New Pride Watch Faces Available in watchOS 5.2.1

[NM08SRT8]

That’s a bit ignorant and just plain wrong. The vast majority of people walking down the the streets hanging off each other, eating the face of each other just on a random street in the middle of the day - are straight people, not gay people. LGBT+ people tend to be much more reserved in public than a much larger portion of straight ones. Very few gay people would walk down the street holding hands for fear of attack - verbal or physical. Do straight people fear that? Or will a large portion of them kiss and be all over each other even walking through a Disney park?

When it comes to Pride - yes people from the LGBT+ community will throw it more in peoples face and I’m all for it. When people aren’t looked at as monsters for loving who they love there won’t be special Pride bands and events. They are only a thing because people need to see the normality of it. Others need to see that all these people, many you wouldn’t have “known were gay” are.
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Why does the American definition of free speech always need to include hate speech? I’m glad in the UK we have free speech but that doesn’t mean you can decide that when you don’t agree with someone you can sit and spout hate towards them or decide that they shouldn’t be “allowed”.

Limitations on free speech? Think about that..

You think that everyone is going to agree about everything? Why is it that if someone is gay, everyone should accept and cope with it.. if you don’t agree with it you’re expected to shut up. Don’t you think that’s a little one way?

 

[gstevie]

So, can we see both old and new pride faces or just the new?

I had the old one on when I heard there was a new one. I installed the new watch OS update and it took a while but it changed the old pride face to the new one.

Also I can’t see the round one.

Anyone else having issues getting this face to show?

Fixed typo

I can see them all.

 

[eatrains]

Limitations on free speech? Think about that..

You think that everyone is going to agree about everything? Why is it that if someone is gay, everyone should accept and cope with it.. if you don’t agree with it you’re expected to shut up. Don’t you think that’s a little one way?

Why is it that if someone is black, everyone should accept and cope with it.. if you don’t agree with it you’re expected to shut up. Don’t you think that’s a little one way?

(/s, obviously)

 

[BeforeTheMeds]

[QUOTE="gstevie]

Why does the American definition of free speech always need to include hate speech? I’m glad in the UK we have free speech but that doesn’t mean you can decide that when you don’t agree with someone you can sit and spout hate towards them or decide that they shouldn’t be “allowed”.[/QUOTE]

Typically because there is no clear cut definition of hate speech. Who decides what is hate speech? Does it depend on whether you get a left wing or right wing judge? That’s how it works you know, ideology defines most judges. Like it or not.

You seem to think defining hate is easy. It’s not. For example you would think it would be easy to define hate against children but make them white with red hats and it doesn’t matter that they did nothing wrong. Yet the black group of adults that actually attacked them got no notice. I am brown by the way.

This group of kids bought presidential campaign hats like every group before them, like the ones that bought hope and change when obama was in. THIS is considered hate speech by many where adults (black israeltes) attacking them, gays, etc. Viciously were not given attention. Nothing was said about the mainstream “celebrities” hate speech toward children.

This is just the most recent and obvious example, but I trust NEITHER side with deciding what is hatespeech. Don’t like someone that politically opposes you? Hatespeech. Attacking any president’s children? Not hate speech if decided by a judge appointed by the opposing party.

Not easy at all. I agree, it should be.

I could care less about the watch faces. Like everything else it’s about the money and that’s no surprise.

 

[iLLUMI]

Say it loud, say it proud.
These colors are very loud.
Wear them with pride I guess.

 

[neliason]

Well when people are treated equally under the law.... tout'ing is a must! And side note, LGBT Pride has nothing to do with sex...

That doesn’t make sense. The entire distinction of people who identify with this group is about who they have or want to have sex with.

 

[Zachari]

Someone else having support doesn't equate to hate against you.

stop trying to make everything about your own victimhood.. especially when nobody is actively persecuting you.

I mean I don't agree with AppleFan on this, but you are very wrong if you think Christians aren't persecuted.

 

[aliensporebomb]

The one on the far left looks like someone closed their rings a billion times.

 

[Jamers99]

I remember the days when I used to love seeing the rainbow, before it was co-opted.

 

[LordVic]

I mean I don't agree with AppleFan on this, but you are very wrong if you think Christians aren't persecuted.

False equivelancy.

I do not doubt that in parts fo the world, that their regressive, authoritarian religious based policies are persecuting other religions.

But the point being made that standing up for gay rights and pride isn't persecution of Christianity. They're separate issues entirely. So someone coming here, into thread about gay rights, and complaining about religious persecution in the west is deflecting for their own ends.
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I'm gay but have nothing to do with the community so I have a question: LGBTQS2? I thought it's LGBTQ so what does S2 stand for and when was that added?

Sorry, I missed this.

In Canada, at least we tryto include "S2" in respect to our native cultures who have non-binary sexuality. Refers to "Two Spirit" essentially. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-spirit

 

[GuruZac]

I was only joking with the guy. Sheesh. You folks sure are delicate around here.

To be fair I should have asked if you were serious because I suspected you might with the smiley face. My apologies if that was overtly directed at you. It was meant to be general.

 

[Mac 128]

I don't understand why Apple doesn't open up to 3rd party designed watch faces like other watches. Sell them in the store for $1 and let people choose their own faces to have. Having Tim choose them for us seems selfish and biased.

There’s too much money to be made in exclusive licensing deals with companies like Hermès and Nike at the moment.

How about watch faces for heterosexuals? Or is that too politically incorrect? Not very inclusive is it if you single out a community to say, 'Here's something for you', but in effect you're actually forgetting or discounting others.

Do you also say “All Lives Matter” in the face of the “Black Lives Matter” movement? If so, you’re missing the point, just as you are here.

What exactly would a “heterosexual” watch face look like anyway?

 

[Xultar]

I can see them all.

Thanks! I figured it out.
I hadn’t updated to the new iOS yet. Once I did I was able to see both. Which is weird though that the watch updated my old pride face to the new anyway, it still showed the old only in the Apple Watch app tho.
[doublepost=1557848967][/doublepost]Ugh.

Vogons, please hurry. Start here. In this thread.

 

[Glockworkorange]

What has this got to do with sex?

What does homosexuality have to do with sex? Why, it's the thing that separates homosexuality from the 97% of non-homosexuals that practice heterosexual sex. Discussing homosexuality is discussing your sexual attraction to someone of the same sex, and, presumably, sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex, so yes, sex is relevant to this topic.

But of course you knew that.

 

[Marekul]

False equivelancy.

I do not doubt that in parts fo the world, that their regressive, authoritarian religious based policies are persecuting other religions.

But the point being made that standing up for gay rights and pride isn't persecution of Christianity. They're separate issues entirely. So someone coming here, into thread about gay rights, and complaining about religious persecution in the west is deflecting for their own ends.

For you, they may be separate issues entirely.
For people who don't think in labels, who don't differ between race or skin color, sexual orientation, religion or geographic location, for whom every human being is the same it seems like a very unnecessary distinction. Why single out a few minority groups and make a huge party out of such an important cause?
I don't get it.

Sorry, I missed this.

In Canada, at least we tryto include "S2" in respect to our native cultures who have non-binary sexuality. Refers to "Two Spirit" essentially. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-spirit

So last thread here someone got berated for missing the ”I" as in LGBTQI. Now i learn its LGBTQIS2.... what's the endgame here? Seriously, shouldn't it just be "human beings" and get rid of the classifications and labels when talking about equality and basic human rights?

 

[Glockworkorange]

False equivelancy.

I do not doubt that in parts fo the world, that their regressive, authoritarian religious based policies are persecuting other religions.

But the point being made that standing up for gay rights and pride isn't persecution of Christianity. They're separate issues entirely. So someone coming here, into thread about gay rights, and complaining about religious persecution in the west is deflecting for their own ends.
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Sorry, I missed this.

In Canada, at least we tryto include "S2" in respect to our native cultures who have non-binary sexuality. Refers to "Two Spirit" essentially. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-spirit

Or just, you know....bake the cake, bigot.

The gay lobby absolutely bullies and shames and, dare I say, persecutes people of faith.

Please, continue to force people of faith to bake a cake for a gay wedding, no matter how much it might violate their beliefs.

Or you can take it a step further, which is what the left did in Colorado-specifically target someone of faith they knew wouldn't bake the cake just to destroy and humiliate him (there were plenty of other bakers who would have baked the cake).

I don't recall seeing any Christians forcing gays to bake cakes with Christian iconography, do you?

When the baker won at the Supreme Court, you know what happened like a month later?

A new couple came in and asked him to bake a cake for some type of trans coming out party, which, of course, he refused to do based on his religious beliefs. Obviously, the customers knew that going in (how could they not know!), but they did it anyway. He's in litigation over that now, litigation meant to destroy him.

The Gay Lobby is not above bullying and shaming religious people who act in good faith. You don't think that's persecution? Lol.

 

[Jarrodbcall]

I'm (proudly) straight, but these watch faces are excellent and will appeal to my (proud) gay friends as well as others. <3 There's something real cool 70s retro about them.

Man, I love this comment so much. I’m proudly gay and want everyone to love their orientation. Being gay rocks! Being straight rocks!

 

[19SK91]

False equivelancy.

I do not doubt that in parts fo the world, that their regressive, authoritarian religious based policies are persecuting other religions.

But the point being made that standing up for gay rights and pride isn't persecution of Christianity. They're separate issues entirely. So someone coming here, into thread about gay rights, and complaining about religious persecution in the west is deflecting for their own ends.
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Sorry, I missed this.

In Canada, at least we tryto include "S2" in respect to our native cultures who have non-binary sexuality. Refers to "Two Spirit" essentially. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-spirit

Oh okay, makes sense then that as a European I've never heard of it.

 

[WinterWolf90]

Or just, you know....bake the cake, bigot.

The gay lobby absolutely bullies and shames and, dare I say, persecutes people of faith.

Please, continue to force people of faith to bake a cake for a gay wedding, no matter how much it might violate their beliefs.

Or you can take it a step further, which is what the left did in Colorado-specifically target someone of faith they knew wouldn't bake the cake just to destroy and humiliate him (there were plenty of other bakers who would have baked the cake).

I don't recall seeing any Christians forcing gays to bake cakes with Christian iconography, do you?

When the baker won at the Supreme Court, you know what happened like a month later?

A new couple came in and asked him to bake a cake for some type of trans coming out party, which, of course, he refused to do based on his religious beliefs. Obviously, the customers knew that going in (how could they not know!), but they did it anyway. He's in litigation over that now, litigation meant to destroy him.

The Gay Lobby is not above bullying and shaming religious people who act in good faith. You don't think that's persecution? Lol.

You're right, we didn't see christians trying to make people bake cakes, We saw them slaughter people throughout time, pass laws against minorities, say that interracial marriage is sin, shocked gay men and women in conversion therapy. Just stuff that was better than baking cakes right?

 

[Xultar]

What does homosexuality have to do with sex? Why, it's the thing that separates homosexuality from the 97% of non-homosexuals that practice heterosexual sex. Discussing homosexuality is discussing your sexual attraction to someone of the same sex, and, presumably, sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex, so yes, sex is relevant to this topic.

But of course you knew that.

Actually no. You can be hetero/homo/bi/tri sexual and not have any sex. So technically it’s got nothing to do with sex.

...and neither does this dang watch face. Yes, the actual watch face has absolutely nothing to do with sex. How this thread ended up in Dr Ruth’s bedtime reading “30shades of Apple Watch face” is beyond me.

Can we get back to that! You know the whole techie thing.

Because the face is cool. It ripples where you tap. HashTag nooice.

 

[Marekul]

Actually no. You can be hetero/homo/bi/tri sexual and not have any sex. So technically it’s got nothing to do with sex.

...and neither does this dang watch face. Yes, the actual watch face has absolutely nothing to do with sex. How this thread ended up in Dr Ruth’s bedtime reading “30shades of Apple Watch face” is beyond me.

Can we get back to that! You know the whole techie thing.

Because the face is cool. It ripples where you tap. HashTag nooice.

Look, the Pride watching face is a political statement. Naturally it will spark a political debate. If there is anyone to blame for this debate here it’s apple.

 

[dannys1]

It’s in poor taste for Apple to include gay pride watch faces, just like it would be in poor taste for Apple to include straight pride watch faces. Taking political sides is divisive because it excludes large groups of customers.

Apple should be apolitical. But an apolitical approach won’t happen due to Apple SJW CEO Tim Cook.

You ok babe?
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I get more crap for being a Trump supporter than I do for being gay.

As it should be one, one is evil, one is perfectly fine.

 

[gstevie]

Or just, you know....bake the cake, bigot.

The gay lobby absolutely bullies and shames and, dare I say, persecutes people of faith.

Please, continue to force people of faith to bake a cake for a gay wedding, no matter how much it might violate their beliefs.

Or you can take it a step further, which is what the left did in Colorado-specifically target someone of faith they knew wouldn't bake the cake just to destroy and humiliate him (there were plenty of other bakers who would have baked the cake).

I don't recall seeing any Christians forcing gays to bake cakes with Christian iconography, do you?

When the baker won at the Supreme Court, you know what happened like a month later?

A new couple came in and asked him to bake a cake for some type of trans coming out party, which, of course, he refused to do based on his religious beliefs. Obviously, the customers knew that going in (how could they not know!), but they did it anyway. He's in litigation over that now, litigation meant to destroy him.

The Gay Lobby is not above bullying and shaming religious people who act in good faith. You don't think that's persecution? Lol.

The poor Christian’s - won’t someone please think of this poor minority group of people that have had nothing but shame and been forced to hide in the shadows for the last 100 years. I mean I’ve even heard that they banned them taking about their stolen pagan holiday in December. If only they had say a rallying symbol, like a cross to wear, or an enormous international organised ridiculously rich organisation lobbying for them. If only... oh wait, hang on...

 

[ThisBougieLife]

You're right, we didn't see christians trying to make people bake cakes, We saw them slaughter people throughout time, pass laws against minorities, say that interracial marriage is sin, shocked gay men and women in conversion therapy. Just stuff that was better than baking cakes right?

Yeah. You are quite fortunate if "persecution" for you involves cakes.

That said, I don't agree with the way this cake maker has been treated.

But that is not at all evidence that LGBT people are oppressive and dominant and Christians are persecuted. It's evidence that people can be litigious jerks, whether LGBT or not.

 

[Glockworkorange]

Actually no. You can be hetero/homo/bi/tri sexual and not have any sex. So technically it’s got nothing to do with sex.

...and neither does this dang watch face. Yes, the actual watch face has absolutely nothing to do with sex. How this thread ended up in Dr Ruth’s bedtime reading “30shades of Apple Watch face” is beyond me.

Can we get back to that! You know the whole techie thing.

Because the face is cool. It ripples where you tap. HashTag nooice.

Ah, the left---science deniers! Sex...is not about sex!