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As much as I hate the charging port on the bottom, what I dislike most about the mouse is how un-ergonomic it is. I can't believe that this design is the best they could do for over a decade. If all they do is change the charging port on the bottom to USB-C I will not at all be surprised. They can't even come up with a backlit keyboard for some reason.

Yes. Not sure why this always flys under the radar. Especially for the cost of an Apple keyboard, a backlit feature should be a given in 2023.
 
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The photo shows what is perhaps the dumbest design ever for a rechargeable mouse. You can't use the mouse while it is recharging. Every other company but Apple got this right and makes a mouse that works as a corded mouse or cordless. Apple got this right with their keyboards and trackpads. Why not with the mouse?

Let's hope this is fixed.
 
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The photo shows what is perhaps the dumbest design ever for a rechargeable mouse. You can't use the mouse while it is recharging. Every other company but Apple got this right and makes a mouse that works as a corded mouse or cordless. Apple got this right with their keyboards and trackpads. Why not with the mouse?

Let's hope this is fixed.
Doesn't even matter, it's just plain bad as a mouse compared to other 2023 mice.
 
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I don't understand how anyone could conceivably defend Apple in this. I love Apple products but they're not perfect and putting the charging port underneath instead of at the front of the mouse was an idiotic decision that only the most tunnel visioned Apple fan could defend. The fact that you're mocking people and suggesting they have 'bad time management' because you think they are idiots at complaining on not being able to use the mouse while charging is just utterly ridiculous. It's an awful design and should never have been released.
Which bit of the front casing would you sacrifice for the charging port?
 
Yes. Not sure why this always flys under the radar. Especially for the cost of an Apple keyboard, a backlit feature should be a given in 2023.

It should've been a given in 2011. All I can assume is that the backlight drains the battery to an extent that they consider unacceptable. So then--increase the thickness of the keyboard and give us a bigger battery? That seems to work for the iPhone.
 
Yes. Not sure why this always flys under the radar. Especially for the cost of an Apple keyboard, a backlit feature should be a given in 2023.
Meh, not really needed if you are actually working and not making a TikTok "clean desktop setups" videos. Battery life is more important. Desk lamp (and overall working in proper lighting conditions) is healthier for the eyes.
 
Hopefully they can make the keyboard thinner, even if it means removing some of the keys. Thinness is what matters most on a desktop keyboard.

People want thinner!
 
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1) heavy compared to modern mice
2) doesn't slide well compared to modern mice
3) godawful low polling rate
4) close to zero ergonomics
5) charging port on the bottom side (doesn't even matter actually compared to the rest, break from work is never bad)

6) 40ms click latency
7) Bluetooth-only
8) No multi-device connectivity
Love how everyone is focused on the minor port issue despite the real issue is it's just an awful mouse.
 
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Just put that @#@&*%*$ charging port on the side bottom so you can actually use the mouse while charging.

You think?

And the most ergonomic mouse ever made was the original macally IceMini. Copy THAT shape.
 
I always thought the charging port was put below so you couldn't use it as a corded mouse - Apple wanted to put the "wireless" mouse - but they put the charging port in a usable place on the keyboard and trackpads?!

What gives?
 
Hopefully they can make the keyboard thinner, even if it means removing some of the keys. Thinness is what matters most on a desktop keyboard.

People want thinner!
Actually, for your hands, thinner = better. That's the reason mechanical keyboards crowd is using wrist support all the time.
 
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It takes 90 seconds to get a charge for a full day. You get battery warnings for weeks. If you ignore them and somehow run out of battery, stand up, plug in, go get a glass of water and come back and you're set for the day. Plug it in once when you go to sleep and it'll be charged for 1-2 months. This is a complete non-issue and seems to have originated as clickbait for tech sites.

That said, the next mouse shouldn't have any port at all if it's just for charging. Qi and now Qi 2.0 based on MagSafe are fast becoming a charging standard that is ideal for small devices like this. A wireless charging mat could enable the mouse to sip bits of charge over the day or fully charge when on the mat in sleep mode (not in use) over an hour or two. Or throw it on a MagSafe dock when not in use. Lot's of potential.
 
Still using my AA battery MM and trackpad from 2013 on my Mac Studio.

Funny you should say that. Same here.

My wife prefers a mouse, so that one is there for her. When the batteries get low, the notification comes up and it takes about 30 seconds to replace the discharged batteries with freshly charged ones. The ones that came out go into the charger. Hardly a big deal.

I like the trackpad myself. It works great. Same batteries and charger.

Yesterday we spent about an hour at the local Apple Store while my wife was trading in her iPhone for a new one. So, I got to try every product in the place. Six times over. The newer trackpad is ok, but I prefer the larger "travel" of the older design. So, I'm glad we have a couple of the older designs fresh in a box somewhere.

OT, some...

I also got to watch the employees interact with each other and the customers. Every one was unfailingly polite and courteous in every way. The fellow at the door would not even allow me to hold it open for my wife. They all would smile, but otherwise not much emotion. Laugh? Not once. When we were done, we went down a couple doors to LL Bean. The people there were just as polite, but they were animated and laughed a lot. It was way more fun at that store.

Also, Apple's internal systems sure suck. They couldn't find the sales slip on their system for the new iPhone no matter what. It was the system, not the people. My wife had to find it on her email account for them. Stuff that should've taken a couple minutes took a quarter of an hour because the attempts kept on failing. The trade-in app that they used kept telling the very nice Genius lady that the iPhone 13 was worth about $9. This phone was in as good shape as the new 15's on display. Eventually, after much fiddling and many attempts, the woman got the system to give a trade-in closer to $600. The odd part is that nobody in the store had the ability to override the lame software app based on their own visual inspection of the iPhone. Not even the manager.

Apple seemingly has lost their ability to improve products much, except for manufacturing efficiencies. I get that after more than a decade that it's really hard to improve these products, but Apple is so insular now that they don't seem to even consider what would make users' lives better. That would be a major improvement. They just don't seem to understand how real customers might want to use their products. Customers are just cows to milk now, I guess.
 
I think the bottom port is a stupid decision, but let's be honest. Most people who really care about having a mouse aren't using one of these anyway. I have one of the older (replaceable battery) ones that I got for free. It's nice to keep in the bag because it's small (thin) - but that's exactly what makes it horrible to work with for any period of time.

If I'm doing anything that really requires more mouse-centric control, I'm using my vertical mouse so that my hand won't hate me - but that's a clumsy beast to throw in the bag.
 
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Love how everyone is focused on the minor port issue despite the real issue is it's just an awful mouse.
fr the MM is just an awful mouse in general and the charging port location is like item number 100 on that list.
 
Almost everyone I know who uses an iMac for professional purposes does not use a Magic Mouse. They use a third party mouse and often a third party keyboard. But if you use a third party mouse you miss out on the gestures, which is the mouse's best feature. I just can't believe they can't come up with a more ergonomic design. The Magic Mouse is so shallow I'd often end up lifting it up off the mouse pad while using it. And frankly, the scrolling gesture is far inferior to that of the trackpad. It just seems like there's room for innovation here. They haven't abandoned their desktops, so why leave the peripherals unchanged for so many years?
 
And the change will most likely be only that, with absolutely no improvements to form or functionalities...
Yeah I’m hoping for a slightly more ergonomic design with a charging port repositioning.

I have no idea how this mouse design has lasted so long without more complaints of its strain inducing design.
 
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