it not a big deal at all and in theory the consumer won't even know os x is on another drive, they will just notice the increase in performance.

users will get to select how big there main drive is, 320, 500, etc. or they could select a 256 or 512gb ssd as their main drive.

the 8-16gb ssd that OSX is on will be like the 8gb ssd the apple tv has, in other words apple will pretend it doesn't exist

 

[knownikko]

Nope. You can not install anything of this (except for Windows) - at least not legally.
Edit: I might be wrong about it though.

You are definitely, horribly wrong.

 

[cmaier]

That's as good a guess as any. The only application we know of with apple and lqmt is the sim card ejector for the 3g. i use mine as a pipe stoker and am happy to report it has stirred my pipe for three years now with no damage. Btw it doesn't conduct heat well. This kind of small use is classic apple. Use the product first and see how it performs in the field.
Besides being much harder to dent, the lqmt requires no milling after the casting. A small but time consuming step. It also have no shrinkage after casting. As Kastanza how important that is.
Lastly i've broken two iph4's. I would like to see it come to the iph5.

Wouldn't be a very good idea to make a capacitive sensor from a conductor. Because, you know, it's not an insulator.

 

[AJ Predictions]

It might not get USB 3.

Apple already lost me on laptops. If they don't have USB 3 by the time my 2006 iMac dies, then I will be finished with them.

Well then I guess your finished. The new MBP's will not have USB 3. They are getting something even better... light peak. Now go and buy a netbook with an atom processor.