News Corp and Apple's Eddy Cue to Launch 'The Daily' on February 2nd

[wirelessness]

That is what free speech is about

If you need to own an IOS device and have to PAY a subscription FEE it's not exactly FREE now is it??? This is not a NEWS source designed to liberate Americans (or any other Nation) from the typical consumer funded politically motivated news outlets.

People need to get real. Just because Apple stamps its logo on something does not make it the second coming of Steve Jobs!!! This might be a cool App with some interesting information...nothing more. Now if they could manage to get one of these in the hands of 3rd world country citizens who have nothing but State run news agencies that would be an Earth changing event. Until then, big freaking whoop.

 

[Frobozz]

Worst logo ever.

Worst logo, ever. Blech.

Posts linking to worse logo begin in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...

 

[ehoui]

I don't care what your politics are, but Apples collaboration with THE king of media monopolies in order to bring it to the ipad really just makes this smack of extreme irony:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8

I mean, which side of that screen are you on, Apple?

But pop news is pop news. Spread the fear, spread the blame, foster that hate.
Give me a peer-reviewed scientific journal of discovery and innovation any day.

You have the wrong expectations of Apple. They are not your knight in shining armor, protecting you from other opinions, no matter how much you hate hearing them.

 

[MattInOz]

as usual, MR readers missing the point

the news here is not that news corp is releasing an app, its that apple is releasing the means to do subscription based payments.

hopefully this means that with newspapers and magazines we can subscribe through itunes instead of maintaining accounts on various sites. push content downloads automatically etc.

Yes and hopefully like Apples other stores it'll start with the big boys then be opened up to any number of other outlets. By opening a market where News can make money again then we should see a return to more professional news, with a good delivery system.

That's why Rupurt is there to get his assets growing again he needs a market of people willing to pay for real news again. Either existing products or new entrants (some of which he may acquire at a later date). Instead of starting himself.

 

[neoelectronaut]

Here is the reality in a nutshell-- some people love and fight for the concept of "free speech" as long as the speech is of the kind which they they find agreeable. Any speech that digresses from their own world view is by its very nature violence inciting drivel. Moreover, anyone who disagrees with their "world view" leads an unexamined, pitiful life or is greedy beyond any possible Hollywood portrayal. In other words they may properly and justly call another "Hitler," but if someone calls someone they like "Hitler," it's dangerous.

Look, either you support the concept of the 1st Amendment and the idea of open political speech or you don't.

Case in Point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WQbNaXJ8Pw

 

[way2l84sanity]

I have to believe that this event will not just focus on this News Corp. app, but that it could give us a glimpse of what iTunes is going to look like in the near future.

I had not given thought to the possibility of a glimpse at itunes, but makes sense given that Eddy Cue will be there.

I will more then likely not buy "the daily" app.

What I do hope for is that with one of the biggest media moguls on board and apple poised to start allowing subscriptions through iTunes, is that this will spread to local newspapers, not just the bigger newspapers around the world. I would love to have my local newspaper on an iPad for $.99 a week or maybe a $45.00 for a yearly subscription.

I really hope apple will release an application that will allow newspaper companies to use their existing work flows to deliver the output straight to the app, without the need for creating the content twice.

I hope apple will never allow porn in the app store (there are some apps that borderline porn already), or with a magazine subscription.

 

[Rot'nApple]

Sooo, one would rather hear narrow-minded hypocritical right-wing propaganda? Not that they've ever let little things like, you know, facts, get in the way of their arguments. But hey, awesome, pay for an app that'll preach hate and lies, outsourcing good jobs, support the rich, etc.... it sounds fantastic!

As opposed to the narrow-minded hypocritical left-wing propaganda? Not that THEY'VE ever let little things like, you know, facts, get in the way of their arguments. But hey, awesome, you've been paying for all sorts of medium: print, radio, tv, cable for years and years that's preached hate and spread lies, outsourcing good jobs, support the rich, etc.... Sooo, it should sound fantastic because you should be used to it and well indoctrinated by now!

 

[Chupa Chupa]

If you need to own an IOS device and have to PAY a subscription FEE it's not exactly FREE now is it??? This is not a NEWS source designed to liberate Americans (or any other Nation) from the typical consumer funded politically motivated news outlets.

People need to get real. Just because Apple stamps its logo on something does not make it the second coming of Steve Jobs!!! This might be a cool App with some interesting information...nothing more. Now if they could manage to get one of these in the hands of 3rd world country citizens who have nothing but State run news agencies that would be an Earth changing event. Until then, big freaking whoop.

I'll nominate for the most nonsensical post of the day.

1) Free speech = the right to push one's political thoughts, agenda, whatever it might be -- right, left, bipartisan, nonpartisan. It has nothing to do w/ the cost of a publication that the ideas might be in -- even if you were trying to be "cute" with words.

2) Newspapers, magazines, etc. have a long history of not being free. Even the newspapers the Federalist Papers first appeared in were not free. But today people have the option to obtain news from the widest variety of places ever available, for fee, and for free, from accredited news organizations and from bedroom bloggers.

3) The iOS devices are part of society now just as the newspaper was in the 1600-1700s, magazines in the 1920s-current and the TV in the 1950s-current. To-date, however, there has not been a successful business model to distribute news on the iOS. That is what The Daily is trying to do. If it's successful others organizations will follow suit. Some will be right, others left, maybe even hard. That choice of ideas will be a good thing. You likely disagree b/c you probably believe the only news people should have is the feed you can personally censor to save them from their own idiocy of not agreeing with you 100% of the time.

 

[Rot'nApple]

I have a better option: I won't buy any more Apple products. I have owned at least 25 Apple computers since I bought my first 2c, and currently possess an iBook, a MacBook, and 2 MacBook Pros, plus several iPods, Time Capsule, etc., but that's the end of it. Business decisions are intrinsically political. I tried to overlook it when Jobs chose right wing, spy on American citizens, poor service as their iPhone provider, and vowed I would never buy one until they added a more progressive provider, so what do they do, they add the second most regressive phone company, Verizon, to the list. Now they get married to Rupert Murdoch of Faux News Bill O'Really and Glen cryboy Beck fame. Plus Jobs just made a large contribution to Rahm "*********g retards" Emmanuel notoriety, and Apple ranks last in worker safety among IT companies in China. http://www.ipe.org.cn/En/about/notice_de.aspx?id=9684
Come to think of it, why would Apple outsource all its manufacturing jobs to foreign countries? (Don't bother to explain, the answer is obvious, greed.) All buying decisions are political. My wife and I drive German cars because we don't buy Japanese products on account of the whale and dolphin slaughters, nor American cars because of outsourcing, and, until recently, shoddy workmanship. There is more to being an ethical citizen of the world than playing games on your iPads. Sorry, Apple, you just lost one of your better customers, but I'm sure you'll find a way to more than make it up with more regressive business alliances, and hordes of obliging customers who don't give a rat's posterior about the ethical implications of their consumerism.

But past German slaughters of six million people, just fine!

"better customer"... debatable.

 

[splashnader]

I had not given thought to the possibility of a glimpse at itunes, but makes sense given that Eddy Cue will be there.

I will more then likely not buy "the daily" app.

What I do hope for is that with one of the biggest media moguls on board and apple poised to start allowing subscriptions through iTunes, is that this will spread to local newspapers, not just the bigger newspapers around the world. I would love to have my local newspaper on an iPad for $.99 a week or maybe a $45.00 for a yearly subscription.

I really hope apple will release an application that will allow newspaper companies to use their existing work flows to deliver the output straight to the app, without the need for creating the content twice.

I hope apple will never allow porn in the app store (there are some apps that borderline porn already), or with a magazine subscription.

That is exactly what I am hoping for as well. I do most of my reading/subscribing to magazines and news/sports journals these days. I use Zinio for most of these subscriptions. I really hope that iTunes can become more of a marketplace for newspapers, magazines, etc. I like the idea of daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly subscriptions being handled and debited through iTunes. I really hope iTunes goes in this direction.

 

[Richard1028]

So what happened to all the talk about The Daily being 99 cents per day?

Looks like it's only going to be a buck each week like previously rumored. Quite doable and sign me up. This should squelch the cheap-arsed Murdoch haters since they don't pay for anything anyway.

Also, MR needs to proof their rumors for typos.

 

[robwormald]

I hope apple will never allow porn in the app store (there are some apps that borderline porn already), or with a magazine subscription.

i agree with the rest of your post, but not this part?

why shouldn't playboy magazine be allowed to put all of their back catalogs on iPad?

it's a big business. you can still buy porn at the corner store. or get it free in safari. you also don't have to purchase it, so keep your morals out of free enterprise!

 

[emteebristol]

Murdoch: a threat to democracy?

Murdoch: a threat to democracy? Part 2: The US
http://politicaltarot.com/2010/11/test/

 

[Jimmy Humbug]

I couldn't agree with you more Balin 64 but please let's be clear--there is no false equivalency here--the people whining the loudest are those on the right. Just read this thread from start to finish and the 1st comments daring almost wanting a response about Murdoch was the Republican/ Tea Party ones.

The posters on this thread--"Full of win", "news sinker"--they seem to have NO problem espousing their rhetoric on other articles and forums but the minute a liberal voice is heard they object. They pull the typical anti-democratic republican victimhood and start crying about how people should just stop complaining. As Balin said though--the sad truth is that Apple was a liberal arts brand LOOOOOOONG before the right caught on. I welcome you aboard but to claim that those of us who dislike Murdoch need to stop whining--I think you need to realize--U are in OUR house. Not the other way around.

One thing I'd like to point out that "Full of Win" and his ridiculous tea baggin Avatar completely misrepresented (I would never insinuate he lied) was the notion that Jobs ONLY deals with Rupert Murdoch via Mossberg when speaking to the media.

Sir, that is a LOAD OF INCREDIBLE BS and you should know it.

Since he seems to know for a certainty about Apple's manufacturing partners--something I am 100% confident he does not--any cursory view of Jobs' "interviews" over the years will find that he has spoken to several parties including --David Pogue (NYT--oh no!! They are liberal) and a host of others around product launch time. It's crazy but Apple--a publicly traded company goes for reach and while we can easily discuss Fox's viewership's loose grip on facts--no amount of disdain can hide that they have a large audience ripe for the selling to.

That said, I am a fan of this process with Murdoch. The man is vile and his views are abusive, his followers are religious about his propaganda--but he knows how to make money.

Let's hope this brings about great technical strides for other media outlets.

That this is a public forum. I have been around here for around nine years now, and have definitely seen the membership move closer to center as Apple's products have become more mainstream. Back in the day, it was just us hippie artists and our Macs getting dumped on by the bullying Windows guys.

Now that the term "App" is mainstream, the dynamics have changed. Yes, fellow artists: get used to the fact that Apple has inked a deal with Bill O'Reilly's employer. Voice your dissatisfaction by not buying the app: not by bashing it here.

We have always been ourselves when we stay above that fray... let's keep it that way.

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[franswa za]

I have a better option: I won't buy any more Apple products. I have owned at least 25 Apple computers since I bought my first 2c, and currently possess an iBook, a MacBook, and 2 MacBook Pros, plus several iPods, Time Capsule, etc., but that's the end of it. Business decisions are intrinsically political. I tried to overlook it when Jobs chose right wing, spy on American citizens, poor service as their iPhone provider, and vowed I would never buy one until they added a more progressive provider, so what do they do, they add the second most regressive phone company, Verizon, to the list. Now they get married to Rupert Murdoch of Faux News Bill O'Really and Glen cryboy Beck fame. Plus Jobs just made a large contribution to Rahm "*********g retards" Emmanuel notoriety, and Apple ranks last in worker safety among IT companies in China. http://www.ipe.org.cn/En/about/notice_de.aspx?id=9684
Come to think of it, why would Apple outsource all its manufacturing jobs to foreign countries? (Don't bother to explain, the answer is obvious, greed.) All buying decisions are political. My wife and I drive German cars because we don't buy Japanese products on account of the whale and dolphin slaughters, nor American cars because of outsourcing, and, until recently, shoddy workmanship. There is more to being an ethical citizen of the world than playing games on your iPads. Sorry, Apple, you just lost one of your better customers, but I'm sure you'll find a way to more than make it up with more regressive business alliances, and hordes of obliging customers who don't give a rat's posterior about the ethical implications of their consumerism.

ola papi, take a few chill pills....... and NO kool-aid

u will b ok..........

 

[franswa za]

i agree with the rest of your post, but not this part?

why shouldn't playboy magazine be allowed to put all of their back catalogs on iPad?

it's a big business. you can still buy porn at the corner store. or get it free in safari. you also don't have to purchase it, so keep your morals out of free enterprise!

eish..... i'd hate to see murdock naked, already..... anywhere..... EEEEEEEEK

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

So to fix it, we should pay Americans wages so low that it's more profitable for the worker to commit suicide? Maybe we should stop buying things so cheaply.

Or we can stop letting Unions blackmail employers. People who drive cars off the boats at the dock and park them make 75 an hour. How much does a Valet parking attendant make minimum wage?

 

[Full of Win]

Or we can stop letting Unions blackmail employers. People who drive cars off the boats at the dock and park them make 75 an hour. How much does a Valet parking attendant make minimum wage?

We can help! By refusing to buy Union made items, and letting the makers know what we are doing, we can encourage the use of non-union workshops.

While we sometimes have to use Union made (or shall I say poorly made) items, the less we do, the better our country is.

 

[Cavepainter]

But past German slaughters of six million people, just fine!

"better customer"... debatable.

Ouch!!! Excellent point. Looks like we just found out who flunked their History class.....

 

[Gasu E.]

If you have to ask that, just keep watching and reading YOUR news.
The rest of us will find a greater scope of facts and evidence without the taint of government-media propaganda.

What flavor Kool-Aid are you drinking?

 

[ehoui]

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[ericinboston]

What is up with all the news coverage of this Daily topic on MR? It's been mentioned at least 10 times in the past few weeks.

Sheeeeeez. Give it a rest, MR. Don't fill the MR website with junk just to make the site look busy. Quality news...not quantity.

 

[Aatos.1]

All this over some words appearing on that slab of aluminum & glass you're holding.

I'm really going to enjoy my second gen iPad without any subscriptions, Heh!

Cheers Fellow Jousters ...

via iP4

 

[way2l84sanity]

"why shouldn't playboy magazine be allowed to put all of their back catalogs on iPad?"

"it's a big business. you can still buy porn at the corner store. or get it free in safari. you also don't have to purchase it, so keep your morals out of free enterprise!"

I agree you can buy material objectifying women many places. It is a big business, you can get it for free online etc.. I can list a lot of reasons, statistics, etc. about the realities of porn and the objectification of women and how this is bad for both men and women. I would be happy to discuss this with anyone who would want information however, I don't think this is the forum for that discussion. Apple makes a lot of money making great tech products and I don't believe they need to look at this industry to expand their bottom line. My personal belief is that I do not want to see Apple get into the business of promoting objectification of women.

 

[louis Fashion]

"The Daily" sounds a lot like "The Daily Show"... are they related?

If only!