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Ooooh, gets the HP - smart girl!!!

On this stupid 13" Dell Latitude, $1495 (that cost $200 more than an equivalent Aluminum MacBook, mind you) and have found out that Quicktime Videos I used with Handbrake, iPod Hi-Res setting, all the videos play with the audio out-of-sync. Plays just fine on my cheap-o $379 Acer...

Michael Dell's laughing to the bank...

At least Lauren got the HP... :)

My point - PC's as far as price/performance are all over the map. So, of course you can find one better and cheaper than a Mac.
 
If a $700.00 17" notebook is what you want, then buy it. If a $3,500 Mac Pro is what you want, then buy it. You are the only one who knows what your financial situation can withstand. Save if you need to, splurge if you got it.
 
It doesnt bother me that you dont agree, it bothers me that you basically call anyone who doesnt agree with you a sucker because their priorities are different from yours.

Buy a PC if you wish, but we are not fools simply because we prefer the Apple experience and can justify the higher price to ourselves.

You werent "merely commenting" you were merely insulting people.


believe what you want....

to think theres no apple fanboyism going on in this thread is crazy. i never said it applied to everyone but there are definitely a few
 
the question is then do you want the best OS ever made or the piece of crap OS ever made known as Vista.;)

Apple stopped selling it in 2007. It was called "Tiger" and sadly they replaced it with unstable, sluggish "Leopard".
 
Apple's 24" iMac: There's more to High End than Performance
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article693-page1.html



See above. That's not a Mac centric site. Some people make money from their computer and a more efficient computer makes more money.

Not saying lowered prices are bad, but
if you want lower prices, go for refurb!
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac

Why in the world would you try to defend the 24" iMac with that horrible review!! It clearly states that the iMac is form over function.
 
Not true. The ad shows someone who wants a 17" laptop. She got one for a fraction of the cost Apple wanted for their machine. The Apple system would not have met her needs any more than the HP computer.

You can never separate your financial needs from your other needs, so why bother saying that Apple's machines will only suit you if money is no object?

She's probably going to return it anyways :) some people have to make sacrifices, and if you want a 17 inch screen THAT BADLY, and don't care about all the other rubbish, then a mac is not for you. Alot of teens in fact save money themselves to buy macs, I don't see how that would be a problem for an adult. PC's honestly suck, that is it. The OS is good though....when you run it on a mac :D.
 
This is an effective ad campaign in my opinion.

Slow economy, apple's got high priced computers and to a layman who historically used windows, a lower priced laptop with vista is probably more appealing.

I LOVE my macbook pro 17", dont get me wrong. My mom wouldn't even look in Apple's general direction when she went looking for a new laptop. She went straight to a HP Pavilion laptop. The reason, $$$$. It's still running fine except for a Firefox issue she had.

Many people have many different experiences but I hazard a guess there is more people like my mom with little to any problems with a PC running vista than not and this ad campaign is like a gold mine for that target.

Keeps them looking away from Mac, not me or people on this site.
 
She's probably going to return it anyways :) some people have to make sacrifices, and if you want a 17 inch screen THAT BADLY, and don't care about all the other rubbish, then a mac is not for you. Alot of teens in fact save money themselves to buy macs, I don't see how that would be a problem for an adult. PC's honestly suck, that is it. The OS is good though....when you run it on a mac :D.

#1 - A Mac is a PC
#2 - HP, Dell etc share many components with Apple's machines. You won't see any difference running Windows on an Apple computer compared to a similarly specced unit from HP.
#3 - "The OS is good" probably the most sensible thing someone's said in this topic so far.
 
And, Mac OS X runs great in 2Gb RAM, even on a laptop. Vista can frequently run slowly on a laptop with 4Gb RAM.

Talk about comparing Apples and... squash?

I don't know why people are stuck on the RAM thing. Vista needs the ENTIRE system to be up-to-date to run well.

MS fixes it in Windows 7 (cha-ching....)

Squash? LOL...

My friend's Mac runs great still and he's using it - 10.2 Blue G3 Tower... :eek:

:D
 
Thats assuming that Apple wants to be Dell....which it clearly doesn't want to be.

I don't know maybe its me, id rather pay $1500 for a mac than a piece of crap dell for $500, itll just take me more time to save up (which is exactly what I', doing right now, waiting to ditch this POS toshiba)
Apple's share holders probably dont want Apple to be like Dell either :rolleyes:

I didnt know Dell only made $500 pieces of crap. Apple should use that amazing comparison in their next commercial.

How is it, exactly, that iWork can't be used in a professional environment?
It doesnt play nice with Office files and just doesnt have the same features, its much more home-user than business-user. If you want to get fired for mangling the hell out of Office files then use iWork on things for your job that is shared with dozens of people.
 
believe what you want....

to think theres no apple fanboyism going on in this thread is crazy. i never said it applied to everyone but there are definitely a few

I dont care if there is or not, you for some reason went out of your way to insult others and contribute NOTHING to thread otherwise. Your only statement in that post was basically, "look at the fools haha".



On topic, why is it that MS decides to group ALL pc's under the title PC?

Surely people realize there are some TERRIBLY overpriced computers out there (alienware.....) as well as laughably underpowered under featured "bargains!" out there as well that fall under that amazingly generic title, PC.
 
I turned down a Apple laptop purely on price, for the money i got a HP with way better specs, just didn't make economical sense.
Don't understand this logic. Typically a consumer buys a computer that will last them 3-4 years. IF they buy a REALLY good one, it might last them even longer.

I spent $3299 on Apple's 17" PowerBook back in February of 2003 and it is still my only laptop. After six years, it's still is the sexiest laptop in the coffee shop and it does everything I need it to. That's 60 months of incredible service (never has been in the shop even once). That's like $10 a week.
 
Why in the world would you try to defend the 24" iMac with that horrible review!! It clearly states that the iMac is form over function.

You can't discount form though. Everybody pays a premium for owning things that look "nice". If this didn't hold true we would all live in Soviet-style Housing blocks, everything would have very similar labels, etc.

if you're working with a product a few hours a day over the course of two years, it's worth attempting to quantify the idea of having what you are working with being visually appealing.
 
And yet, go to any issue of consumer reports and you will find that Apple consistently rates as one of the highest is customer satisfaction, service, support and quality of manufacture.

Your statement could even more easily be used against any manufacturer in the PC world. And it's laughable that you mention the lack of firewire when that's a feature? that exists not at all on most PC laptops except as an option.

My point is that the features and options that once could be used to justify the price (besides the OS) are being taken away.

That's why I said Apple seems to be testing us, how much can they limit our choices in hardware and still count on us to buy their stuff 'because of the OS'.

I do love Apple, and have bought a TON of their stuff, but when I see my wifes year and a half old plastic macbook begin to spontaneously have small plastic pieces fall off it, and I check out my brothers iPhone 3g with the little cracks in the plastic, it pisses me off.
 
On topic, why is it that MS decides to group ALL pc's under the title PC?

I think it was Apple's "Get a Mac" campaign that decided that their computers were the only personal computers which weren't PCs.
 
PS. Pay no attention to the guy walking in front of the "Mac store" in the ad.

Also pay no attention how he is only 3 steps further ahead when she comes out of the store vs. when she went in.
 
This campaign is good for competition. I hope to see Apple lower prices! I am a Mac fan, but they do cost a premium. Of course, the more expensive Mac is better quality than the cheap HP... Still, Apple needs a low cost option IMO.
 
The least of Apple's problems

Not to add salt to the wounds but Apple made a very bad decision going with Nvidia.

From the Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20090326-718033.html

Once the Intel releases their own i5 Core processors for laptops, Apple will not be able to adopt them because their operating system is tied to Nvidia's Open CL architecture.

Apple will have to write two different codes for Intels own GPU and the older Nvidia (current) GPUs. This will incredibly time consuming and inefficient, and will result in all sorts of problems for Snow Leopard.

Nice one Apple:)
 
This campaign is good for competition. I hope to see Apple lower prices! I am a Mac fan, but they do cost a premium. Of course, the more expensive Mac is better quality than the cheap HP... Still, Apple needs a low cost option IMO.

Agreed, the cheapest MacBook is now £719, which gets you the same sort of spec as a machine which costs £400. The cheapest Mac desktop is £499 and that gets you a machine that was out of date two years ago.
 
I spent $3299 on Apple's 17" PowerBook back in February of 2003 and it is still my only laptop. After six years, it's still is the sexiest laptop in the coffee shop and it does everything I need it to. That's 60 months of incredible service (never has been in the shop even once). That's like $10 a week.
Whats your point? My mom is still using an HP that came out in 2000.
 
Exactly, as per usual great post consultant. This was originally what drew me to apple silence for my environment at home and not some monster fan trying to cool a cpu while sounding like a helicopter.

I fell like I have left reality and gone to crazy land. That review is pathetic and if you, the consumer, are ok with lower end, slower parts for higher price go ahead and buy the junk. You are the average consumer apple preys on. They could sneak an atom processor in there and you would never know the difference. Surfing the internet and reading email does not require much processor power or video card usage. So you will be fine with the iMac. When you want, or even know what a desktop is, come back and post.
 
Apple's share holders probably dont want Apple to be like Dell either :rolleyes:

Nope. Why would they? Apple's doing better than almost any tech company out there and they're an industry buzzword. Plus, they make ~30% margins, which means they're not in danger of going out of business anytime soon (they've had very good fiscal management too, which helps).

jW
 
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