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whitefang said:
I've worked with Java, and other technologies. My primary focus is .NET, and from experience, there is no other technology (for web apps and windows platform) better than .NET at the moment.

I'm going to stop arguing, since it's pointless to argue with non-technical people who have no idea what they are talking about.
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Convenient how you choose to ignore everything I've said that I've done, and then proceed to call me non-technical. Then of course you follow it up with your supposed credentials. Typical troll response.

I'm so non-technical, but at least I bring the dongle to a presentation so I don't have to blame my computer!

Oh and what other programming technologies are you adept in? PHP? Perl? Python? Ruby on Rails? How about web servers? How many Apache server set ups have you done?

Sounds like you've only worked in a total MS shop, which really doesn't lend you any credibility as a tech authority.
 
That add with the girl and her wanting a 17'' laptop upsets me. The comparison between the HP pavilion and the 17'' macbook pro is completely different. The MBP will dominate it in any performance testing, I'm sure.
 
polaris20 said:
Convenient how you choose to ignore everything I've said that I've done, and then proceed to call me non-technical. Then of course you follow it up with your supposed credentials. Typical troll response.

I'm so non-technical, but at least I bring the dongle to a presentation so I don't have to blame my computer!
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Maybe if my computer didn't have a proprietary connector, I wouldn't have to use one. With all the last minute details, I don't have time to worry about a displayport cable.

Typical Apple fanboy.
 
whitefang said:
Maybe if my computer didn't have a proprietary connector, I wouldn't have to use one. With all the last minute details, I don't have time to worry about a displayport cable.

Typical Apple fanboy.
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It's not a proprietary connector.

From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_DisplayPort

On January 13, 2009, VESA announced that Mini DisplayPort would be included in the upcoming DisplayPort 1.2 specification.[7][8]
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Wrong again, friend.

And yes, I'm an Apple fanboy, who uses Windows, Linux, and OS X in addition to multiple virtualization platforms. :rolleyes:
 
BTW, nVidia's entire line of Quadro cards are now DisplayPort only (albeit full size). No DVI anymore.
 
polaris20 said:
BTW, nVidia's entire line of Quadro cards are now DisplayPort only (albeit full size). No DVI anymore.
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Nvidia doesn't make any graphics cards, so I don't see how that can be.

Dell still has DVI models...

1.5GB NVIDIA® Quadro® FX 4800, DUAL MON, 2DP & 1DVI [add $1,419]
1.0GB ATI FirePro™ V8700, DUAL MON, 2 DP & 1 DVI [add $1,380]
1.0GB NVIDIA® Quadro® FX 3800, DUAL MON, 2 DP & 1 DVI [add $900]
768MB NVIDIA® Quadro® FX 1800, DUAL MON, 2 DP & 1 DVI [add $490]
512MB ATI FirePro™ V5700, DUAL MON, 2 DP & 1 DVI [add $490]
512MB NVIDIA® Quadro® FX 580, DUAL MON, 2 DP & 1 DVI [add $120]
256MB ATI FirePro™ V3750, DUAL MON, 2 DP & 1 DVI [add $100]
256MB NVIDIA® Quadro® NVS 295, DUAL MON, 2 DP [Included in Price]
Dual 768MB NVIDIA® Quadro® FX 1800, QUAD MON, 4DP & 2DVI [add $1,080]
Dual 512MB ATI FirePro™ V5700, QUAD MON, 4DP & 2DVI [add $1,080]
Dual 512MB NVIDIA® Quadro® FX 580, QUAD MON, 4DP & 2DVI [add $340]
Dual 256MB ATI FirePro™ V3750, QUAD MON, 4DP & 2DVI [add $300]
Dual 256MB NVIDIA® Quadro® NVS 295, QUAD MON, 4DP [add $100]
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AidenShaw said:
Nvidia doesn't make any graphics cards, so I don't see how that can be.

Dell still has DVI models...
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Odd; I attended an nVidia Quadro roll-out last week, and their marketing guy doing the presentation said they were all going DP only.

Clearly he was incorrect!
 
polaris20 said:
Odd; I attended an nVidia Quadro roll-out last week, and their marketing guy doing the presentation said they were all going DP only.

Clearly he was incorrect!
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Perhaps the native output from the GPU is DP, but card builders are free to put DP->DVI logic on their cards driving the DVI ports.
 
polaris20 said:
Odd; I attended an nVidia Quadro roll-out last week, and their marketing guy doing the presentation said they were all going DP only.

Clearly he was incorrect!
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So you believe everything they are marketing? Weren't you tell me that I shouldn't believe what marketing says? Take your own advice, troll.
 
whitefang said:
So you believe everything they are marketing? Weren't you tell me that I shouldn't believe what marketing says? Take your own advice, troll.
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it wasn't a biased test, it was a specification list. Can you understand the difference?

And I thought you were done arguing?

And you never answered my questions. What other technology have you used besides MS and Java?

I like how you ignore questions calling your bluff when asked about your credibility. Convenient.
 
polaris20 said:
it wasn't a biased test, it was a specification list. Can you understand the difference?

And I thought you were done arguing?
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It wasn't a biased test? How is the marketing not a biased test? I'm done arguing with you, troll.

I've used classic asp, php, oracle, postgre, ms sql, mysql, vb6. I've used various other specialized platforms like LMS and CMS. My primary is .NET and secondary is Java.
 
I'm not stupid enough to buy a PC. But then its cheaper in dollars but ultimately more expensive in lost productivity and ease of use. So really,
"you get what you pay for." Cheaper doesn't mean better.
 
whitefang said:
It wasn't a biased test? How is the marketing not a biased test? I'm done arguing with you, troll.
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Feature list. This product has these items. These claims can be verified by physically looking at the product. Can you see the DisplayPorts? Yes. Can you look in the system properties and see the memory being listed? Yes. Can you see it's a PCI-E x16 card that goes into a corresponding slot? Yes.

Biased Test: when a company runs performance tests itself or from a biased 3rd party. Lenovo does this. Apple does this. We all know that.

Can you tell the difference?
 
skye12 said:
I'm not stupid enough to buy a PC. But then its cheaper in dollars but ultimately more expensive in lost productivity and ease of use. So really,
"you get what you pay for." Cheaper doesn't mean better.
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Can you elaborate on how exactly a PC results in lost productivity and ease of use?
 
polaris20 said:
Feature list. This product has these items. These claims can be verified by physically looking at the product. Can you see the DisplayPorts? Yes. Can you look in the system properties and see the memory being listed? Yes. Can you see it's a PCI-E x16 card that goes into a corresponding slot? Yes.

Biased Test: when a company runs performance tests itself or from a biased 3rd party. Lenovo does this. Apple does this. We all know that.

Can you tell the difference?
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So you're telling me you saw the designer protypes (just images) of the NVidia cards with displayports presented by marketing people that are not even in production? And you count that as not biased? Go away, troll.
 
Did you guys hear about how the woman in the video is actually a known small-timer actress?

I'll dig up where I found it, if you guys want :)
 
whitefang said:
So you're telling me you saw the designer protypes (just images) of the NVidia cards with displayports presented by marketing people that are not even in production? And you count that as not biased? Go away, troll.
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No, I saw actual cards. Reading comprehension can be fun, can't it? I'm sorry everyone's calling you a troll, but that's no reason to lash out.
 
AidenShaw said:
Perhaps the native output from the GPU is DP, but card builders are free to put DP->DVI logic on their cards driving the DVI ports.
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These are what I was thinking of, the NVS series, which is 2D and designed for traders, and folks in general requiring a ton of desktop real estate.

http://pny.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS-450-x16-P2738C364.aspx
http://pny.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS-295-x16-P2802C364.aspx

The FX line now all have both DVI and DisplayPort. ATI also just released a bunch of DisplayPort stuff.
 
tubbymac said:
The problem with PowerShell is it doesn't come with either XP or Vista by default. It's finally included in Windows 7 though.
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no actaully it does, (this is a Windows XP update)

Powershell.jpg
 
skye12 said:
I'm not stupid enough to buy a PC. But then its cheaper in dollars but ultimately more expensive in lost productivity and ease of use. So really,
"you get what you pay for." Cheaper doesn't mean better.
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more expensive doesnt mean better either

thats like saying bose is actaully quality LOL dont even get me started on that

same with monster cable, $180 for a 6ft HDMI, please.....

cheaper does mean better some times if you are brave enough to do a little reasearch and stop hiding behind a brand name. (brand names today mean NOTHING)
 
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