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New Microsoft Ad Campaign Targets Mac Prices
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Did you guys hear about how the woman in the video is actually a known small-timer actress?
I'll dig up where I found it, if you guys want
Here's her IMDB page and her own personal website. Her name is Lauren DeLong.
I just did a search of this over 100 page thread and I'm shocked that the name "DeLong" didn't give me any results. I found this info in about 3 minutes.
of course it will, it will dominate in the price too.... as a pricing fail.
ok ok.. to be fair.......im looking at apple's website, their macbookpro is...
$2799 (USD)
2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
320GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
MacBook Pro 17-inch Hi-Resolution Glossy Widescreen Display
Backlit Keyboard (English) /
now lets MAKE that HP laptop cost $2799 so Lauren is spending the EXACT same amount of money
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9166635&type=product&id=1218041148373 (im assuming she got this one)
ok lets do a little math, $2799 ÷ $699 = 4.004 (rounding to 4)
she can get 4 of those laptops for the same price
4x Turion X2 2.1GHz = 8 Core Turion
4x 4GB Ram = 16GB of ram
4x 1440x900 = 5760x3600 resolution
4x 17" = 68" of screen space
4x 320GB HDD = 1280GB or 1.2TB
4x Radeon 3200 = Quad GPU
4x 2.3hours battery life= 8 hours (batteries ran in serial or just swapped)
4x HP remotes = 4x HP remotes.....????
4x Keypads = 4x Keypads
thats a pretty beastly machine if you ask me especially if you cluster them
There was an interesting article on Slashdot yesterday that compared the MBP 17" to HP, Dell, Sony, and Lenovo workstation level laptops. The price of the Apple wasn't too far off, actually.
That's assuming you're willing to consider the MBP a professional level machine, which as shown by this thread, many are not willing. I am, but that's my opinion when comparing it against my T61p.
My sarcasm meter wants to go off, but alas, it's flatlined. You do realise that's now how it works right ?
You know, I hate Apple fanboys with a passion, but the user you were accusing of being one isn't one.
Like he already pointed out, you do have some good points but they are mixed in with trollish, close minded opinions.
Linux is slow? Exchange is the ONLY corporate option? Uh, let me guess, you never heard of Google, right? They don't seem to think Linux is slow since they use it for pretty much everything in their company. Their web search is run on a Linux backend and is pretty much the best/fastest in the world. On top of that they are one of the most successful corporations in the world right now and don't rely on Microsoft Exchange. So yeah, you really don't know WTF you're talking about.
no, the MBP does not have a professional/commercial grade video card (Quadro mobile or FireGL mobile)
now im thinking slash dot sucks at comparing
$2799
2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
320GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
MacBook Pro 17-inch Hi-Resolution Glossy Widescreen Display
Backlit Keyboard (English) / User's Guide
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT graphics processor; 512MB of GDDR3 memory
$1999
2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB Ram
320GB HDD
8x DVDRW
17" WUXGA
NVIDIA GeForce 9650M GT 1GB of Deticated ram
so lets see
CPU Match
RAM Match (the mac has ddr3 but cannot take advatange of the speed boost, the ram used in themac has HIGHER Latency and core2duo do not have memory controllers built in, the only way you get true benefit from DDR3 is running in tripple ch on an i7 CPU or the new AMD Cpus)
HDD Match
ODD Match
Screen MACH
Video Card Asus wins
USB Asus wins 4 vs 3
VGA Asus wins (no adapters needed)
HDMI Asus Wins (No adapters needed)
eSATA Asus wins
card reader Asus wins
Accidental warranty Asus wins
Warranty Asus wins
Weight Apple Wins
the specs were just as a joke, but seriously.......
compare a $2700 with $2700
compare a $700 with $700
the HP Laptop is 720P capable and is great for watching movies. that laptop will not lag at all even playing a ripped bluray movie. the Turion 2.1GHz isnt as slow as you think it is, its not a crazy diffrence like 50% performance, its more like 95% vs 100% (completly not noticeable if your just surfing or even playing games, only in benchmarks)
also it has a keypad, MUCH more functional than a glowing apple logo the back on the LCD especially when taking notes that have lots of numbers
You misread my original reply. I said it doesn't come by DEFAULT with XP and Vista. Your screenshot shows it's an optional update. I'm not saying you can't get it for XP or Vista, just that it doesn't come in the box, so to speak.
Well it was an article linked there, not /. themselves. But I agree with you on the workstation graphics, something that also frustrates me on the MP (one of which we ordered with the 4870).
If all they did was drop in the Quadro as an option on the MP and MBP, I'd be pretty damn happy.
As it stands now it's kinda hampering the MP's use as an AutoCAD Inventor box, because we were going to use it dual boot; Win7/OS X, for Inventor on the Win side, proprietary apps on the OS X side.
The thing I hate about AMD stuff is not the chip itself, but rather how it's generally implemented. It seems as soon as you get away from Intel, the OEMs toss in crappy wireless, crappy chipsets, and crappy NICs. It's like they target the AMD equipped stuff as strictly budget hardware, and it doesn't need to be.
For example, I built my brother-in-law a DVR system with integrated graphics, but the integrated graphics are the ATI HD stuff, which are actually pretty nice. It also has HDMI output with audio, which is nice because he can then output the full quality he captured off of the DVR card. Nice hardware, all running Myth on Ubuntu.
Shame about the drivers?
Nvidia's binary drivers are still much more mature (vdpau is absolutely great too) than ati's offering - still wish that both manufacturers released decent oss alternatives (and were capable of producting drivers of a quality that match their products, on all os').I half agree with your other point, but intel based products are hardly immune from poor component choices (look at apple for one?!) - Things like buying a motherboard off the shelf, oems seem to want to give you 18 nic ports off a realtek chipset, when all I want is a single intel based device.
Actually no, both Intel and AMD have "systems". Intel has Centrino and AMD has the 780g platform. Most modern HP-AMD based laptops are 780g platform.
And also, all MODERN NVidia based cards starting from 8600 support audio through HDMI.
WUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
oh man funny, TY!!I'm still not getting it? Is Microsoft selling HP or is HP selling Microsoft, and if so then can/would Apple sell Linux or may be Linux can sell Apple!!!
I think that Microsoft NEEDS to focus more on how to better present their product rather than burn through cash with pricy (and lousy) commercials to rival the competition!
Instead of trying to sell a cheaper computer MS should sell what they know best, software! Microsoft (again) NEEDS to show off how powerful WINDOWS 7 is compared to the competition (OS X / Linux) what it can do from the most basic to the most complex of tasks and so forth.
Until Microsoft starts selling their very own computers, they should only focus on selling their own OS not some one else's cheap ass Computers/laptops!!
'nuff said
Shame about the drivers?
I half agree with your other point, but intel based products are hardly immune from poor component choices (look at apple for one?!) - Things like buying a motherboard off the shelf, oems seem to want to give you 18 nic ports off a realtek chipset, when all I want is a single intel based device.
I agree that nVidia's drivers still are superior, however ATI's drivers have improved leaps and bounds ever since AMD bought them, and as such is perfectly suitable for HD video viewing.
Last time I looked, the 780G platform doesn't include specific hardwire NIC or wireless requirements in order to be branded "780G".
http://www.amd.com/us-en/0,,3715_15532_15533,00.html#780G
In contrast, in order for a laptop to be branded "Centrino" it must include an Intel chipset (north and south bridge), Intel processor, and Intel wireless. The only thing that can vary (and does, as evident in HP Intel machines) is the hardwired NIC.
So while a 780G machine gets a 780G chipset and processor, it can have whatever wireless and hardwired NIC that the OEM can find cheapest. And that's often what you get.
Also, not sure why you brought up nVidia and HDMI. Both nVidia and ATI can have audio over HDMI.....So?
EDIT
I'm pretty sure the Broadcom wireless are not a part of the 780G spec.
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-321838-89315-3687621.html
Whereas the Centrino HP has an Intel CPU, Intel chipset, and Intel wireless.
Bottom line is if a machine is to be branded Centrino, than it has to meet those requirements, because then I know it will work fine with Linux, since Broadcom refuses to cooperate with the open source community as Intel does.
As has been pointed out many times (I can see why you wouldn't read 128 pages before posting thoughWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
I'm still not getting it? Is Microsoft selling HP or is HP selling Microsoft, and if so then can/would Apple sell Linux or may be Linux can sell Apple!!!
), they aren't selling any particular product, it's a brand ad for Windows. They're not selling Vista here, or HP machines, they're just saying "Thanks to Windows, there's a myriad of different computers out there for you to choose from, even if you're on a tight budget in this crappy economy".It's all part of this "Windows - Life Without Walls" campaign they kicked off with those weird Seinfeld ads, they're not plugging specific products. Just like the "Get a Mac" ads aren't trying to sell this iMac or that MacBook, they're just pushing the Mac brand.
Given the amount of trashing these MS ads keep beeing subjected to, I'm surprised that nobody has taken the "Life Without Walls" line and run with it, I mean come on, the goal is wide open. They're trying to wash away the whole virus & security problem reputation by talking about a life without walls, i.e. with no protection whatsoever? As in "life without firewalls?" *facepalm*
Whoa whoa whoa, werent u hounding me a few pages back about my source pool being too small to make statements? So now its ok as long as they are trusted by you?
Yup. The confusion around "Centrino" started when Intel were simultaneously selling Pentium 4 processors, Pentium 4M processors (mobile version of 4) and Pentium M processors (a whole new series, tied to the Centrino platform and the first product that had Intel suddenly talking about clock frequency not being important). People started calling the processors Centrino because A) it was easier than getting into a discussion about which "M" you were referring to, and B) every PC had a sticker on it that read "Intel Inside - Centrino" where there used to be a sticker that read "Intel Inside - Pentium".
In some rare cases we actually had Thinkpads branded Pentium M, where they had that chip, but either had another wireless brand (IBM branded) or none at all. This was back in 2004 or 2005.
Hard to imagine a laptop being purposely ordered without wireless, but my old boss hated wireless, and thus ordered his laptop without it.
I think they want to illustrate that without the walls then you have Windows... like those nice buildings that are all but big glass windows all over and no walls...hey aren't like that the main
stores?
This is a thread about an anti mac advertisement. Alot of us are here to point out how the ad, and windows for that matter, are flawed.
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