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New PowerMacs Released
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this makes me laugh
you know, i hate when people correct others in the forums but this is a perfect example:
pompus should be pompous
and
your should be you're since YOU'RE saying you are.
before lashing out against someones intelligence... check your spelling
you know, i hate when people correct others in the forums but this is a perfect example:
pompus should be pompous
and
your should be you're since YOU'RE saying you are.
before lashing out against someones intelligence... check your spelling
Here's an interesting piece of info pulled from that
http://www.apple.com/powermac/architecture.html
link given a few posts ago....
"The resulting throughput between main memory and the system controller is up to 2.7GBps, more than double the throughput from the previous dual 1GHz Power Mac G4"
http://www.apple.com/powermac/architecture.html
link given a few posts ago....
"The resulting throughput between main memory and the system controller is up to 2.7GBps, more than double the throughput from the previous dual 1GHz Power Mac G4"
Germam prices...
I just checked the prices in the german Apple Store (based on the current exchange course):
DP867: 1845.- US$ + tax
DP1000: 2,620.- US$ + tax
DP1250: 3,490.- US$ + tax
DP1250 (ultimate): 5,470.- US$ + tax
They are really nuckin' futs!!! The rip off goes on for european users! I am really mad now! The DP1250 costs almost 200$ more here! What do they think??? ... in case they think at all!!!
Yeah, that's how you increase market share Apple!!! Go on like that... good plan!
*shaking head*
groovebuster
I just checked the prices in the german Apple Store (based on the current exchange course):
DP867: 1845.- US$ + tax
DP1000: 2,620.- US$ + tax
DP1250: 3,490.- US$ + tax
DP1250 (ultimate): 5,470.- US$ + tax
They are really nuckin' futs!!! The rip off goes on for european users! I am really mad now! The DP1250 costs almost 200$ more here!
What do they think??? ... in case they think at all!!!Yeah, that's how you increase market share Apple!!! Go on like that... good plan!
*shaking head*
groovebuster
Many of the things on my upgrade wish list came true - front expansion slot, dual-processor configurations, and lower prices. I hope these new PowerMacs are really quiet. I like the more aggressive looks of the case design too, and the elimination of some old PC-type bottlenecks will be another reason to choose the PowerMac over the "Made in Elbonia" Dell desktop.
i have never been so happy that i bought early. sure the new case looks nice and a dualie with ddr (same fsb) would scream but i also would have had to wait close to 6 months for these IMO minor improvements. This is what the PM should have been last update. When I see this new IBM chip im getting a new one, until then my 933 doesn't make me the least bit envious of these machines.
Re: Re: Re: By the way...
Off-topic, but does Myriad go by a different name? If not, is there someplace I could download it? I'd like to try it out.
Draft
Off-topic, but does Myriad go by a different name? If not, is there someplace I could download it? I'd like to try it out.
Draft
OMG, you can't actually be serious about that! The size of the buses in the picture have nothing to do with the speed of the buses. The PCI bus lines look almost as thick as the AGP bus lines when the throughput of 4x AGP is 8x greater. The speeds of the bus between G4s and from the G4s to the system controller are only 133-166Mhz, just like the XServe, unfortunately. Looks like Apple screwed up again thanks to motorola
Re: I ain't switching yet
I 100% agree. I have been waiting to switch for sometime, and I want to know the performance of these machines compared to the old ones. I specifically want to know how VPC would run on these babies! The old DP was ok, I hoping these are better. I have to be able to run some work software at an acceptable rate.
Originally posted by iamspooky
Aloha,
The proof is "in the putting" and I'm putting my money nowhere until I see some raw tests and actual results of performance from an independent party. Compare these new systems to the old G4's and let's see what happens ?? Until then all this talk is only "poopput" to me......
Regards,
Mark
I 100% agree. I have been waiting to switch for sometime, and I want to know the performance of these machines compared to the old ones. I specifically want to know how VPC would run on these babies! The old DP was ok, I hoping these are better. I have to be able to run some work software at an acceptable rate.
Re: I ain't switching yet
I thought the proof was in the "pudding." Have I just been eating way too much desert? Or is it dessert?
Originally posted by iamspooky
Aloha,
I don't know about you you folks but I won't believe all this
"TRUE" DDR ram throughput bus voodoo from Apple's savy marketing staff. The proof is "in the putting" and I'm putting my money nowhere until I see some raw tests and actual results of performance from an independent party. Compare these new systems to the old G4's and let's see what happens ?? Until then all this talk is only "poopput" to me......
Regards,
Mark
I thought the proof was in the "pudding." Have I just been eating way too much desert? Or is it dessert?
Oh, and by the way, I do like the new powermacs. The case leaves something to be desired, as well as the jacked-up pricing, but it's a sweet machine.
My favorite things are dual optical drive bays, ATI 9000, and the fact that they finally have DDR.
Draft
My favorite things are dual optical drive bays, ATI 9000, and the fact that they finally have DDR.
Draft
Re: Re: Re: Re: By the way...
...it's a professional Adobe font and costs you hundrets of dollars
I agree with groovebuster, the German prices are a total rip-off ! Good thing I was able to get an iPod in the US half a year ago... it was still cheaper than it is in Europe now, after the price drop!
...it's a professional Adobe font and costs you hundrets of dollars
I agree with groovebuster, the German prices are a total rip-off ! Good thing I was able to get an iPod in the US half a year ago... it was still cheaper than it is in Europe now, after the price drop!
Exactly, especially since DDR has nothing to do with how "wide" (even if you could determine that by the number of traces on the motherboard which you can't) the bus is and everything to do with transfering data two times per clock.
The only hope you can get from this architecture is the fact that the system controller supposedly allows other devices DMA to main memory. So, the bandwidth to the processor may only increase a little with the clock bump to 167MHz but we may be able to get a little more bandwidth to peripheral cards, devices, io, etc.
Various forms of Myriad can be purchased from Adobe or Eyewire. It also comes with most (or all?) Adobe products. So if you have Illustrator, Photoshop, etc. you will have Myriad normal, italic, bold and bold italic.
There is no way those macs are gonna be as quiet as the old ones... I mean, did you see the cooling system, there must be some really loud fans as well...
I just hope it's not even nearly as loud as the Xserve, that would suck so bad... No way I'm gonna leave my fan-less iMac for one of those
Re: Not too expensive, you are just too cheap
True, but any self-respecting pc user (trust me they actually exist) would buy/build a clone with much better specs than that. Practically all of the good motherboards out there have 4 IDE channels, 2 of which are on an onboard RAID chip. They all use at least PC2100 DDR RAM, and many have onboard ethernet and as much as 5 usb ports. Some even have USB 2.0 onboard. Granted, they don't have gigabit ethernet or firewire, but aside from firewire, how many people actually use the full gigabit connection?
True, but any self-respecting pc user (trust me they actually exist) would buy/build a clone with much better specs than that. Practically all of the good motherboards out there have 4 IDE channels, 2 of which are on an onboard RAID chip. They all use at least PC2100 DDR RAM, and many have onboard ethernet and as much as 5 usb ports. Some even have USB 2.0 onboard. Granted, they don't have gigabit ethernet or firewire, but aside from firewire, how many people actually use the full gigabit connection?
YES !!! YES !!! WE HAVE DDR the WHOLE WAY !!! I talk to two seperate people at the Apple Store, who KNEW what they were talking about, and I quote
" No, this isnt' like the X Serve that only has DDR to the chipset sir, it has DDR the whole way through"
SCORE !!!!!!!
YES YES YES !!!!
" No, this isnt' like the X Serve that only has DDR to the chipset sir, it has DDR the whole way through"
SCORE !!!!!!!
YES YES YES !!!!
About time! The dual 1 gig is looking good to me at this early point in time. Also good that it is shipping right away. I'll probably order Monday when I'm back from vacation.
Will these towers accept a 3rd party IDE burner? Apple isn't giving us much choice in this department. $250 for an additional combo drive is a little steep. Also I'm worried about the door arrangement.
Ditto for memory. I will fill it with memory from Crucial or elsewhere for much cheaper.
Will these towers accept a 3rd party IDE burner? Apple isn't giving us much choice in this department. $250 for an additional combo drive is a little steep. Also I'm worried about the door arrangement.
Ditto for memory. I will fill it with memory from Crucial or elsewhere for much cheaper.