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New MacBook Pros to Carry Larger Trackpads, Dedicated SSD for Mac OS X?

how did we get so far off topic....

I say there is 54.2% chance that we will get one of the following,
1 liquidmetal
2 lightpeak
3 kill dvd drive
 
funkymonk said:
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rofl!!!
 
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dnenciu said:
I agree about the ssd.

I will probably get an 2010 model if they go with some crappy 8-16gb flash solution.

I want to run professional apps of of it that already take 40-50gb to install and than scratch disks for Photoshop and other apps would take me easily to 100GB+.

Why would I want to go down from the current mbp 2008 that has an ssd in it?

I'm just afraid that is true and will get some crappy 8-16gb partition that will cause all kinds of issues and of course will take away one SATA port on the motherboard.

I really hope that if they go that route they allow a custom build without the ssd flash so that I can customize it with a reall ssd not some half baked solution.
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Wait a sec... Assuming this is true there are going to be 2 SATA ports occupied by the SSD and the HDD. Knowing Intel previously recalled iX Sandy Bridge chips because SATA ports after 0 & 1 were recalled; and also knowing that manufacturers of Apples' mbp product line simply made adjustments to the logic board rather than delaying the product launch... wouldn't this support the assertion that the ODD is dropped in the new mbp's? Otherwise the ODD performance would decrease over time... unless it was not connected via SATA
 
MacSA said:
People are expecting so much now based on many rumours...I think some are bound to be disappointed in some way.
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Yes that is unavoidable... But I'm still hopping for a bit more than just a minor upgrade... The no event thing however makes this very unlikely...
 
cmaier said:
That would make a lot of sense, and would avoid the user interface hassles of dealing with and managing two drives. However I'm not sure it can be done very well using off-the-shelf drives - The Momentus XT design benefits from being able to bypass the SATA bus for communications between the flash and the hard drive.
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Momentus xt drives are having problems. See below from engadget yesterday.

All's not well in hybrid solid state storage land, as owners of Seagate's Momentus XT are facing serious issues with their drives -- despite glowing initial reviews, a number of long-term users claim that the drives chirp, crash, stutter, and freeze with alarming regularity, particularly when installed in a Mac. Seagate forumgoers speculate these are symptoms of the XT's magnetic platters spinning down inappropriately, due to an overzealous power management scheme. That's the bad news -- and it sounds pretty bad -- but the good news is this: Seagate's owning up to the issues, and is actively involved in getting them fixed. So far, a pair of new firmware updates have addressed some symptoms, a third is on the way, and a Seagate engineer known only as STX_NB is proactively chatting with affected customers about possible fixes. That's what we call technical support -- take notes, tech companies.
 
orthorim said:
Good theory. But it doesn't make much sense as the RAM is already preserved in sleep mode, and waking from sleep is already instant. Only when the battery runs down to a very low level does OS X store the RAM contents on the disk.
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Wrong. It's called Safe Sleep, and it's the default. The contents of memory are always written to disk before sleeping. Notice the delay between when you close the lid and the LED starts pulsing? That's memory being written to disk.

If the "SSD" range of 8-16GB is indeed true, then it's definitely designed to store the contents of memory.
 
milescortez said:
Momentus xt drives are having problems. See below from engadget yesterday.

All's not well in hybrid solid state storage land, as owners of Seagate's Momentus XT are facing serious issues with their drives -- despite glowing initial reviews, a number of long-term users claim that the drives chirp, crash, stutter, and freeze with alarming regularity, particularly when installed in a Mac. Seagate forumgoers speculate these are symptoms of the XT's magnetic platters spinning down inappropriately, due to an overzealous power management scheme. That's the bad news -- and it sounds pretty bad -- but the good news is this: Seagate's owning up to the issues, and is actively involved in getting them fixed. So far, a pair of new firmware updates have addressed some symptoms, a third is on the way, and a Seagate engineer known only as STX_NB is proactively chatting with affected customers about possible fixes. That's what we call technical support -- take notes, tech companies.
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Yeah I would never go back to a plater based disk in my mbp as I don't need something that is slow, heats up and makes noises. I prefer to have an external drive for backup.

I respect that some people don't share my opinion and prefer the extra capacity integrated but personally I was really happy when I got rid of the platter drive for good.
 
hcho3 said:
I just hope apple would stop charing 100 dollars extra for higher resolution on 15 inch MBP and 50 dollars for matte screen. That thing should be standard.
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I've been using the glass screen for 2 years and I am fine with it now to be honest. I love to be able to give it a good scrub, and the fact that it has no scratches after 2 years of hard usage.

Matte is plastic, and so scratches.

A high rez screen is more expensive, I like that they offer the option.
 
PBF said:
I hope the new MacBook Pros are NOT as cool as the current MacBook Airs.

It'd make my ultimate MacBook Air awfully pointless.
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Why? Will your Air mysteriously morph into something it wasn't the day before?

It's amazing the crap some people worry about these days.
 
Keynote

Wish there was a Media Event scheduled this week.
Apple is about due for one and I was hoping for my invitation last week.
 
rezonat0r said:
Wrong. It's called Safe Sleep, and it's the default. The contents of memory are always written to disk before sleeping. Notice the delay between when you close the lid and the LED starts pulsing? That's memory being written to disk.

If the "SSD" range of 8-16GB is indeed true, then it's definitely designed to store the contents of memory.
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Actually safe sleep keeps the RAM powered up so it is draining the battery. If I'm not mistaken the mba does more of a hibernate that is why it can achieve the long standby times.

If that would be the role of the embedded flash (8gb to cover max RAM) than I would have no problem with it.

But as an os drive it would not be something I want as I need more than just basic os speed and apple is not known for high performance ssd options and it would be worse with integrated flash.
 
Richard1028 said:
Why? Will your Air mysteriously morph into something it wasn't the day before?

It's amazing the crap some people worry about these days.
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+1

I agree.

I hate comments like:

"I hate how apple always comes out with a new product that makes yours feel dated"

or

"Apple is such a bitch because they are not giving a free upgrade to their new product that is so much better than mine"
 
dnenciu said:
Actually safe sleep keeps the RAM powered up so it is draining the battery. If I'm not mistaken the mba does more of a hibernate that is why it can achieve the long standby times.

If that would be the role of the embedded flash (8gb to cover max RAM) than I would have no problem with it.

But as an os drive it would not be something I want as I need more than just basic os speed and apple is not known for high performance ssd options and it would be worse with integrated flash.
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Even Apple's middle-of-the-road SSDs will be faster than a spinning disk. And you can hibernate forever with a mac the way it is now, so I don't think there's much benefit to jut increasing hibernate time.
 
AJ Predictions said:
Light peak is basically a slight step upwards from USB 3.
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Exactly. It's only a small step up + a future big step up + FW400/800 compatible + ethernet compatible + DisplayPort compatible + USB 1/2/3 compatible. And you can daisy-chain it.

So, pretty much just like USB 3.
 
zigzagable said:
i don't disagree with you, however i do find it odd that they wouldn't hold a media event for a major update of the pros. i personally think they are gonna hold an event, which means that the pros aren't being released thursday. maybe tuesday of next week.
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Apples Pro's are well spread around the world. So it's not as if they can get enough of them in to one room for a product release. A website release with demo's and Mr Ive video's on the product page will get the information out to the right people in a way that respects their time. With an event you then have to wait for the stream to get the details if you life anywhere outside of USA.
 
shastapete said:
There are in fact stupid laws, although, in my opinion, if you feel that copyright and intellectual property rights are counted with that lot you are an idiot…

When you buy a CD, iTunes download, Bluray… whatever you are buying 1 license to listen to/watch the media. If you encode it for your iPod/laptop you are under fair use because you are still the intended consumer. But as soon as you give away, sell, trade, rent, or whatever a copy of or the original you are in breach of your license.

But don't listen to me, I only make a living off the licensing of my intellectual property.
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But you can buy something off of iTunes and upload it on up to 3 other computers am I right? So say I do that, to my family, and then they burn a copy of what's rightfully theirs? Huh? With iTunes you can make copy's but not with a CD? There isn't a Yes/No answer to this situation...it's complicated.
 
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