New Renderings Show an 'iPhone 8' Design With Full-Front Display and Minimal Bezels All Around

[amirite]

I will miss the current TouchId/home button sensor.
Think about this use case.

There you are slowly waking up and your alarm goes off. With the current design, you can find the button without having to open your eyes. You can find it by touch alone. Perfect for another 10 minutes in bed.
Having to open your eyes to find the cancel/snooze control is IMHO a retrograde step.
Not being able to do this in the future will probably make me delay upgrading for at least 2 if not 3 years.

Really, three years because of that? This is really bad sleep hygiene anyway.

 

[ValO]

I really hope the iphone 8 will have resemblence to to the apple watch, would love the curved glass and a metal frame with a glass back for this design, and would get a space black one!

 

[shanson27]

My design looks much better

 

[ghost187]

I'm still skeptical that everything can be put behind the display and just work as they have before. Hope they do pull it off though.

 

[ValO]

I'm still skeptical that everything can be put behind the display and just work as they have before. Hope they do pull it off though.

I think the camera and the speaker won' t be behind the coverglass of the screen, but that there will be holes in the coverglass. Less clean, but more likely.

 

[apolloa]

It is impossible if you are talking about a 16:9 display aspect ratio as in the 6s/7, it won' t be if it is a aspect ratio like 19:9 or something. So basically a display that has the same width as the 6s screen, but is taller.

It is still physically impossible fact! Look at the width of this device and the length, the exact same as the 6, 6S and 7 yet it magically fits a screen that won't physically fit. The screen ratio makes no difference.

For a 5.7" screen to fit the phone has to be physically bigger.

 

[GadgetBen]

Looks great. I'm still loving my 7 jet black, it would be amazing to have an end-to-end full screen.

There is still a bezel though.

I really hope that Apple remove the bezel completely, so that it does look like one sheet of glass from the front.

 

[Sasparilla]

Absolutely love this render, I want no top / bottom bezels - looks so much better than the recent Samsung S8 and other droids with bezels.

How the selfie camera (and other sensors) would work going through the active display is a good question, so perhaps it won't be possible. However, if it is, I think this looks awesome. Would love a slanted ear speaker outlet so the display could cover it with no visible hole when viewed from the top.

 

[ValO]

It is still physically impossible fact! Look at the width of this device and the length, the exact same as the 6, 6S and 7 yet it magically fits a screen that won't physically fit. The screen ratio makes no difference.

For a 5.7" screen to fit the phone has to be physically bigger.

Sorry, you are wrong.

Lool at the screen dimensions of the 5.8 inch galaxy s8 , over here:
https://www.sven.de/dpi/
It will fit the 6s/7 And aspect ratio will make a difference.

 

[LordQ]

My design looks much better

But you're using Helvetica, not San Francisco

 

[Kid Red]

I doubt the ear piece and light sensor would move up that high. Apple uses that center section of the top line for LOCKED and UNLOCKED. If those parts do move up, I don't think it would be all that way up, maybe to hang out just under that top line.

I also don't think the icons would move up that high. Apple would probably keep a buffer on the top (for ear piece/light sensor) and the bottom (thumb print/home button) where icons would be prevented from displaying.

 

[LordQ]

Am I the only one wondering why is the sleep/wake button twice the size?

 

[wozmatic]

Looks better and more Apple like...except for the camera! Please Apple don't have the camera like that lmao

I'm still no the iPhone 5 because I refuse to support the rear protruding camera.

I'd rather them make the phone 2mm thicker then have that monstrosity at the pack

 

[StevieD100]

So according to you, the whole decision for bezel-less screen, edge-to-edge screen hinges on how easily it will be to hit the snooze button? I guess for you, Tesla should design their cars based on how much sleeping room you need and your refrigerator better have night mode, and your toilet should make humming noises so you can continue sleeping while peeing.

I'll inform the whole world that design decision should be based on your sleep schedule.

No, no and thrice no.
I was merely giving an example of where the current device is perfect. But no, you take what I said and blew it up to an extreme that was a long way beyond my use case.
I wasn't talking about snoozing using the volume controls but cancelling the alarm sort of like you could do with a traditional alarm clock. I'll admit that I could have worded it better.

I'll repeat it, I was giving an example of a use case where the current device is perfect. I'm not telling Apple to leave it alone. They would not listen to me. I will exercise my right to choose to NOT to buy a new bezel free device if that is what is released. Before I make that decision I will try the new device out.
That good enought for you?

 

[hawkeye_a]

Personally, I found Palm's implementation of a 'soft' home button and gesture area under the screen on the PalmPre2 to be a more elegant, functionally sound, and possibly cost-effective approach.

 

[Mactendo]

I'm curious if it will retain the landscape mode of iPhone Plus.
[doublepost=1492437694][/doublepost]I wish it looked similar to this, but it won't...

 

[sniffies]

I'm Chinese. All I can say is that KK is a thief and liar, who insisted there was a navy blue iPhone 7 model last year, even in September, just before iPhone 7 announcement. His predictions mostly are based on rumors from other people on supply chain and often be inaccurate. He made some fake models video last year and put them on Weibo and twitter to seduce more followers and it turns out that the model isn't real at all.

Please like and retweet

 

[shplock]

I will miss the current TouchId/home button sensor.
Think about this use case.

There you are slowly waking up and your alarm goes off. With the current design, you can find the button without having to open your eyes. You can find it by touch alone. Perfect for another 10 minutes in bed.
Having to open your eyes to find the cancel/snooze control is IMHO a retrograde step.
Not being able to do this in the future will probably make me delay upgrading for at least 2 if not 3 years.

Well then use Hey Siri, or just open your eyes for a moment and slightly lift the phone thus activating raise to wake and there you go!
Sometimes in life we need to make adjustments when technology evolves and either you adjust with it or you don't. if you don't then do not complain about being left behind.

 

[djlythium]

Most photos are taken in landscape mode, not portrait. Seems reasonable to rotate them.

This assumes that the layout of those two lenses matters to picture quality. Why would that be?
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I will miss the current TouchId/home button sensor.
Think about this use case.

There you are slowly waking up and your alarm goes off. With the current design, you can find the button without having to open your eyes. You can find it by touch alone. Perfect for another 10 minutes in bed.
Having to open your eyes to find the cancel/snooze control is IMHO a retrograde step.
Not being able to do this in the future will probably make me delay upgrading for at least 2 if not 3 years.

Wait: if the "button" was embedded into the screen, then you could just touch the screen.

What am I missing?

 

[shplock]

Front facing camera and sensors?

I just don't see the top part of the display have the ear peiece integrated. They'll be more of a bezel up top to accommodate the camera and sensors as usual.

As for TouchID, seems as if Apples fighting the same battle Samsung did with the S8, who had to concede at some point and slip it around to the back to meet deadline. Will the Note 8 get it or is it another year and the S9 for them?

Like it or not, I see the IPhone being close to the S8 in frontward looks.

Yes but Apple have a patent for touch id being under the screen so maybe Samsung never made any attempt at putting their fingerprint scanner under the screen. Considering all the legal problems they have had and are having at present perhaps they just thought better of it.
Plus Apple managed to create touch id despite the so called experts saying that Apple could not do it. So maybe they have found a way to place touch id under the screen and there are no problems with yield rates. This was only as a result of one of these so called experts saying the yield rates were low. The same experts who said there would be no 5.5" iPhone plus, who said there would be now ay Apple could put a fingerprint scanner in an iPhone, who said that Apple were doomed within 6 months.
The trouble with so called experts is, is that they ted to be wrong more than they are right.

 

[5105973]

Ok, you think so from a drawing.
But these rumors, could make this possible.
Look at these renders that have been around for some time now, and then tell which one you like better(except for the cameras on the back it really matches these rumors.
I know which one i like better.

Those are gorgeous. Those I would buy, but in the second generation as I think I am not inclined to buy first generation versions of most things by Apple again.

They can put the camera lenses horizontal, vertical or diagonal and I would be fine if they can make the cameras look like that and not the embarrassing lumps we put up with now.

The other renders and diagrams I've seen on this site recently have looked comical. I refuse to believe Apple would subject consumers to another generation of fugly camera lumps. Well..unless it's the IPhone 7s-sPlus.

 

[Mad Mac Maniac]

1. I don't understand the obsession with bevel free designs. Unless you have a suction cup for a hand that can grip the back, your fingers need something to hold on to that won't be an issue if its partly obstructed, SOME amount of bezel is a good thing.

2. No bezel means NO CASE THAT CAN WRAP AROUND, this is also a terrible design idea because it means dropping the phone is more dangerous.

3. Non-square screens like this are a TERRIBLE IDEA. They are a *PITA* to program for and place all sorts of odd constraints on what can effectively be displayed there. Even worse? Having a freaking HOLE in the middle of the screen for the speaker and front facing camera parts.

4) I'm also not sure why eliminating the physical home button is seen as ideal, unless they can incorporate the touch sensor into the screen its going to mean awkwardly sticking the sensor on the back of the phone (ala Samsung). Not to mention you'll have to dedicate that part of the screen to the home button anyway, so you might as well leave it there. Again, there are a LOT of engineering and useability reasons to stick with a physical hardware button (even if its no longer a mechanical switch one, ala the iPhone 7, MacBook Pro trackpad.

1) I don't know about you but I hold onto the sides of my iPhone. I'm not really sure how you are holding your phone so that you are grabbing onto the front bezels on the top and bottom of the iPhone...

2) There are still 4mm bezels all the way around on this schematic. This is (from what I can tell) the same as the size bezels currently are. So the same kind of cases (and holding patterns) that exist for current iPhone will work just as well on this iPhone.

3) Where are you seeing non-rectangular screens (I'm assuming that's what you mean, because no phone has square screens)? To me it looks like the the top area (with camera and speaker) is reserved for the status bar. I think 3rd party apps would still be developed as rectangular

4) What I hear is "It will be difficult to implement this well". Granted. But I think there is a ton of upside if Apple can do this well. The bezels are already about as small as they can be with the dedicated home button area. If Apple can move from a 4.7" display to a 5.8" display in the exact same physical dimensions... That's a huge win. I played around with a Galaxy s8 for a couple minutes, and they seemed to handled the home button issue pretty well (granted I hate the fingerprint scanner location). If Samsung can do it fine, I trust Apple to do a great job with this.

 

[The Game 161]

Looks very good to me..bezel less and more screen is going to be great

 

[nburwell]

It looks a bit funky, but I have been so used to the bezels since the introduction of the original iPhone. I'm all for this design though.

 

[sinsin07]

Personally, I found Palm's implementation of a 'soft' home button and gesture area under the screen on the PalmPre2 to be a more elegant, functionally sound, and possibly cost-effective approach.

Yeah, well unfortunately it was just you and about five other people.