New Microsoft Ad Campaign Targets Mac Prices

[janstett]

Poor people shouldn't be able to afford Apple computers. They don't understand, nor can they appreciate, cool things like thin hardware and hip operating systems. Peecees and Winblows is for them. They smell too.

Buy a lot of Bose? It's expensive so it must be good, right?

The good things are almost always expensive. But expensive things aren't always good. I can respect a preference based on some rational thought and comparison. But being a mere "badge whore" gets zero respect from me.

For example, Bose makes tiny, cheap paper speakers that can't reproduce big sound and worse their systems are riddled with DSP to make up for the poor speakers that make the sound muddy and completely lacking outside the midrange. There are much, much better sounding systems for half the price. But I bet someone like you buys the marketing BS hook, line, and sinker.

 

[VenusianSky]

I think the purpose of these ads are to start heated arguments on various tech websites that exceed 3000 (or close) posts in two days

 

[polaris20]

Have you run a GUI-enabled MODERN linux on a sub-$300 POS? Let me tell you, it's even more slower than Windows and OS X combined. Both KDE, GNome, Icebox, and other window managers are horribly slow.

What distro are you using? Ubuntu 8.10 runs very well with GNOME on a 933Mhz PIII with 512MB of RAM.

Or is that too modern for you?

The Dell 700m in my sig only has 1GB of RAM, and is a Dothan era Pentium M (precursor to the Core Solo and Duo from 2005) and it runs 8.10 faster than XP.

Suse and Centos 5.2 are a little slower, but not by much. Debian runs quite well too (not surprising, since it's what Ubuntu is based on) and even Sun OpenSolaris runs great. All on this little Dell POS.

 

[janstett]

Well put! Well put!

Thank you.

I forgot to mention how many of those pretentious people are clinging to their rickety old G4 Powerbooks...

 

[Anuba]

This sort of threads always remind me over and over again that Apple is really so incredibly annoying to many MS users for some deeply psychological reason.

The deeply psychological factor at play, IMO, is the borderline pathological aversion that 99% of the population has against being suckered. You can see it in so many different contexts, for example when there are leaked product shots of future Apple products. I've lost count of the times when these leaked images have turned out to be the real thing, not some photoshopped hoax, yet people are always lining up like mad to join the "FAKE!!!!" yellers' bandwagon because they feel much safer there than being one of those who are out in the open and acknowledging the possibility that the image is the real thing.

The same deeply rooted aversion against being suckered often rears its ugly head in stores; if customers have even the slightest inkling that they got the short end of the stick (a feeling that is often 100% unjustified) they get rabidly furious and want everybody involved not merely fired, but lynched, or they're gonna go on a soapbox and trash talk the company forever. Being a customer can really bring out the ugly side in people, in ways that not even road rage can match.

Apple triggers that very same reaction in some people, their sucker alert meter goes up to 11 the second they see the pricetags. It would never happen when they see a Rolls-Royce pricetag or an Armani pricetag, those products are merely expensive for reasons that feel relatively valid. But Apple sells Chinese-built computers with generic PC components, often even second-rate ones, yet pretend like they're selling 24K gold, that's why they can't fly under the radar like real premium brands can. As long as people remain people and Apple remain Apple, people's built-in fraud alert alarms will keep going off like car alarms in a hailstorm.

 

[polaris20]

I've lost count of the times when these leaked images have turned out to be the real thing, not some photoshopped hoax, yet people are always lining up like mad to join the "FAKE!!!!" yellers' bandwagon because they feel much safer there than being one of those who are out in the open and acknowledging the possibility that the image is the real thing.

It's true. This board in particular has the highest population of forensic Photoshop experts i've ever seen.

 

[whitefang]

What distro are you using? Ubuntu 8.10 runs very well with GNOME on a 933Mhz PIII with 512MB of RAM.

Or is that too modern for you?

The Dell 700m in my sig only has 1GB of RAM, and is a Dothan era Pentium M (precursor to the Core Solo and Duo from 2005) and it runs 8.10 faster than XP.

Suse and Centos 5.2 are a little slower, but not by much. Debian runs quite well too (not surprising, since it's what Ubuntu is based on) and even Sun OpenSolaris runs great. All on this little Dell POS.

Yes, you can run Linux, congratulations BUT can you do anything useful? Can you run the latest version of OpenOffice fine on 1gig?

 

[zeromeus]

I'm looking for MORE ads like this....

In the hope that Apple would drop their prices accordingly. I mean... look at ANY electronic out there. The digital camera, for example: prices of each item drops over time as consumers wait out the initial launch and can actually afford to buy it.

Apple, on the other hand, keep their prices the same all the way until they come out with a new model... every few years. I wouldn't want to buy an old technology for the same price as when it was new.

Apple need to learn from the rest of the electronic industry.

 

[MH01]

It's true. This board in particular has the highest population of forensic Photoshop experts i've ever seen.

And video experts.... Even the video of the new mac mini was pulled apart as a fake. 5 USB was crazy thinking !!!

 

[whitefang]

In the hope that Apple would drop their prices accordingly. I mean... look at ANY electronic out there. The digital camera, for example: prices of each item drops over time as consumers wait out the initial launch and can actually afford to buy it.

Apple, on the other hand, keep their prices the same all the way until they come out with a new model... every few years. I wouldn't want to buy an old technology for the same price as when it was new.

Apple need to learn from the rest of the electronic industry.

Not really. Apple's pricing model is just right but their strategy sucks (upgrade to the next line to get a certain feature). Apple can set their own pricing cause Apple is it's own competitor.

 

[MH01]

Not really. Apple's pricing model is just right but their strategy sucks (upgrade to the next line to get a certain feature). Apple can set their own pricing cause Apple is it's own competitor.

Agree.

Moving from a MB to MBP used to get you heaps of features. These days I struggle to understand how they can call it a Pro machine. The 2.4 MB is too dame close to the base MBP, firewire being the main feature your missing out on.

 

[mrshyt]

Macs are great - and you get what you pay for. I have never been happier with a computer in my life than my white MB. It still runs just a smoothly as it did when I bought it 2 years ago. Maybe I was not the safest/cleanest PC user a few years ago, but I know that after 2 years, any Windows PC's that I'd had were already showing signs of age and seriously slowing down. Cleaning them and doing general maintenance took up a lot of time - this is something i barely have to do with my Mac.

This ad is complete crap. I can't stand these ads where they so blatantly are using an actor and trying to pass them off as normal people. Geez, you can't get a discount/cheap version of absolutely everything, but you ALWAYS get what you pay for. And after 2 years of using my MB, I have to say that I'm delighted with the product that I paid for. I am so glad I saw the light and made the switch to Mac when I did. I can't even forsee myself updgrading my MB in the near future, because it does everything that I need so well!! Maybe the graphics hardware is crap, but I'm not too fussed, I can live with it really...

You can see that MS are getting desperate, as they directly aim towards Mac in this ad. I don't believe that Apple ever once made a direct reference to MS / Windows in their ads...

 

[whitefang]

You can see that MS are getting desperate, as they directly aim towards Mac in this ad. I don't believe that Apple ever once made a direct reference to MS / Windows in their ads...

Every Apple commercial I saw, they outright bash Vista BY NAME. You are biased.

 

[NT1440]

You can see that MS are getting desperate, as they directly aim towards Mac in this ad. I don't believe that Apple ever once made a direct reference to MS / Windows in their ads...

Please tell me your joking.....

And to the guy above me, yes theyve ridden the vista gravy train for a long time, but as of late they seem to be moving away from that. Not EVERY mac commercial is based on MS being bad.

 

[OllyW]

You can see that MS are getting desperate, as they directly aim towards Mac in this ad. I don't believe that Apple ever once made a direct reference to MS / Windows in their ads...

Educate yourself.

 

[Anuba]

Macs are great - and you get what you pay for. I have never been happier with a computer in my life than my white MB. It still runs just a smoothly as it did when I bought it 2 years ago

Why wouldn't it? I'm sorry but I keep hearing these testemonies along the lines of "it still runs after 2 years", is the bar really that low? Why wouldn't a Mac or a PC be just as new after 2 years if you've taken care of it well? It's not like it's a bicycle that rusts, you've got a fan and a hard disk and the rest of the parts aren't mechanical.

Last time I checked the plastic MBs aren't all that resistant to wear. A friend of mine has the black one and all the keys have lost that silky, matte coating so even when it's squeaky clean it looks like it's covered in grease.

I don't believe that Apple ever once made a direct reference to MS / Windows in their ads...

Oh please. They've been doing exactly that for nearly 10 years. MS only started fighting back last fall...

 

[3282868]

Why wouldn't it? I'm sorry but I keep hearing these testemonies along the lines of "it still runs after 2 years", is the bar really that low? Why wouldn't a Mac or a PC be just as new after 2 years if you've taken care of it well? It's not like it's a bicycle that rusts, you've got a fan and a hard disk and the rest of the parts aren't mechanical.

Last time I checked the plastic MBs aren't all that resistant to wear. A friend of mine has the black one and all the keys have lost that silky, matte coating so even when it's squeaky clean it looks like it's covered in grease.


Oh please. They've been doing exactly that for nearly 10 years. MS only started fighting back last fall...

Seriously, what is wrong with you? Great, you like Windows, good for you. There are people that like OS X, and as this is an Apple rumors site, more people like OS X here, go figure. You are on this thread every minute of every day vehemently posting and attacking people that don't agree with you. It is really insane.

 

[NT1440]

Why wouldn't it? I'm sorry but I keep hearing these testemonies along the lines of "it still runs after 2 years", is the bar really that low? Why wouldn't a Mac or a PC be just as new after 2 years if you've taken care of it well? It's not like it's a bicycle that rusts, you've got a fan and a hard disk and the rest of the parts aren't mechanical.

Last time I checked the plastic MBs aren't all that resistant to wear. A friend of mine has the black one and all the keys have lost that silky, matte coating so even when it's squeaky clean it looks like it's covered in grease.


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To the underlined, thats the nature of black keys on almost every keyboard available. This toshiba im on right now isnt even a year old and it already looks like I dumped some KFC on it.

As for the 2 years remark, I'm not sure if you took that post and brought it forward, but usually on here when I see testimonials of macs lasting the time period is usually around 5 years. Have you really been seeing a ton of 2 year ones or did u just use that post a
springboard?

Edit: To bedifferent: His posting methods are of no concern to you. He doesn't attack that much, merely provides an alternative view so that these forums arent one massive echo chamber. Please don't needlessly harass others. Why didnt you do it to me instead? I havent even been here a full year yet and I think im going to hit 4000 posts today, is it because he's "anti-apple" and I tend to be "pro-apple? Step off and leave if you have a problem with regulars being regulars.

 

[whitefang]

Seriously, what is wrong with you? You are on this thread every minute of every day posting and attacking people that don't agree with you. It is really insane.

Any user that points out Apple's mistakes is automatically declared a MS fanboy. The apple crowd is full of itself. I think Janstett put it correctly.

 

[andy721]

Windows STOP w/ADs

Wow how unoriginal, they paid her to get the laptop on top of the commercial seriously stop with the ads your embarrassing yourselves.

 

[3282868]

Any user that points out Apple's mistakes is automatically declared a MS fanboy. The apple crowd is full of itself. I think Janstett put it correctly.

You're generalizing. First, it has been individuals who have been pointing out Apple's "mistakes" in their pricing (and I have been one of them pages ago in admitting that Apple needs to develop entry level portables and a mid-tower), while continuously provoking Apple supporters by calling them "fanboys" and mindless "zealots" - which serves no purpose other than to instigate arguments, not discussions. Not all Apple users are "fanboys" just as not all Windows people are Windows fanboys. The difference is, this is an Apple based site. Discourse is more than welcome, it is essential in fact. I just do not get people that post every second on every page for 118+ pages criticizing Apple on an Apple site, and then turn around and call people they disagree with "fanboys". Yes, there are people that like Apple, just as there are that like Windows, I do not care either way. This baiting and arguing is really old.

 

[-hh]

The deeply psychological factor at play, IMO, is the borderline pathological aversion that 99% of the population has against being suckered....
The same deeply rooted aversion against being suckered often rears its ugly head in stores; if customers have even the slightest inkling that they got the short end of the stick (a feeling that is often 100% unjustified) they get rabidly furious and want everybody involved not merely fired, but lynched, or they're gonna go on a soapbox and trash talk the company forever. Being a customer can really bring out the ugly side in people, in ways that not even road rage can match.

Reminds me of this guy who was ranting about how his PC service contract didn't get activated, didn't include them coming to his house on silver rollerskates ... he was going to have to be the drama queen and haul it on a train all by himself because ... well, we never could figure that out. It either was because he couldn't find a box to mail it, or remember where he parked his made-in-China (or was it South Africa?) BMW.

Apple triggers that very same reaction in some people, their sucker alert meter goes up to 11 the second they see the pricetags.

And there's bound to be one who shows up shortly in this thread....

But Apple sells Chinese-built computers with generic PC components, often even second-rate ones, yet pretend like they're selling 24K gold..

Gosh, that was quick!


-hh

 

[whitefang]

You're generalizing. Not all Apple users are "fanboys" just as not all Windows people are Windows fanboys. The difference is, this is an Apple based site. Discourse is more than welcome, it is essential in fact. I just do not get people that post every second on every page for 118+ pages criticizing Apple on an Apple site, and then turn around and call people they disagree with "fanboys". Yes, there are people that like Apple, just as there are that like Windows, I do not care either way. This baiting and arguing is really old.

Well the thing is you get so many Apple people posting biased facts about Vista and Windows in general that have no validity and they are generally clueless about anything technical. Just like the post above that said Apple doesn't do any Windows bashing but Microsoft does.

 

[NT1440]

Well the thing is you get so many Apple people posting biased facts about Vista and Windows in general that have no validity and they are generally clueless about anything technical. Just like the post above that said Apple doesn't do any Windows bashing but Microsoft does.

Thus is the nature of any populace, there will ALWAYS be some dull bulbs thrown in the mix.

 

[dejo]

Thus is the nature of any populace, there will ALWAYS be some dull bulbs thrown in the mix.

Speaking of which: