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Next iPhone: A4 Processor, 256MB RAM, N90 PRO2, Translated Impressions
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screen size = disappointing
ram = disappointing
case design = disappointing
may have to go with the htc evo
ram = disappointing
case design = disappointing
may have to go with the htc evo
i don't think it is anything to do with the amount of RAM available, as Safari is very buggy on the iPhone/iPad, as text heavy or image heavy pages just shut down Safari, and i can have 6/7 tabs open if they are basic websites, just think that a Safari "5" needs to be released for both Mac OS X and OS iPhone/iPad removing loads of bugs and memory leaks, in addition the bugginess if you are in and out of Wi-Fi Hotspots and 3G is unbelievable
It shuts down because there isn't any memory left for those image heavy sites..
The new design
Funny how the design of the new iPhones absolutely screams Nokia from 2008-2009. Not saying it's a bad thing, the reason Nokia became the biggest phone maker in the world largely lies in their amazing design, which only lately has become so patchy.
Funny how the design of the new iPhones absolutely screams Nokia from 2008-2009. Not saying it's a bad thing, the reason Nokia became the biggest phone maker in the world largely lies in their amazing design, which only lately has become so patchy.
STILL no confirmation on screen resolution?
Would someone give this Vietnamese fellow a bloody message and a decent camera to take a snap?
Would someone give this Vietnamese fellow a bloody message and a decent camera to take a snap?
256MB of RAM might be enough for 4.0 to run okay-ish (although I'm seriously doubting that, especially with multi-tasking coming). However people, bear in mind that most people (you know, there are other countries too, other than the US, and most of those countries have 24 month contracts instead of 12 month upgrade eligibility) have to use this phone for two years. That means at least two new OS revisions.
Do you seriously think that 256MB RAM will cut it for OS 6.0, or even OS 5.0? I think not. < I'm afraid the 4G/HD will be a slow turd, just like my 3G is right now, next year.
I'd happily pay $50-$100 more, just for the damn thing to have 512MB.
Do you seriously think that 256MB RAM will cut it for OS 6.0, or even OS 5.0? I think not. < I'm afraid the 4G/HD will be a slow turd, just like my 3G is right now, next year.
I'd happily pay $50-$100 more, just for the damn thing to have 512MB.
I'm hopping on the RAM bandwagon, only 256 in this day and age is terrible. 512 should have been an absolute no-brainer. The iPad and this new iPhone could do wonders with 512MB as applications and games are getting bigger and more memory intensive. Remember how 128 used to be "fine" when the iPhone first came out? Now it can't even handle 3.0 without lagging up and 4.0 support will be mediocre (for the 3G that has the same specs).
The EVO kills this thing on paper and $199 price. But it's the OS that really matters and probably the only thing saving this phone from being an embarrassment.
The EVO kills this thing on paper and $199 price. But it's the OS that really matters and probably the only thing saving this phone from being an embarrassment.
Absolutely true. Here in Austria, we don't have stuff like "pay x EUR to get a nice and new iPhone just after one year into your contract".
When you're in a contract, you have that phone for the contract-timeperiod (mostly 2 years), only afterwards you can get a new phone with subsidy.
So another iteration of the iPhone with 256MB for the next two years? That's not "spec-whoring", that's just thinking ahead for 5.0, and that worries me.
That's my guess. They kept the 3G and dropped the price to $99 to reach more customers.
With this new one will they keep the 3GS (16GB) and sell that for $99? Or, will there be a $99 base model 4th gen with 256MB RAM and 16GB storage. (I was a bit suprised to see these leaked photos showing a "16GB" model) I was thinking/hoping any new iPhone would be 32GB to start.
My guess:
$99 256MB / 16GB
$199 256MB / 32GB
$299 256MB? / 64GB
All with the same body.
I actually have trouble going over 2 open tabs on my 3GS iPhone. It can be a pain because I use public transit and regularly pass through no service areas, so I like to "preload" websites (like MacRumors threads) to read ahead of time, maybe with 1-2 backgrounded apps like Engadget or Spotify. Nothing too crazy (haven't tried more than 4 tabs max) yet Safari has crashed numerous times. 256MB made all the difference for streaming music apps via Backgrounder but it doesn't seem to be enough for the above scenario. So yes, I'm one who'd appreciate more RAM and see the difference in my daily use.
How YOU PEOPLE KNOW it's the final product without confirmation is beyond me.
Btw: How is assuming this is a prototype (which is the most logical thought) LYING and stating myself as an expert???
The only similarity that Android and iPhone 4.0 have is the save state feature. Google is not using API's to do specific features, like Apple is doing.
Apparently Engadget's insiders have confirmed PRO2 = Early prototype.
Which jives with what I've been saying about the "screwless" version. The fact that pics of it were leaked in February backup that this is in fact an earlier model.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/new-iphone-in-vietnam-spotted-running-iphone-os-4/
Still, a source has confirmed to us that the markings "N90 PRO2" indicate an older prototype N90 (the Apple codename for the new iPhone), which refers to "Working Prototype 2" and might possibly be easier to enable than the newer, lock tight model Gizmodo obtained.
Edit: Interesting reading http://tumblr.frijole.info/post/531571428/apple-prototypes
(In order of age...based on what I've read)
The Vietnamese unit is a PRO2 - Early Prototype
The TwitPic unit was an EVT
The Gizmodo unit was a DVT
We have yet to see an actual PVT so....who knows what could change?
Edit 2: http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/gizmodo_prototype_iphone
According to several sources (of mine) familiar with the project, “N90” is Apple’s codename for the fourth-generation GSM iPhone, slated for release this June or July. “DVT” stands for “design verification test”, an Apple production milestone. The DVT milestone is very late in the game; based on this, I now believe that this unit very closely, if not exactly, resembles what Apple plans to release.
Not enough ram
I have the iPhone 3gs and with 256 mb of ram is not enough. When you have mutiple web pages (4 to 5) open they reload when going back and forth. Another problem is when you close out web pages there can be a major deley. So if anybody thinks that 256 mb ram is enough they are wrong.
I have the iPhone 3gs and with 256 mb of ram is not enough. When you have mutiple web pages (4 to 5) open they reload when going back and forth. Another problem is when you close out web pages there can be a major deley. So if anybody thinks that 256 mb ram is enough they are wrong.
No they're not. Android Apps run over a virtual machine for Java apps that are interpreted with JIT coming in 2.2. That's why you need more RAM and processing horsepower to compete against iPhone OS.
Apple's multi-tasking is highly managed and optimized with no runtime virtualization. It's also easier to write iPhone OS multi-threaded code as the frameworks do much of the work for you and allow the OS to efficiently manage all the processes and threads.
And that test consisted in leaking pictures of the phone and evaluating people's reactions. Brilliant.
Yup, and it was also in their plan to legally persue Engadget and break down the door of Jason Chen.
NOT AN INTENTIONAL LEAK PEOPLE! How hard is this to understand?
Welcome to progress. It can't be helped and more so is encouraged. Otherwise we'd still have a newton. Apple appears to be on a two year core processor micro-architecture upgrade cycle. First the iPhone and 3G used the same micro-architecture, the 3GS uses an Cortex A8 as it looks like the 2010 iPhone will. It appears that a SoC using the Cortex A9 will be in the 2011 time frame.
There is no reason going forward to believe that the 2011 iPhone needs to come out in June of that year. Competitive pressures as well as improvements of yields at smaller process sizes will drive that.