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New Video Provides Extensive Hands-on Look at New 16-inch MacBook Pro [Updated]
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How thick is the battery in the new iMac?
That’s right. The M1 and the upcoming M2.
The Pro and Max chips are in another league where power consumption and heat doesn’t matter, only the wildest performance, both in CPU and -especially- in GPU.
If you want a powerful, fanless, power-efficient macbook, then you need to look at the M1 MacBooks or the upcoming 2022 MacBook (Air) with an M2 SoC, just like me. I’m not interested on this professional machines, they are way overpowered (and overpriced) for me.
The most powerful laptop ever made by Apple but the ugliest piece of sh** ever made by them too.
Well, let's see, it's uh … hey wait, there is no battery in the iMac! Oh, I see, that was your point ?
Also, how much room does the keyboard take up in the iMac body?
I actually respect Apple for designing this without trying to do the tapering lie. The problem I guess is that no other manufacturer will do the same so consumers that don't really understand that will assume these are chonks.
What's even more surprising is for the first time in ... forever(?) Apple are actually showing the rubber feet in product shots.
I adore this design. It looks like it took some hints from pre-unibody Pros, balancing the two perfectly. A 0.3kg difference really isn’t much. A better display, better camera (finally), ports, the return of MagSafe, better speakers…and best of all, good riddance to the Touch Bar. (And almost double the battery estimate of my model when I bought it…?!) Even tiny details: the rubber feet look taller and more cylindrical than dome-shaped, raising the computer a bit (obviously better thermally); I personally love the black-on-black keyboard; the lid looks easier to open (by way of the increased thickness…so it goes for true Pros!).
Apple silicon is most definitely allowing for a return to form.
Along with some other…changes. 🙈
Apple silicon is most definitely allowing for a return to form.
Along with some other…changes. 🙈
The complaints about the thickness are too much of an overreaction. Are any of you complaining actually gonna use this for its intended purpose?
Photo Editing - you are likely lugging around some expensive DSLR camera and lenses which are just as heavy or heavier.
Graphic design - You probably gonna keep it stationed on a desk most of time and occasionally bring it with you and I suspect people like you are not always gonna bring something like this to a coffee shop. You likely have a complimentary device like an iPad Air, MacBook Air or even just your iPhone for light use. So, even if you need to show in progress work to a client and make minor edits, you use your iPad. Heck, this is 2021, you share the project with the client using Adobe CCs roundtrip features. You don't even need to take a device with you anywhere. But you certainly will want those ports to connect up to high resolution monitors.
3D rendering - you don't mind this being a desktop replacement, when those fans kick in, you will be glad its thick enough for great air flow so you are not throttled and can keep working. You likely even have a Mac Pro or iMac too. Again, its likely gonna be stationary.
Audio production - As a DAW, this thing hardly ever leaves a studio anyway, but there is some portability if you take it to a club on Friday nights where you moonlight as a DJ. Hardly anything to complain about when you consider that its likely the only thing you are carrying with you, since if you are a DJ, the club already has its own turn tables and sound system. My sibling is a DJ and he lugs around an bulky old Toshiba (hopefully I can treat him to one of these) with heavy sound system equipment. A laptop weight is the least of his problems.
Video editing - again, this thing is gonna be sitting on a table or in an editing bay most of the time and for the rare times you take it out in the field, it will be mostly light work. No one is doing video production work in a wilderness or noisy city. You want to be in a quite space, no distractions, making sure you captured the audio, no distortions ability to think clearly.
Software development - its gonna be on a desk most of the time hooked up to three different displays, one in portrait the others in landscape - this thing ain't moving unless its an earth quake or you are going home for the holidays. Even then, you likely have complimentary devices as a developer that you use to augment it. So, if you are vacationing in Europe, you would take a MacBook Air to do light coding work while the family is out shopping. Heck, you will likely remote into the MacBook Pro M1 Max if you need to do anything major.
STEM - again, this thing is gonna be sitting in a lab on a desk most of the time.
Also, again, if you walk, take the train/bus to work, you put it your backpack, you are gonna have this on your desk for 8 hours of the day. The 2 hour commute you might carry this thing around for is not gonna break your back. Otherwise, there are other options you can choose from, but you are not gonna have your cake and eat it, too.
But, most of what I have already said so far are first world problems. Many folks carried around first gen Intel MacBook Pros and PowerBook G4 17 inch without complaint. I always remember sitting in a JFK terminal and seeing a guy with a broken leg killing time with a 17 in G4 in his laptop watching a movie. Never seemed to bother him.
What I hope is Apple just pushes the limit and reintroduce the 17 inch or even 18 or 19 inch version of the MacBook Pro.
Photo Editing - you are likely lugging around some expensive DSLR camera and lenses which are just as heavy or heavier.
Graphic design - You probably gonna keep it stationed on a desk most of time and occasionally bring it with you and I suspect people like you are not always gonna bring something like this to a coffee shop. You likely have a complimentary device like an iPad Air, MacBook Air or even just your iPhone for light use. So, even if you need to show in progress work to a client and make minor edits, you use your iPad. Heck, this is 2021, you share the project with the client using Adobe CCs roundtrip features. You don't even need to take a device with you anywhere. But you certainly will want those ports to connect up to high resolution monitors.
3D rendering - you don't mind this being a desktop replacement, when those fans kick in, you will be glad its thick enough for great air flow so you are not throttled and can keep working. You likely even have a Mac Pro or iMac too. Again, its likely gonna be stationary.
Audio production - As a DAW, this thing hardly ever leaves a studio anyway, but there is some portability if you take it to a club on Friday nights where you moonlight as a DJ. Hardly anything to complain about when you consider that its likely the only thing you are carrying with you, since if you are a DJ, the club already has its own turn tables and sound system. My sibling is a DJ and he lugs around an bulky old Toshiba (hopefully I can treat him to one of these) with heavy sound system equipment. A laptop weight is the least of his problems.
Video editing - again, this thing is gonna be sitting on a table or in an editing bay most of the time and for the rare times you take it out in the field, it will be mostly light work. No one is doing video production work in a wilderness or noisy city. You want to be in a quite space, no distractions, making sure you captured the audio, no distortions ability to think clearly.
Software development - its gonna be on a desk most of the time hooked up to three different displays, one in portrait the others in landscape - this thing ain't moving unless its an earth quake or you are going home for the holidays. Even then, you likely have complimentary devices as a developer that you use to augment it. So, if you are vacationing in Europe, you would take a MacBook Air to do light coding work while the family is out shopping. Heck, you will likely remote into the MacBook Pro M1 Max if you need to do anything major.
STEM - again, this thing is gonna be sitting in a lab on a desk most of the time.
Also, again, if you walk, take the train/bus to work, you put it your backpack, you are gonna have this on your desk for 8 hours of the day. The 2 hour commute you might carry this thing around for is not gonna break your back. Otherwise, there are other options you can choose from, but you are not gonna have your cake and eat it, too.
But, most of what I have already said so far are first world problems. Many folks carried around first gen Intel MacBook Pros and PowerBook G4 17 inch without complaint. I always remember sitting in a JFK terminal and seeing a guy with a broken leg killing time with a 17 in G4 in his laptop watching a movie. Never seemed to bother him.
What I hope is Apple just pushes the limit and reintroduce the 17 inch or even 18 or 19 inch version of the MacBook Pro.
Good one. I’m sure that @X--X guy still confused though. He seems to be able to think only in binary.
That's because the feet are WAAYYY higher than ever before, to improve airflow/cooling (I guess).
Wasn't that supposed to be less of a problem with Apple chips?
2021 16” MacBook Pro is only 0.02” thicker than 2019 16” MacBook Pro
The 13" M1 Pro is 1.56cm to the new 14" at 1.55cm. It's a negligible difference, but it's not thicker. It is heavier though, I ordered a 14" so it will be interesting to see how the extra half pound feels.
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How is that elegant again?
Because Apple would be saying it is silly.
If God made this out of rusty razor blades, some of us would be spinning the genius of regularly turning over our blood supply and being inspired to get timely tetanus shots.
And expressing LOVE and frenzied buying anticipation for the new accessory: Apple Steel Mesh gloves... especially designed for the Razorbook Pro. Only $999 per glove... which is only $199 per finger.
Now pass me that $20 handkerchief. I just cut myself again.
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2021 16” MacBook Pro is only 0.02” thicker than 2019 16” MacBook Pro
2013 15"
Weight: 4.46 pounds (2.02 kg)
2021 16"
Weight: 4.7 pounds (2.1 kg)
Difference is: .24 lbs or ~4 ounces, which is miniscule and negligible.
No different than the iPhone 13 model weight compared to some other models where the immaterial weight gain was ~1~2 ounces, an issue already discussed in other discussions.
Some PC owners had laptops that weighed ~10 pounds so that's putting things into perspective about the ridiculousness of the weight issue.
You get a lot of updated tech, albeit at a high cost, for something that weighs ~5 lbs.
Maybe exercising is in order.
As others said, if weight is an issue, then pass on it and stop complaining.
Weight: 4.46 pounds (2.02 kg)
2021 16"
Weight: 4.7 pounds (2.1 kg)
Difference is: .24 lbs or ~4 ounces, which is miniscule and negligible.
No different than the iPhone 13 model weight compared to some other models where the immaterial weight gain was ~1~2 ounces, an issue already discussed in other discussions.
Some PC owners had laptops that weighed ~10 pounds so that's putting things into perspective about the ridiculousness of the weight issue.
You get a lot of updated tech, albeit at a high cost, for something that weighs ~5 lbs.
Maybe exercising is in order.
As others said, if weight is an issue, then pass on it and stop complaining.
Internal specifications aside, these new MBPs feel to me like Apple has just moonwalked right over 5+ years of development back to where they started. I’m holding out for next year’s models with the rumoured CD-ROM…
I’m still rocking a Mid 2012 retina and have ordered the 16”
On paper it’s 100gram heavier and a little bit slimmer but every other measurement is similar.
I’m surprised though because on that video it looks chunky compared even to my 2012!
Is the body thinner with the lid being 4mm thick? I’m not getting the ratio body to screen if it’s thinner than the 2012…
I have to say from that Video it looks pretty dated by design if it was beige it would pass for a 90s machine.
I’m not sure if I like it until I get but there is no other option with this kind of power…
On paper it’s 100gram heavier and a little bit slimmer but every other measurement is similar.
I’m surprised though because on that video it looks chunky compared even to my 2012!
Is the body thinner with the lid being 4mm thick? I’m not getting the ratio body to screen if it’s thinner than the 2012…
I have to say from that Video it looks pretty dated by design if it was beige it would pass for a 90s machine.
I’m not sure if I like it until I get but there is no other option with this kind of power…
I do not know about upgrading, but I would not be surprised if the laptops were designed to use Face ID before the current supply chain issues forced a rethink. If Apple has to prioritise, it will almost always favour supplies to the phones.
Presumably the inevitable iFixIt teardown will reveal if there is a mysterious space around the camera.