Einstein believed insanity was defined as "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Certain individuals have been posting over and over again with the same comments and arguments attempting to convince individuals who do not agree with them that they are right, expecting different results with each comment. This to me seems a bit insane.
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Einstein believed insanity was defined as "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Certain individuals have been posting over and over again with the same comments and arguments attempting to convince individuals who do not agree with them that they are right, expecting different results with each comment. This to me seems a bit insane.
We run CFD modeling applications such as Fluent and Ansys on them, along with virtualization platforms on the stronger systems, and they run faster than they do on Windows.
We run Apache, MySQL, and several other server apps on Linux across several machines, both virtual and real.
As for OpenOffice on the little Dell? The most recent version, absolutely. It also runs full screen video without a problem, plays DVD's, runs VMWare Workstation, and pretty much any other standard desktop computing stuff.
You might want to know what you're talking about before you go and knock it.
You were already warned once by the mods for going over the top with insults and getting personal. Since then you have continued down the exact same path, only substituting names with the phrase "certain individuals". Feeling brave are we?
Yes, exactly. Where did I say I belong to the 1% who enjoy being suckered?hh said:
Never happened, nice try. In fact, it was your comment that was edited:
Step awaaaay from the caffeine. If you read my comments way back when I posted about this days ago (and others' as well as it clearly states just the opposite of your insinuations), I have agreed that the hardware itself is essentially the same as standard Windows based system. However no one has taken into account the industrial design and ergonomics of Apple products through lead Industrial Designer Jonathan Ive. Ive has helped increase Apple's market and popularity through such award winning designs as the iPod and iMac that are aesthetically pleasing to many as well as assisting in ease of use and operation, something many consumers are willing to pay a premium for as evidenced by Apple's steadily increasing market share.
In fact, I agreed with Demi-Goddess BlueVelvet regarding the opinion that Apple should produce entry level machines to compete in the portable market as well as a mid-tower for the desktop market. I use WIndows Vista, mainly on my Mac Pro system, as I work in IT and have built systems for many. As I stated a long time ago I believe Vista and recent Windows OS's are fine and run well, when installed and used properly. I never made any statement regarding my preference, and I especially have made no statements expressing an extreme like or dislike for either. There was really no reason to continue this discussion as it seems to have involved unnecessarily into personal attacks, which was my statement. However, 310 posts out of 2955, most of which are simply arguments that disparage others for not agreeing with their view is over the top.
I've got better things to do, this topic has been beaten to death and then some.
I think we could be friends.
You, on the other hand, have no idea what you are talking about. Anuba not once mentioned an OS in that entire post, just hardware. He has said several times over and over and over again (people like you just dont GET IT i suppose) that he very much enjoys OS X and all of its goodness. The problem here is that the hardware which osx is 'required' to run on (osx86 ftw) is no different than any other hardware on the market, it just has Apple's slick design and TPM chip in it. Thats it. Thats the magic that makes macs "soooooo much better than POS peecees that suxxorsz cuz they not macz!!!!"
How do you not get this?
Apple's motherboards are made by Foxconn. Guess what guys? Foxconn also makes the motherboards for Asus, Abit, Gigabyte, HP, Dell and they just put their sticker on it.
What a laugh! a) MS are selling hardware, so they don't have to mention software, b) $700 pc will last 2 years max, i have a 5 year old ibook as well as a 17" macbookpro of 3 years, no slowing down, no defrag ........
So ln the long term macs are cheaper, let alone all the anti virus costs. That girl is obviosly not studying economics.
They all see the light, eventually. Get it right first time and save huge amounts. Come on MS such a lame catch.
Make software you can be proud of that's all you need to do.
So ln the long term macs are cheaper, let alone all the anti virus costs. That girl is obviosly not studying economics.
They all see the light, eventually. Get it right first time and save huge amounts. Come on MS such a lame catch.
Make software you can be proud of that's all you need to do.
Yes, I don't mince words which is why I tolerate a fair level of harsh language back. But these bucketloads of insinuations about mental health problems you've been spewing for the last couple of days now is are simply over the line, even in rude company. Why not simply confine yourself to "******" or any popular variation of traditional insults?
2 years, 5 years, the point was that I've seen a number of posts about Macs being more durable because they still run after X years and I was curious as to what's remarkable about it. You usually buy a 3-year warranty for computers and if it was actually true that PCs or Macs were dropping like flies after 1-2 years on a wide scale, those warranties would cost a fortune but they don't. I've owned roughly 20 computers over the years (Commodore, Atari, Apple, Dell, Packard Bell, cheap no-name PCs) and I've had to do warranty repairs twice, both times motherboards with faulty power management which I'm guessing has to do with possible power surges in this apartment.
I don't know about the validity of "You usually buy a 3 year warranty".....
The 5 year mark is what most seem as a great measure of endurance, not 2 years. I still haven't had a laptop last 5 years, but it seems a great number of mac users have (i dont have one yet). This toshiba im on right now is already starting to get some funky problems and its not even a year old (plastic cracking, fans CONSTANTLY revving up fully when the computer is just sitting there doing nothing, etc etc).
The 5 year mark is what most seem as a great measure of endurance, not 2 years. I still haven't had a laptop last 5 years, but it seems a great number of mac users have (i dont have one yet). This toshiba im on right now is already starting to get some funky problems and its not even a year old (plastic cracking, fans CONSTANTLY revving up fully when the computer is just sitting there doing nothing, etc etc).
He says he heard testimonials from people who own macs saying that macs last a long time....this is put in a way that falsely discredits PCs. He will never say he heard testimonials from people who own PCs saying that PCs last a long time.
His source is biased, therefore, his response is biased.
His source is biased, therefore, his response is biased.
Sources are mixed my friend, as Ive just said, ive never had a laptop last 5 years before (i do have a dell thats reaching that age, but its condition is appalling).
Edit:solaris, who is getting worked up here? If any hostility is around it may be time for that user to take a minute to cool down because its nothing to get worked up about.
My friends Sony Viao from 2002 just died 2 months ago. Due to this, all Windows based laptops are durable according to your logic.
Yeah you personally never have BUT you use third-party biased one-way sources to credit macs over pcs. Nice try.
No, no its not. My logic is based on more than just one test. It would be illogical to think that one instance in either way can make up a trend.
Edit: Learn how to edit whitefang, we tend to get in trouble here for double posting. Can I ask where your 100% unbiased sources are? I try to throw in as much real world data as I can when coming to my conclusions as I hope I have shown in my posts.
Whats with the snarkyness too? "Nice try" ? I'm stating my opinion and experiences, have I EVER gone "ZOMG DEM PC's are TEh Suxxor!!!111" ? I prefer macs, thats it, many prefer PC's and they are fully in right. If you're looking for some kind of pissing match out of me your not going to find it.
So have you put together a statistical analysis that factually states that Macs last longer than PCs or are you just basing it on a bunch of Macs lasting more than a bunch of PCs?
EDIT: You call comparing a "bunch of macs and pcs" real world data? hahahahahaha.
For all PC haters out there.... don't tread on what you don't have experience with...
Those of you who say PCs only last at most a year or two... read on...
I bought a Dell 12" notebook back in the days... 5 years ago... and as of today, it still works just as well as it did the first day I got it. Granted I take really good care of my electronics... however, that laptop had actually been transferred to two other users who don't necessarily take as good care of it as I did. Still it lives on and thriving. In fact, both users told me that laptop worked a lot faster than they expected being 5 years old. So your statement about PCs lasting only 2 years is totally false.
In fact, I have a 4 year old Toshiba, a 5 year old Motion Computing Tablet PC and they both still work very well. So if you've been a mac user all your life without any REAL experience with a PC, please don't try to put down something you don't even know about.
I actually have an iMac 20" that I've been using alongside my PC in the last 4 months. I read reviews and all that stuff, too. Nothing's wrong with my iMac YET, but I've read reviews where the display is all messed up. In all 15 years of using a PC... I've never had that problem. Of course, I build my own PCs, so of course I don't have problems. But I've built a lot of PCs for myself, family, and friends, so I can say... None of those PCs ever give anyone I know a problem...
To be fair, no one I know has a problem with their Mac either... but their Macs are new to them, so there really is nothing to compare.
Those of you who say PCs only last at most a year or two... read on...
I bought a Dell 12" notebook back in the days... 5 years ago... and as of today, it still works just as well as it did the first day I got it. Granted I take really good care of my electronics... however, that laptop had actually been transferred to two other users who don't necessarily take as good care of it as I did. Still it lives on and thriving. In fact, both users told me that laptop worked a lot faster than they expected being 5 years old. So your statement about PCs lasting only 2 years is totally false.
In fact, I have a 4 year old Toshiba, a 5 year old Motion Computing Tablet PC and they both still work very well. So if you've been a mac user all your life without any REAL experience with a PC, please don't try to put down something you don't even know about.
I actually have an iMac 20" that I've been using alongside my PC in the last 4 months. I read reviews and all that stuff, too. Nothing's wrong with my iMac YET, but I've read reviews where the display is all messed up. In all 15 years of using a PC... I've never had that problem. Of course, I build my own PCs, so of course I don't have problems. But I've built a lot of PCs for myself, family, and friends, so I can say... None of those PCs ever give anyone I know a problem...
To be fair, no one I know has a problem with their Mac either... but their Macs are new to them, so there really is nothing to compare.
Yeah, well I've got 5 laptops right now sitting in a storage room all dead, all 3-4 years old.
My PowerBook is way older, and still going. Point is, we could be here all day with everyone's personal anecdotes on both sides of the fence.
Both can last long; I doubt the OS running on it has anything to do with it.
Sure, nobody except a couple hundred people on this thread including yours truly. Ive is a genius and I've always maintained that those designs alone are worth the premium to a point. And you can get his designs not just by buying Macs, but by getting an iPod which IMO are attractively priced (the iPhone itself isn't bad either, it's the AT&T plans that drive people bonkers).
I also find that a lot of Apple's software is quite competitively priced; iWork is a bargain and Logic Studio 8 is not merely a bargain, it's a full-scale assault on the likes of Steinberg, Ableton, MOTU and Cakewalk; Apple undercut the competitors so mercilessly with the new pricing on Logic that it's clear they're out to hurt them.
The everlasting discussion about prices is only about the Macs themselves.
LAWL.
Has anyone EVER seen a VW driver without an apple logo sticker on the back??????? They go hand in hand..and im pretty sure they are the same company.
She is totally a mac user.
But FTR, mac prices are pretty ridiculous. I wouldn't have one if it wasn't for M$ (cashback)....ironic...
Has anyone EVER seen a VW driver without an apple logo sticker on the back??????? They go hand in hand..and im pretty sure they are the same company
.She is totally a mac user.
But FTR, mac prices are pretty ridiculous. I wouldn't have one if it wasn't for M$ (cashback)....ironic...
You want a true industrial design? How about the industry standard Lenovo ThinkPads? It has a strong alumnium body that you can hold at ANY END POINT WITHOUT BENDING IT. Try doing that with a macbook, you can't.
Also, it has a spill-proof design so if you spill water on your keyboard, it can be drained without affecting the laptop itself. Try spilling water on your macbook.
And guess what? Not only does it weigh less than the macbooks, its also cheaper.
Have you picked up the new unibodies? Even the tech blogs are saying they feel stiffer and more solid than thinkpads...
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