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New MacBook Pros to Carry Larger Trackpads, Dedicated SSD for Mac OS X?

cmaier said:
Remember that the rumor actually says you can opt for a single, large, SSD. So they make them all the same in that you can either have the blade or not.
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Well we will see what they will offer I guess when is announced.

If all I see is sandy bridge dual core and larger touchpad plus the 8-16gb flash I will probably go for a refurb i7 2.8 and use the change for a nice big ssd as the perf diff is not that big.

If on the other hand they put the quad in the 17" ...
 
dnenciu said:
If on the other hand they put the quad in the 17" ...
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Would be nice, but I doubt it. Depending on what they do for discrete graphics, they could probably get away with a quad if they underclock it a bit when all cores are active (more than what the chip does itself).
 
I saw this on tonight's episode of "HIMYM", the commercial for Disney Second Screen. I noticed it right off, a MBP without the light/IR port. Perhaps a leaked picture.

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TEG said:
I saw this on tonight's episode of "HIMYM", the commercial for Disney Second Screen. I noticed it right off, a MBP without the light/IR port. Perhaps a leaked picture.

TEG
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The shift keys on either side are HUGE, also it looks as though the trackpad has a slim button on the bottom edge, and it doesn't say macbook pro anywhere...

Still, it's very thin and the trackpad is large so who knows?
 
TEG said:
I saw this on tonight's episode of "HIMYM", the commercial for Disney Second Screen. I noticed it right off, a MBP without the light/IR port. Perhaps a leaked picture.

TEG
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lol..........why does the screen look so loppy?.................whered you get that pic?
 
I hope you guys do get what you hope out of this possible refresh. About the SSD though: I guess if they include an 16GB SSD, it would function to hold a backup of the operating system so it can be reinstalled in case of a messed up OSX. Lion might even be able to access this drive on the fly to replace malfunctioning files with their original copy. Just a guess of course.
 
edifyingGerbil said:
The shift keys on either side are HUGE, also it looks as though the trackpad has a slim button on the bottom edge, and it doesn't say macbook pro anywhere...

Still, it's very thin and the trackpad is large so who knows?
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There are unibody MacBooks that came out in 2008 so that's why it doesnt say pro. They are the same tho, apple just renamed it to a pro.....
 
michaelz said:
The new MacBook Air is so good that apple had to remove the backlight keyboard to keep MacBook Pro competitive. The new MacBook Pro need to have 128/256GB SSD to compete with MacBook Air. Optical drive must go to save some weight.
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Or the fact that the air is way cheaper and thinner ever cross your mind to why it doesn't have those two features?
 
I hope Apple does keep the optical drive, i think many people are still using it. I for one am using it a lot. Besides, they do provide the Air for people who want a computer without a drive.
 
dnenciu said:
The diff is that they can make sure in the mba that your only drive is an ssd but in the regular laptops it would make sense from a uniformity point of view to provide all with a cheap 8-16gb flash and regular plater drives probably at 750 or 1tb that way they can bull... the consumers with the amazing boot speed and large storage they have, and for the average joe it will be true.
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Yes because average joes will fully understand the nuances of having two drives in their system , manually having to set up their applications to use the different drive which for some applications (like Adobe CSx) is NOT possible because it must be installed on the same drive.

OS X isn't ready to natively handle separate OS and Data drives in its current rendition. In 10.6.6, the home folder is still stored on the primary drive. Having said drive only comprise 8 or so gigs will cause problems.

8 Gigs won't even fit the default installation which includes print drivers.

Sorry folks.
 
deconstruct60 said:
A cache can be implemented just like Apple's software RAID is implemented now (built into disk utility). The apps and upper levels of the OS are presented a virtual device. The physical devices are still hooked to the machine via SATA.

It would work similar to RAID 1 only the SSD wouldn't copy everything. It would just mirror a subset of the data that was often used or associated with sleep/hibernation. Essentially get a virtual hybrid drive that just isn't contained inside of one metal container.
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Well yes they could do that... but doesn't that add a lot of overhead?
I mean don't the Objects have to altered/archived to be stored on a drive and the system looses track of them so when they come out of drive storage it then needs to do more work getting them active again. Before you even add the overhead of SATA bus and the software raid.

I just think if you can give the system somewhere it can park an object in it's native form, (ie some form of system addressable flash memory) and not have to worry about it being lost due to a crash or power issue so that the system can get on with other stuff. Data writing to the reasonable capacity hard drive could be handled background without fear of data lose. They could even use garbage collection to handle clean up so any improvements to to GC in the future also help the flash drive.

Make me wonder if the SSD in the upper ends Pro's will be PCI based instead of SATA, like the ones made by one of the Woz's companies make?

Either or is still going to be a big improvement.
 
Question: if I opt for whatever the regular configuration will be, presumably small SSD + large HDD, is it possible to replace the HDD with an SSD at some later point? Or would I have to get the customised SSD-option from the get go?
 
edifyingGerbil said:
The shift keys on either side are HUGE, also it looks as though the trackpad has a slim button on the bottom edge, and it doesn't say macbook pro anywhere...

Still, it's very thin and the trackpad is large so who knows?
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Just compared it to the image I posted earlier with the "current" vs "theoretical" trackpad size, and I am sorry to say it but the trackpad is not larger at all in that photo.

I suspect that it is a picture of the current gen, and either the lighting or something else (maybe editing) is hiding the light/IR port.
 
As with many rumors, they stand or fall with credibility. Credibility for a separate flash drive for OSX is very low, as this is not how OSX works. As mentioned before the home folder is on the same drive as the system, so an8 or even 16gb partition for OSX is simply not possible.

Only thing that might be is that Apple revived Intel's Turbo Memory feature to cache and speed up some tasks, but why would they do that when everybody else has abandoned this already. I say BS on this rumor.

More likely we'll see small ssd's like the Air being introduced, making for a nice price increase at the same time :eek:. At the same time the chassis is large enough to include a separate normal HD for more storage.
 
ts1973 said:
As with many rumors, they stand or fall with credibility. Credibility for a separate flash drive for OSX is very low, as this is not how OSX works. As mentioned before the home folder is on the same drive as the system, so an8 or even 16gb partition for OSX is simply not possible.
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That's not how Unix-based systems work. You can quite easily have nested folders on separate drives - most Linux distributions are set up to easily allow this. It's Windows and DOS-based systems which are stuck in their C:\'s and D:\'s.
 
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