Meandmunch
macrumors 6502
Facing the speaker set backwards might allow for a larger speakers and get the ipad thinner at the same time. This would also solve the problem of inadvertently covering them up with your hands as you hold it.
New Next-Generation iPad Case Offers Further Hints of Larger Speaker
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macrumors 6502a
will use the same stereo speakers and design from the current MBAir. They have done this testing the water with other products and introduce something new in a small way and then transition it to other products. has done this since Steve Jobs return to with the introduction of the original iMac, G3 PowerMac and iBook G3. Chances are these cases and case designs are all wrong considering the recent history with the iPod Touch 3 with rear camera. Technical issues aside.Expect 2 to 4 small slits like the MBAir on the iPad 2. These mock-ups make me sick due to its lack of imagination.
bytethese
macrumors 68030
So there must be a ton of audiophiles in here. I ask only because I was pleased with their car speakers in my old 2003 Acura RSX, what's the beef with Bose? I thought they sounded great in my car, just needed more bass. Once I installed a 1000W sub/amp combo in the back, it rounded out the sound and it was amazing.
Given that you can't expect an iPad-type device to thump, what's the gripe with Bose? Do their car speakers rock but their home theater, etc speakers suck?
Given that you can't expect an iPad-type device to thump, what's the gripe with Bose? Do their car speakers rock but their home theater, etc speakers suck?
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HiRez
macrumors 603
Let me ask you something: on an iPad, what is the meaning of "bottom"? Stereo speakers make no sense here because the spacial orientation is essentially random.
EDIT: the only way to really achieve this would be to place speakers at all four corners, then have the gyrocope/accelerometer determine the orientation, and what sound comes out of which speakers, but that seems like total overkill. As long as the sound is loud enough, I'm fine with mono, and keep the speaker discreet, that grille looks ugly cut into the back. You want good sound, put on headphones.
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chaosconan
macrumors 6502a
Now, that looks much better!
you couldn't at least center the home button
QuarterSwede
macrumors G3
The problem with Bose is that it's mostly midrange. Slap a bunch of good quality speakers (ie. Polk) in your car (which is the worst place to listen to music anyway) and you'll notice a big difference. Bose essentially sells speakers that sound mediocre but are priced in the range of high end speakers which are much, much better.
Another point of contention is that they refuse to use standards based testing to show freq. range/response etc. This is because on paper they're clearly subpar. Bose builds everything based on psychoacoustics so to them none of the testing matters. The problem with psychoacoustics is that it doesn't always work. Have you ever heard a Dolby Surround headphones.? It's all mind tricks and depending on what you're listening to it can fall apart.
I don't need to post extra findings on frequency response, they are already done. (I'm not going to buy a set just to please cynics) The Bose lawsuit against Consumer Reports and complaints against Stereophile magazine (and others) are very well known. Bose speakers do not even produce the entire audible (to humans) spectrum. While producing the low bass is not something most speakers can do (hence the existence of subs), Bose cannot produce many useful frequencies with ANY of their drivers. http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html
And yes, I have seen inside Bose speakers. The drivers are made of cheap paper, not unlike clock radios, which I've also torn apart. I've also seen inside or even rebuilt Klipsch, Polk, Pioneer, Boston Acoustics, Paradigm, NHT, SVS, Kenwood, and others. Paper is not an issue as a speaker material, many speakers are coated paper, but there is a quality difference.
Forgot: the other parts of their drivers are also sub-par, not just the paper surface.
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Thunderhawks
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You breathe in there for the coming ipolice breathalyzer app!
biscuitsxluv
macrumors 65816
Who cares!!!! Flash???!!
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
Three
You only need 3 speakers on 2 sides, not 4 speakers on 4 sides.
Landscape mode, X² and X³. Portrait mode X¹ and X².
You only need 3 speakers on 2 sides, not 4 speakers on 4 sides.
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"X" is a speakerLandscape mode, X² and X³. Portrait mode X¹ and X².
Fake
Apple no longer gives Dummies to case makers so that they can get a head start, because they can't keep there mouths shut. Thats why it takes up to 8 weeks when Apple releases a new product before the New Cases are available.
Now my 2cents. That is the exhaust vent for the New fuel cells Apple will install in the new iPad So you can run your ipad on Tap water.
My guess is as good as .....
Apple no longer gives Dummies to case makers so that they can get a head start, because they can't keep there mouths shut. Thats why it takes up to 8 weeks when Apple releases a new product before the New Cases are available.
Now my 2cents. That is the exhaust vent for the New fuel cells Apple will install in the new iPad So you can run your ipad on Tap water.
My guess is as good as .....
Who cares!!!! Flash???!!
If you want flash go buy the galaxy tab. Doesn't make any sense to complain on an Apple Forum.
I'm sure all those music companies that employ the iPad currently care. This is a nice addition, I don't get why people are complaining when Apple is adding in a feature that people most people didn't expect. It never is enough for some people.
One thing i really hope for is that the iPhone 5 and iPad 2g will have dual core processors. Upcoming android phones have been showing off tegra 2s so hopefully it'll be the same for new iOS devices.
cmaier
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Drawing is no good. The distance between each pair should stay constant, otherwise your stereo separation changes as you rotate. Which is another reason to have 4, I suppose. Not that you get any stereo separation unless you hold the thing very close to your face.
Richard1028
macrumors 68000
Now my 2cents. That is the exhaust vent for the New fuel cells Apple will install in the new iPad So you can run your ipad on Tap water.
My guess is as good as .....
It's a ventilation grill for the Gerbil. (It should make the little guy much snappier).
Really, who would think a questionable pic could cause so much consternation. Apple's stock dropped $1.56 today.
iEvolution
macrumors 65816
Coming from someone who clearly has never owned Bose anything. Calling it junk and comparing it to a clock radio is retarded.
They make good products, they may be overpriced and you definitely can get better bang for your buck going with another brand, but they aren't junk, just overpriced.
To contribute to the topic, larger internal speaker is not going to drive me to buy a iPad. The only thing that would even make me consider one is if the price drops...even then I'm not a fan of paying $800 for a product that is a slave to iTunes, which has had countless buggy releases.
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upside down Landscape + Portrait
3 = L
1 = Ruhh 2 speakers, one on each side.... regardless of rotation, im sure software can poll the orientation sensor to correctly determine which speaker is L and R.
EDIT: oh BTW, dont tell me you cant fit stereo speakers on the ipad, the phones below have stereo speakers
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AidenShaw
macrumors P6
As you say, unless you have your nose on the screen you can't tell the difference.
My drawing has them spaced for maximum stereo effect in each orientation.
Would you prefer?:
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"X" is a speakerThank you! I was reading through this thread and seeing all these retarded comments on Bose being rubbish, compared to 10$ radios, and having B&W suggested as a better make...
Honestly listen to the Zeppelin, then listen to the Soundock 10. I dont care if the speakers are made out of paper mache, the difference is night and day.
Also someone suggested Bose should test their products with standards like frequency response, which is one of the most meaningless stats on the package of a sound product there is, you simply CANNOT judge a headphones quality by the manufacturers stated frequency response. Take a look at the back of the packaging of some cheap JVC Marshmallows, then do the same with some expensive Shure 535's and you will see what I mean. Instead of stats, try listening to the product before making your mind up about them
Im not disputing they are expensive, its a branding thing, you know like Apple (and funnily enough, B&W). Like Apple they are not keen on retailers selling at lower than RRP prices, and keep a similar level of control on their product market. And like Apple and B&W, they are overpriced.
Not even saying they are the best out there, and I think their in ears are rubbish, but the crappy Bose comments here are completely typical of a forum, too many people talking the talk without actually listening to them. Vast majority of people in our shop who try them vs other makes think Bose are incredible.
Guess its "cool" to hate Bose.
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Gasu E.
macrumors 603
Bose sued Consumer Reports in 1981 for libel. The basis was that CR editors significantly changed the wording of the original reviewers report to make the product sound worse. A lower court found for Bose. A higher court later reversed the libel decision, finding that the changes, although they did change the original reviewer's intent, were made "without malice," as "malicious intent" is required for a libel judgement.
Is this what you were referring to when you said "ose sued audio magazines", or is there some other incident along these lines? If so, which magazine(s), and when?